Why Does Western Medicine Make It Like Pregnancy Is A Disease??
Ok this suggests to me that it is not in fact the Dr or the midwife's job to do the massaging but YET again.... up to the mother and father to do their research 
It states that it should be started a month before delivery.... I doubt that starting during the delivery if you haven't been doing so for a while before hand would really prevent it from happening as much as we have been lead to believe.
Jaclyn, no one said Keeping the baby in but um.... is that an option? hehe I may have to partake of that option hehe
It states that it should be started a month before delivery.... I doubt that starting during the delivery if you haven't been doing so for a while before hand would really prevent it from happening as much as we have been lead to believe. Jaclyn, no one said Keeping the baby in but um.... is that an option?
hehe I may have to partake of that option hehe
That sounds like a repeat of my FIRST child........except I wasn't let to rip. As I stated, I was already cut end to end..........his head made it out, and then his shoulders were another 2 inches bigger. I tried to continue to push him out, but it was no use......he was wedged. They were not rushing me, I had NO pain meds (other than the numbing of the vagina to cut).......no Epideral, not even an IV fluid.........it was completely natural birth other than the episiotomy.I do NOT want to even think about what it would have been like without my episiotomy.........**shudders**
For me the healing time, and minor discomfort afterwards were nearly nothing, not even as bad as a yeast infection really.
I am not able (nor do I want) to have more children.......but trust me, I would want another episiotomy if I could/did. And I will recommend it to my daughters in a heartbeat.
I am glad we all have choices, and I hope we always will.
For me the healing time, and minor discomfort afterwards were nearly nothing, not even as bad as a yeast infection really.
I am not able (nor do I want) to have more children.......but trust me, I would want another episiotomy if I could/did. And I will recommend it to my daughters in a heartbeat.
I am glad we all have choices, and I hope we always will.
Some research on epidurals
All About Epidurals
by Sarah Buckley, Brisbane, Australia.
Nov 1998
Epidural pain relief is an increasingly popular choice for Australian women in the labour ward. Up to one-third of all birthing women have an epidural,(1) and it is especially common amongst women having their first babies.(2) For women giving birth by caesarean section, epidurals are certainly a great alternative to general anaesthetic, allowing women to see their baby being born, and to hold and breastfeed at an early stage: however their use as a part of a normal vaginal birth is more questionable(3)
There are several types of epidural used in Australian hospitals. In a conventional epidural, a dose of local anaesthetic is injected through the lower back into the epidural space, around the spinal cord. This numbs the nerves which bring sensation from the uterus and birth canal. Unfortunately, the local anaesthetic also numbs the nerves which control the pelvic muscles and legs, so with this type of epidural, a woman usually cannot move her legs and, unless the epidural has worn off, cannot push her baby out, in the second stage of labour.
More recent forms of epidurals use a lower dose of local anaesthetic, usually combined with an opiate, such as pethidine, morphine or fentanyl (sublimaze). With this low-dose or combination epidural, most women can move around with support; however the chance of a woman being able to give birth without forceps is still low(4). Another form of epidural, popular in the US, is the CSE, or combined spinal-epiudural, where a one-off dose of opiate, with or without local anaesthetic, is injected into the spinal space, very close to the end of the spinal cord. This gives pain relief for round 2 hours, and if further pain relief is needed, it is given as an epidural. These forms of "walking epidural" may seem advantageous, but being attached to a CTG machine to monitor the baby, and hooked up to a drip which is also a requirement when an epidural is in place, can make walking impossible.
Many women have a good experience with epidurals. Sometimes the relief from pain can allow a woman to rest and relax sufficiently to go on and have a good birth experience. However deciding to use an epidural for pain relief can also lead to a "cascade of intervention", where an otherwise normal birth becomes highly medicalised, and a woman feels that she loses her control and autonomy. Often the decision to accept an epidural is made without an awareness of these, and other, significant risks to both mother and baby.
Although the drugs used in epidurals are injected around the spinal cord, substantial amounts enter the mothers blood stream, and pass through the placenta into the baby's circulation. Most of the side effects of epidurals are due to these "systemic", or whole-body effects.
