Why Does Western Medicine Make It Like Pregnancy Is A Disease??
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I dont really see the point in the down syndrome test. maybe if they did it early enough to terminate then I would see the point, but they dont.
About ultrasounds... I got one done at 17 weeks and I am scheduled to get another one done on the 8th of next month. I am not 100% sure, but I believe I will be getting yet another one at 8 months. Its done to make sure the baby is growing properly. To check the size and to see if hes in proportion.
About ultrasounds... I got one done at 17 weeks and I am scheduled to get another one done on the 8th of next month. I am not 100% sure, but I believe I will be getting yet another one at 8 months. Its done to make sure the baby is growing properly. To check the size and to see if hes in proportion.
Now this is a different story entirely. I did not say to take any drug, pill, or supposed vitamin that your doctor wants without question. NOWAY. I was referring to tests........normally done through fluid samples of some form. (I feel pretty safe giving a little blood or urine 
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I would never recommend going in blind to any type of test. I did NOT consent to an amnio. To me, the risk was higher than reward. You gotta do the leg work and not just swallow what the doc says hook line and sinker.
For me personally, I have a rule about taking any kind of med that hasn't been out for some time, just don't feel safe for the same reasons you listed in your statement Renee.............I am not a science guinea pig. Others may feel differently, but I have seen too many things approved only to be yanked off the market when they damage hearts, caused brain tumors, lung failure..........you name it.
) I would never recommend going in blind to any type of test. I did NOT consent to an amnio. To me, the risk was higher than reward. You gotta do the leg work and not just swallow what the doc says hook line and sinker.
For me personally, I have a rule about taking any kind of med that hasn't been out for some time, just don't feel safe for the same reasons you listed in your statement Renee.............I am not a science guinea pig. Others may feel differently, but I have seen too many things approved only to be yanked off the market when they damage hearts, caused brain tumors, lung failure..........you name it.
That's the point, Coop. We've been conditioned to go along with whatever the doctor orders without question. And too many of them get their panties in a wad when questioned and won't explain their reasons - too often because they don't think the patient should question those reasons. We aren't thought of as intelligent enough to make informed decisions - so they refuse to inform us. We forget - THEY are supposed to be working for US.
I know for myself, that if I ask my doc a question and he got upity about it, he would have attitude coming back like a boomerang been there done that.
And if he/she answers perfectly nice, and a seemingly good answer, I STILL use the internet, and whatever other source may be necessary to make sure his answer matches up with what's out there.
In this day and age where people have the world litterally at their finger tips........there is NO EXCUSE to say "I didn't know" google takes only as long as you do to type it in.
You should have seen all the research going on when I was told I needed a hysterechtomy (sp?) due to cancer activity...........I searched for everything from other treatments to the best form of anesthesia, LOL........in the end, I agreed with his diagnosis without seeking a second opinion.
been there done that.And if he/she answers perfectly nice, and a seemingly good answer, I STILL use the internet, and whatever other source may be necessary to make sure his answer matches up with what's out there.
In this day and age where people have the world litterally at their finger tips........there is NO EXCUSE to say "I didn't know" google takes only as long as you do to type it in.
You should have seen all the research going on when I was told I needed a hysterechtomy (sp?) due to cancer activity...........I searched for everything from other treatments to the best form of anesthesia, LOL........in the end, I agreed with his diagnosis without seeking a second opinion.
I think this is the reason for the large amount of tests out there that are offered for everyone. There will always be that one person missed that will be an issue. So, the doctors have to cover themselves somehow and have backup. They won't be able to turn back the clocks if something happens that they were able to know about through tests. And like mentioned, you do have the ability to refuse treatment and tests. No one ever enforces anything that you do not want. You sign a waiver and the test is not done. Something happens that they could have been forewarned against, and you can't put the blame on them.
I think with anything, you really need to have a doctor that you feel comfortable with period. There are ones out there for profit. The hospital only follows procedure and does what the doctor orders. If they aren't willing to listen to you and your beliefs, move on to someone who is. You need one that cares more about you than their pocket book. Most insurance companies have a larger list than one.
I think with anything, you really need to have a doctor that you feel comfortable with period. There are ones out there for profit. The hospital only follows procedure and does what the doctor orders. If they aren't willing to listen to you and your beliefs, move on to someone who is. You need one that cares more about you than their pocket book. Most insurance companies have a larger list than one.
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To just comment on the fact that no test is manditory......when I was searching for a doctor to take me on when I get pregnant, I had every doctor I talked to refuse me because I didn't want a billion tests. Everytime that I told them I wanted to have a natural pregnancy with as little interference as possible they told me no they couldn't take me on and that if I didn't want these tests then I shouldn't be having children because they are manditory.
I think that is one of the biggest reasons I am a little PO'd about this whole western medicine thing.
I was talking to a midwife about ultrasounds etc., and she said that she will only do an ultrasound if there is a need for it. For example if there was a lot of weight gain, or some other reason to suspect that the baby was larger than normal or if there was some other indicating factor that something could be wrong.
I think that is one of the biggest reasons I am a little PO'd about this whole western medicine thing.
I was talking to a midwife about ultrasounds etc., and she said that she will only do an ultrasound if there is a need for it. For example if there was a lot of weight gain, or some other reason to suspect that the baby was larger than normal or if there was some other indicating factor that something could be wrong.