One of the most commonly recognised side effects is a drop in blood pressure. Up to one woman in eight will have this side effect to some degree(5), and for this reason, extra fluids are usually given through a drip to prevent problems. A drop in the mother's blood pressure will affect how much of her blood is pumped to the placenta, and can lead to less oxygen being available to the baby.
An epidural will often slow a woman's labour, and she is three times more likely to be given an oxytocin drip to speed things up(6, 7). The second stage of labour is particularly slowed, leading to a three times increased chance of forceps(8). Women having their first baby are particularly affected; choosing an epidural can reduce their chance of a normal delivery to less than 50%(9).
This slowing of labour is at least partly related to the effect of the epidural on a woman's pelvic floor muscles. These muscles guide the baby's head so that it enters the birth canal in the best position. When these muscles are not working, dystocia, or poor progress, may result, leading to the need for high forceps to turn the baby, or a caesarean section. Having an epidural doubles a woman's chance of having a caesarean section for dystocia(10).
Continued next post
All About Epidurals
by Sarah Buckley, Brisbane, Australia.
Nov 1998
Epidural pain relief is an increasingly popular choice for Australian women in the labour ward. Up to one-third of all birthing women have an epidural,(1) and it is especially common amongst women having their first babies.(2) For women giving birth by caesarean section, epidurals are certainly a great alternative to general anaesthetic, allowing women to see their baby being born, and to hold and breastfeed at an early stage: however their use as a part of a normal vaginal birth is more questionable(3)
There are several types of epidural used in Australian hospitals. In a conventional epidural, a dose of local anaesthetic is injected through the lower back into the epidural space, around the spinal cord. This numbs the nerves which bring sensation from the uterus and birth canal. Unfortunately, the local anaesthetic also numbs the nerves which control the pelvic muscles and legs, so with this type of epidural, a woman usually cannot move her legs and, unless the epidural has worn off, cannot push her baby out, in the second stage of labour.
More recent forms of epidurals use a lower dose of local anaesthetic, usually combined with an opiate, such as pethidine, morphine or fentanyl (sublimaze). With this low-dose or combination epidural, most women can move around with support; however the chance of a woman being able to give birth without forceps is still low(4). Another form of epidural, popular in the US, is the CSE, or combined spinal-epiudural, where a one-off dose of opiate, with or without local anaesthetic, is injected into the spinal space, very close to the end of the spinal cord. This gives pain relief for round 2 hours, and if further pain relief is needed, it is given as an epidural. These forms of "walking epidural" may seem advantageous, but being attached to a CTG machine to monitor the baby, and hooked up to a drip which is also a requirement when an epidural is in place, can make walking impossible.
Many women have a good experience with epidurals. Sometimes the relief from pain can allow a woman to rest and relax sufficiently to go on and have a good birth experience. However deciding to use an epidural for pain relief can also lead to a "cascade of intervention", where an otherwise normal birth becomes highly medicalised, and a woman feels that she loses her control and autonomy. Often the decision to accept an epidural is made without an awareness of these, and other, significant risks to both mother and baby.
Although the drugs used in epidurals are injected around the spinal cord, substantial amounts enter the mothers blood stream, and pass through the placenta into the baby's circulation. Most of the side effects of epidurals are due to these "systemic", or whole-body effects.
One of the most commonly recognised side effects is a drop in blood pressure. Up to one woman in eight will have this side effect to some degree(5), and for this reason, extra fluids are usually given through a drip to prevent problems. A drop in the mother's blood pressure will affect how much of her blood is pumped to the placenta, and can lead to less oxygen being available to the baby.
An epidural will often slow a woman's labour, and she is three times more likely to be given an oxytocin drip to speed things up(6, 7). The second stage of labour is particularly slowed, leading to a three times increased chance of forceps(8). Women having their first baby are particularly affected; choosing an epidural can reduce their chance of a normal delivery to less than 50%(9).
This slowing of labour is at least partly related to the effect of the epidural on a woman's pelvic floor muscles. These muscles guide the baby's head so that it enters the birth canal in the best position. When these muscles are not working, dystocia, or poor progress, may result, leading to the need for high forceps to turn the baby, or a caesarean section. Having an epidural doubles a woman's chance of having a caesarean section for dystocia(10).
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When forceps are used, or if there is a concern that the second stage is too long, a woman may be given an episiotomy, where the perineum, or tissues between the vaginal entrance and anus, are cut to enlarge the outlet and hurry the birth. Stitches are needed and it may be painful to sit until the episiotomy has healed, in 2 to 4 weeks.
As well as numbing the uterus, an epidural will numb the bladder, and a woman may not be able to pass urine, in which case she will be catheterised. This involves a tube being passed up from the urethrer to drain the bladder, which can feel uncomfortable or embarrassing.
Other side effects of epidurals vary a little depending on the particular drugs used. Pruritis, or generalized itching of the skin, is common when opiate drugs are given. It may be more or less intense and affects at least 1/4 of women(11 12): morphine or diamorphine are most likely to cause this. Morphine also causes oral herpes in 15% of women(13).
All opiate drugs can cause nausea and vomiting, although this is less likely with an epidural around 30%(14) than when these drugs are given into the muscle or bloodstream, where larger doses are needed. Up to 1/3 of women with an epidural will experience shivering(15), which is related to effects on the bodies heat-regulating system.
When an epidural has been in place for more than 5 hours, a woman's body temperature may begin to rise(16). This will lead to an increase in both her own and her baby's heart rate, which is detectable on the CTG monitor. Fetal tachycardia, or fast heart rate can be a sign of distress, and the elevated temperature can also be a sign of infection such as chorioamnionitis, which affects the uterus and baby. This can lead to such interventions as caesarean section for possible distress or infection, or, at the least, investigations of the baby after birth such as blood and spinal fluid samples, and several days of separation, observation, and possibly antibiotics, until the results are available(17).
Less common side effects for a woman having an epidural are; accidental puncture of the dura, or spinal cord coverings, which can cause a prolonged and sometimes severe headache (1 in 100)(18) ongoing numb patches, which usually clear after 3 months(1 in 550)(19); and weakness and loss of sensation in the areas affected by the epidural, (4-18 in 10,000) also usually resolving by 3 months(20).
More serious but rare side effects include permanent nerve damage; convulsions and heart and breathing difficulties (1 in 20,000)(21) and death attributable to epidural. (1 in 200,000)(22) When opiates are used, a woman may experience difficulty in breathing which comes on 6 to 12 hours later.(23)
There is a noticeable lack of research and information about the effects of epidurals on babies.(24) Drugs used in epidurals can reach levels at least as high as those in the mother(25), and because of the baby's immature liver, these drugs take a long time- sometimes days- to be cleared from the baby's body.(26) Although findings are not consistent, possible problems, such as rapid breathing in the first few hours(27) and vulnerability to low blood sugar(28) suggest that these drugs have measurable effects on the newborn baby.
As well as these effects, babies can suffer from the interventions associated with epidural use; for example babies born by caesarean section have a higher risk of breathing difficulties.(29) When monitoring of the heart rate by CTG is difficult, babies may have a small electrode screwed into their scalp, which may not only be unpleasant, but occasionally can lead to infection.
There are also suggestions that babies born after epidurals may have difficulties with breastfeeding(30,31) which may be a drug effect, or may relate to more subtle changes. Studies suggest that epidurals interfere with the release of oxytocin(32) which, as well as causing the let-down effect in breastfeeding, encourages bonding between a mother and her young(33).
Epidural research, much of it conducted by the anaesthetists who administer epidurals, has unfortunately focussed more on the pro's and con's of different drug combinations than on possible serious side-effects(34). There have been, for example, no rigorous studies showing whether epidurals affect the successful establishment of breastfeeding(35).
Several studies have found subtle but definite changes in the behaviour of newborn babies after epidural(36,37,38) with one study showing that behavioural abnormalities persisted for at least six weeks(39). Other studies have shown that, after an epidural, mothers spent less time with their newborn babies(40), and described their babies at one month as more difficult to care for.(41)
While an epidural is certainly the most effective form of pain relief available, it is worth considering that ultimate satisfaction with the experience of giving birth may not be related to lack of pain. In fact, a UK survey which asked about satisfaction a year after the birth found that despite having the lowest self-rating for pain in labour (29 points out of 100), women who had given birth with an epidural were the most likely to be dissatisfied with their experience a year later.(42)
Some of this dissatisfaction was linked to long labours and forceps births, both of which may be a consequence of having an epidural. Women who had no pain relief reported the most pain (70 points out of 100) but had high rates of satisfaction.