I guess I am very lucky with the team of Dr's I have been seeing (I say team because it is rotational so I make a point to see each Dr at least once because any one of them could be on call the night I go lol) they are wonderful..... I only had one ultrasound that was their choice (like I said I had one at 11 weeks but that was set up by us for us because it was free at a training facility so nurses can get their needed amount of training ultrasounds done and they were WONDERFUL)Other than that I had one at 18 weeks. WE asked if we were supposed to have another ultrasound done in the third trimester and the Dr said no..... but with my past history (I lost a child once before) if we decide we would like one for peace of mind they will schedule one for us. So we only had ONE ultrasound scheduled through the Dr.
As for the amnio..... they talked to us about that during our very first visit and told us that there are a great many risks and to really read up about it before making a decision.... after we said no we didn't want that test I never heard about it again.
Other than that I give a urine sample every appt (which I usually have to go by that point anyway so might as well do it in a cup lol) and they listen to the heart beat every appt.... which is SO cool. I have never been pressured to do any kind of test and it has been stressed that optional tests are MY choice. I am lucky
But then I look at others that I know that are pregnant.... no wonder Dr's do so many tests.... my one friend coughs and she's on the phone with her Dr asking what she should do lol. I have only called the Dr once and that was because there was blood in my vomit during my first trimester. Our friends are spaz's when it comes to being pregnant.... they worry about everything and WANT the latest tests on everything. But for me..... some of those tests didn't actually PROVE anything and it was more dangerous for the baby and myself to actually have the test done.
As for the amnio..... they talked to us about that during our very first visit and told us that there are a great many risks and to really read up about it before making a decision.... after we said no we didn't want that test I never heard about it again.
Other than that I give a urine sample every appt (which I usually have to go by that point anyway so might as well do it in a cup lol) and they listen to the heart beat every appt.... which is SO cool. I have never been pressured to do any kind of test and it has been stressed that optional tests are MY choice. I am lucky
But then I look at others that I know that are pregnant.... no wonder Dr's do so many tests.... my one friend coughs and she's on the phone with her Dr asking what she should do lol. I have only called the Dr once and that was because there was blood in my vomit during my first trimester. Our friends are spaz's when it comes to being pregnant.... they worry about everything and WANT the latest tests on everything. But for me..... some of those tests didn't actually PROVE anything and it was more dangerous for the baby and myself to actually have the test done.
Obviously there are so many different needs to be met, and different philosophies out there. In the end, it is YOUR body, YOUR baby--and yes, educating yourself as to what test is being recommended, ask questions, use some common sense, etc. I think there can not be one philosophy on this. Open your eyes, ears, and minds....don't do just because the dr. said to--but don't not do just because you don't trust western medicine!
My first pregnancy I had pre-eclampsia (very serious condition)--was put on bedrest, and they wanted me to stay at the hospital. I still had at least a month before delivery. AT that point, I worked in hospitals--knew myself enough to know that would be more anxiety producing than if I was at home on bedrest. I literally battled with my dr.--told him if he was keeping me in the hospital--it better be in the pysch. ward, because that's where I would end up! He let me go home--worked out far better. Even the dr. agreed!
Bottom line--inform yourselves! speak up for yourselves, but don't discount that the dr. may actually have some education and knowledge too!
My first pregnancy I had pre-eclampsia (very serious condition)--was put on bedrest, and they wanted me to stay at the hospital. I still had at least a month before delivery. AT that point, I worked in hospitals--knew myself enough to know that would be more anxiety producing than if I was at home on bedrest. I literally battled with my dr.--told him if he was keeping me in the hospital--it better be in the pysch. ward, because that's where I would end up! He let me go home--worked out far better. Even the dr. agreed!
Bottom line--inform yourselves! speak up for yourselves, but don't discount that the dr. may actually have some education and knowledge too!
Being pregnant at 39, I am thankful for any test that checks up on my baby's health. Although, I would not have taken an amniocentisis if my quad test came back unfavorable. I'm not afraid of having a baby with Downs. But, I will take as many ultrasounds that my doctor is willing to give me. I had problems getting pregnant and those problems make me a little nervous. She can take blood as much as she wants to as well. As long as the tests are not potentially harmful to my son, I'm fine with 'better safe than sorry'.
I never realized how different the USA handles pregnancies compared to Europe. The C-section rate here is so much higher than the rest of the world, and hospitals try to get you in and out as fast as they can. Even the way that you give birth is very unnatural, and one of the reasons as to why labors are so hard and painful.
I guess I always just assumed that doctors did everything because it was necessary...
I guess I always just assumed that doctors did everything because it was necessary...
I have never read that book, and I am in no way doubting what you are saying Jessie.........but I for one was hounding the Doctor to go home as soon as the baby was out & cleaned up Same with my Hysterectomy........as soon as I was coherent, my first words to the doc was, "when can I go home" LOL
I cannot STAND being in the hospital........I don't sleep, I have no appetite to eat, and I am just on edge the whole time. It is not FEAR of hospitals, just a restlessness that doesn't leave until I am home.
I think that many are the same way, and every mom that I know of was anxious to get out of there too.
Same with my Hysterectomy........as soon as I was coherent, my first words to the doc was, "when can I go home" LOLI cannot STAND being in the hospital........I don't sleep, I have no appetite to eat, and I am just on edge the whole time. It is not FEAR of hospitals, just a restlessness that doesn't leave until I am home.
I think that many are the same way, and every mom that I know of was anxious to get out of there too.