Pain in childbirth is real, but epidural pain relief may not be the best solution. Talk about other options with your care-givers and friends. With good support, and the use of movement, breathing and sound, most women can give themselves, and their babies, the gift of a birth without drugs.
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1 Perinatal Statistics, Queensland 1996. Queensland Health 1998. At thepresent time, national figures for epidural use are not collected.
2 Dr Steve Chester, Head of Anaesthetics Dept, Royal Women's Hospital, Melbourne. Around 45% of primiparous women at RWH have an epidural. Personal Communication
3 World Health Organisation. Care in Normal birth: A Practical Guide..P 16. WHO 1996
4 Russell R, Reynolds F. Epidural infusion of low-dose bupivicaine and opioid in labour. Does reducing the motor block increase the spontaneous delivery rate? Anaesthesia 1996; 51(5): 266-273
5 Webb RJ, Kantor GS. Obstetrical epidural anaesthesia in a rural Canadian hospital. Can J Anaesth 1991; 39:390-393
6 Ramin SM, Gambling DR, Lucas MJ et al. Randomized trial of epidural versus intravenous analgesia during labor. Obstet Gynecol 1995; 86(5): 783-789
7 Howell CJ. Epidural vs non-epidural analgesia in labour. [Revised 6 May 1994] In: Keirse MJNG, Renfrew MJ, Neilson JP, Crowther C. (eds)
Pregnancy and Childbirth Module. In: The Cochrane Pregnancy and Childbirth Database. (database on disc and CD-ROM ) The Cochrane Collaboration; Issue
2, Oxford: Update Software 1995 (Available from BMJ publishing group, London)
8 Thorp JA, Hu DH, Albin RM, et al. The effect of intrapartum epidural analgesia on nulliparous labor; a randomized, controlled, prospective trial. Am J Obstet Gynecol 1993; 169(4): 851-858
9 Paterson CM, Saunders NSG, Wadsworth J. The characteristics of the second stage of labour in 25069 singleton deliveries in the North West Thames Health Region. 1988. Br J Obstet Gynaecol 1992;99:377-380
10 Thorp JA, Meyer BA, Cohen GR et al. Epidural analgesia in labor and cesarean section for dystocia. Obstet Gynecol Surv 1994; 49(5): 362-369
11Lirzin JD, Jacquintot P, Dailland P, et al. Controlled trial of
extradural bupivicaine with fentanyl, morphine or placebo for pain relief in labour. Br J Anaesth 1989; 62: 641-644
12Caldwell LE, Rosen MA, Shnider SM. Subarachnoid morphine and fentanyl for labor analgesia. Efficacy and adverse effects. Reg Anesth 1994;19:2-8
13 John Paull, Faculty of Anaesthetists, Melbourne. Quoted in: "The perfect epidural for labour is proving elusive" New Zealand Doctor. 21 Oct 1991
14 as above
15 Buggy D, Gardiner J. The space blanket and shivering during extradural analgesia in labour. Acta-Anaesthesiol-Scand 1995; 39(4): 551-553
16 Camman WR, Hortvet LA, Hughes N, et al. Maternal temperature regulation
during extradural analgesia for labour. Br J Anaesth 1991;67:565-568.
17 Kennell J, Klaus M, McGrath S, et al. Continuous emotional support during labor in a US hospital. JAMA 1991;265:2197-220
18 Stride PC, Cooper GM. Dural taps revisited: a 20 year survey from Birmingham Maternity Hospital. Anaesthesia 1993; 48(3):247-255
19Epidurals for pain relief in labour: Informed choice leaflet for women. MIDIRS and the NHS centre for Reviews and dissemination 1997.
20 Epidural pain relief during labour; Informed choice for professionals. MIDIRS and the NHS centre for Reviews and dissemination 1997.
21 see 13
22see 13
23 Rawal N, Arner S et al Ventilatory effects of extradural diamorphine.Br J Anaesthesia 1982;54:239
24 Howell CJ, Chalmers I. A review of prospectively controlled comparisons of epidural with non-epidural forms of pain relief during labour. Int J Obstet Anaesth 1992;1:93-110
25Fernando R, Bonello E et al. Placental and maternal plasma concentrations of fentanyl and bupivicaine after ambulatory combined spinal epidural (CSE) analgesia during labour. Int J Obstet Anaesth 1995;4:178-179
26 Caldwell J, Wakile LA, Notarianni LJ et al. Maternal and neonatal disposition of pethidine in child birth- a study using quantitative gas chromatography-mass spectrometry. Lif Sci 1978;22:589-96
27 Bratteby LE, Andersson L, Swanstrom S. Effect of obstetrical regional analgesia on the change in respiratory frequency in the newborn. Br J Anaesth 1979; 51:41S-45S
for more information go to
http://www.compleatmother.com/epidural.htm
When forceps are used, or if there is a concern that the second stage is too long, a woman may be given an episiotomy, where the perineum, or tissues between the vaginal entrance and anus, are cut to enlarge the outlet and hurry the birth. Stitches are needed and it may be painful to sit until the episiotomy has healed, in 2 to 4 weeks.
As well as numbing the uterus, an epidural will numb the bladder, and a woman may not be able to pass urine, in which case she will be catheterised. This involves a tube being passed up from the urethrer to drain the bladder, which can feel uncomfortable or embarrassing.
Other side effects of epidurals vary a little depending on the particular drugs used. Pruritis, or generalized itching of the skin, is common when opiate drugs are given. It may be more or less intense and affects at least 1/4 of women(11 12): morphine or diamorphine are most likely to cause this. Morphine also causes oral herpes in 15% of women(13).
All opiate drugs can cause nausea and vomiting, although this is less likely with an epidural around 30%(14) than when these drugs are given into the muscle or bloodstream, where larger doses are needed. Up to 1/3 of women with an epidural will experience shivering(15), which is related to effects on the bodies heat-regulating system.
When an epidural has been in place for more than 5 hours, a woman's body temperature may begin to rise(16). This will lead to an increase in both her own and her baby's heart rate, which is detectable on the CTG monitor. Fetal tachycardia, or fast heart rate can be a sign of distress, and the elevated temperature can also be a sign of infection such as chorioamnionitis, which affects the uterus and baby. This can lead to such interventions as caesarean section for possible distress or infection, or, at the least, investigations of the baby after birth such as blood and spinal fluid samples, and several days of separation, observation, and possibly antibiotics, until the results are available(17).
Less common side effects for a woman having an epidural are; accidental puncture of the dura, or spinal cord coverings, which can cause a prolonged and sometimes severe headache (1 in 100)(18) ongoing numb patches, which usually clear after 3 months(1 in 550)(19); and weakness and loss of sensation in the areas affected by the epidural, (4-18 in 10,000) also usually resolving by 3 months(20).
More serious but rare side effects include permanent nerve damage; convulsions and heart and breathing difficulties (1 in 20,000)(21) and death attributable to epidural. (1 in 200,000)(22) When opiates are used, a woman may experience difficulty in breathing which comes on 6 to 12 hours later.(23)
There is a noticeable lack of research and information about the effects of epidurals on babies.(24) Drugs used in epidurals can reach levels at least as high as those in the mother(25), and because of the baby's immature liver, these drugs take a long time- sometimes days- to be cleared from the baby's body.(26) Although findings are not consistent, possible problems, such as rapid breathing in the first few hours(27) and vulnerability to low blood sugar(28) suggest that these drugs have measurable effects on the newborn baby.
As well as these effects, babies can suffer from the interventions associated with epidural use; for example babies born by caesarean section have a higher risk of breathing difficulties.(29) When monitoring of the heart rate by CTG is difficult, babies may have a small electrode screwed into their scalp, which may not only be unpleasant, but occasionally can lead to infection.
There are also suggestions that babies born after epidurals may have difficulties with breastfeeding(30,31) which may be a drug effect, or may relate to more subtle changes. Studies suggest that epidurals interfere with the release of oxytocin(32) which, as well as causing the let-down effect in breastfeeding, encourages bonding between a mother and her young(33).
Epidural research, much of it conducted by the anaesthetists who administer epidurals, has unfortunately focussed more on the pro's and con's of different drug combinations than on possible serious side-effects(34). There have been, for example, no rigorous studies showing whether epidurals affect the successful establishment of breastfeeding(35).
Several studies have found subtle but definite changes in the behaviour of newborn babies after epidural(36,37,38) with one study showing that behavioural abnormalities persisted for at least six weeks(39). Other studies have shown that, after an epidural, mothers spent less time with their newborn babies(40), and described their babies at one month as more difficult to care for.(41)
While an epidural is certainly the most effective form of pain relief available, it is worth considering that ultimate satisfaction with the experience of giving birth may not be related to lack of pain. In fact, a UK survey which asked about satisfaction a year after the birth found that despite having the lowest self-rating for pain in labour (29 points out of 100), women who had given birth with an epidural were the most likely to be dissatisfied with their experience a year later.(42)
Some of this dissatisfaction was linked to long labours and forceps births, both of which may be a consequence of having an epidural. Women who had no pain relief reported the most pain (70 points out of 100) but had high rates of satisfaction.
Pain in childbirth is real, but epidural pain relief may not be the best solution. Talk about other options with your care-givers and friends. With good support, and the use of movement, breathing and sound, most women can give themselves, and their babies, the gift of a birth without drugs.
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1 Perinatal Statistics, Queensland 1996. Queensland Health 1998. At thepresent time, national figures for epidural use are not collected.
2 Dr Steve Chester, Head of Anaesthetics Dept, Royal Women's Hospital, Melbourne. Around 45% of primiparous women at RWH have an epidural. Personal Communication
3 World Health Organisation. Care in Normal birth: A Practical Guide..P 16. WHO 1996
4 Russell R, Reynolds F. Epidural infusion of low-dose bupivicaine and opioid in labour. Does reducing the motor block increase the spontaneous delivery rate? Anaesthesia 1996; 51(5): 266-273
5 Webb RJ, Kantor GS. Obstetrical epidural anaesthesia in a rural Canadian hospital. Can J Anaesth 1991; 39:390-393
6 Ramin SM, Gambling DR, Lucas MJ et al. Randomized trial of epidural versus intravenous analgesia during labor. Obstet Gynecol 1995; 86(5): 783-789
7 Howell CJ. Epidural vs non-epidural analgesia in labour. [Revised 6 May 1994] In: Keirse MJNG, Renfrew MJ, Neilson JP, Crowther C. (eds)
Pregnancy and Childbirth Module. In: The Cochrane Pregnancy and Childbirth Database. (database on disc and CD-ROM ) The Cochrane Collaboration; Issue
2, Oxford: Update Software 1995 (Available from BMJ publishing group, London)
8 Thorp JA, Hu DH, Albin RM, et al. The effect of intrapartum epidural analgesia on nulliparous labor; a randomized, controlled, prospective trial. Am J Obstet Gynecol 1993; 169(4): 851-858
9 Paterson CM, Saunders NSG, Wadsworth J. The characteristics of the second stage of labour in 25069 singleton deliveries in the North West Thames Health Region. 1988. Br J Obstet Gynaecol 1992;99:377-380
10 Thorp JA, Meyer BA, Cohen GR et al. Epidural analgesia in labor and cesarean section for dystocia. Obstet Gynecol Surv 1994; 49(5): 362-369
11Lirzin JD, Jacquintot P, Dailland P, et al. Controlled trial of
extradural bupivicaine with fentanyl, morphine or placebo for pain relief in labour. Br J Anaesth 1989; 62: 641-644
12Caldwell LE, Rosen MA, Shnider SM. Subarachnoid morphine and fentanyl for labor analgesia. Efficacy and adverse effects. Reg Anesth 1994;19:2-8
13 John Paull, Faculty of Anaesthetists, Melbourne. Quoted in: "The perfect epidural for labour is proving elusive" New Zealand Doctor. 21 Oct 1991
14 as above
15 Buggy D, Gardiner J. The space blanket and shivering during extradural analgesia in labour. Acta-Anaesthesiol-Scand 1995; 39(4): 551-553
16 Camman WR, Hortvet LA, Hughes N, et al. Maternal temperature regulation
during extradural analgesia for labour. Br J Anaesth 1991;67:565-568.
17 Kennell J, Klaus M, McGrath S, et al. Continuous emotional support during labor in a US hospital. JAMA 1991;265:2197-220
18 Stride PC, Cooper GM. Dural taps revisited: a 20 year survey from Birmingham Maternity Hospital. Anaesthesia 1993; 48(3):247-255
19Epidurals for pain relief in labour: Informed choice leaflet for women. MIDIRS and the NHS centre for Reviews and dissemination 1997.
20 Epidural pain relief during labour; Informed choice for professionals. MIDIRS and the NHS centre for Reviews and dissemination 1997.
21 see 13
22see 13
23 Rawal N, Arner S et al Ventilatory effects of extradural diamorphine.Br J Anaesthesia 1982;54:239
24 Howell CJ, Chalmers I. A review of prospectively controlled comparisons of epidural with non-epidural forms of pain relief during labour. Int J Obstet Anaesth 1992;1:93-110
25Fernando R, Bonello E et al. Placental and maternal plasma concentrations of fentanyl and bupivicaine after ambulatory combined spinal epidural (CSE) analgesia during labour. Int J Obstet Anaesth 1995;4:178-179
26 Caldwell J, Wakile LA, Notarianni LJ et al. Maternal and neonatal disposition of pethidine in child birth- a study using quantitative gas chromatography-mass spectrometry. Lif Sci 1978;22:589-96
27 Bratteby LE, Andersson L, Swanstrom S. Effect of obstetrical regional analgesia on the change in respiratory frequency in the newborn. Br J Anaesth 1979; 51:41S-45S
for more information go to
http://www.compleatmother.com/epidural.htm
One lady at work shared her birth stories with me when she noticed my belly. She said the her first, she had natural. It really hurt, but went just fine and after the baby was born she didn't have any discomfort and recovered perfectly well.
Second baby, they gave her an epidural and she said it was horrible. It hurt less during the actual labor, but the labor went longer and was more complicated because she didn't know when she was supposed to push. She also said that for about 5-6 weeks after the birth, she had horrible lower back pain from the epidural site.
Her verdict, don't have an epidural. It will hurt more during labor, but overall you will be in pain for a much shorter period of time. Advice I plan to follow since I am allergic to pretty much every pain med, and I don't want to be hallucinating during the birth of my child.
Second baby, they gave her an epidural and she said it was horrible. It hurt less during the actual labor, but the labor went longer and was more complicated because she didn't know when she was supposed to push. She also said that for about 5-6 weeks after the birth, she had horrible lower back pain from the epidural site.
Her verdict, don't have an epidural. It will hurt more during labor, but overall you will be in pain for a much shorter period of time. Advice I plan to follow since I am allergic to pretty much every pain med, and I don't want to be hallucinating during the birth of my child.
LOL Now see I have heard totally the opposite.
My mom had an epidural with me and I came right out with minimal effort on her part lol and I was almost 10 lbs. So I really think it varies person to person.
When my step mom had my little brother her labour was HORRIBLE. She wanted the epidural but couldn't get it. She was in labour for a LONG LONG LONG time and had a very difficult delivery.
A friend of mine has three kids and her Longest and most difficult delivery was the one child she did not have epidural for.
So I think it depends on each person.
My mom had an epidural with me and I came right out with minimal effort on her part lol and I was almost 10 lbs. So I really think it varies person to person.
When my step mom had my little brother her labour was HORRIBLE. She wanted the epidural but couldn't get it. She was in labour for a LONG LONG LONG time and had a very difficult delivery.
A friend of mine has three kids and her Longest and most difficult delivery was the one child she did not have epidural for.
So I think it depends on each person.