why cant you feed cooked meat?

Fran27

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You can, it's not going to be harmless to them at all as long as there are no bones, and that you don't give some fat meat.

The article you posted annoyed me, like most articles about raw actually. They always conveniently forget that there ARE good dry foods out there. But no, it seems that every dry food is bad according to them. Which is really misinformed and not objective.

I'm not saying that raw isn't better, I'm sure it is, but when you factor cost+time, it's very often not worth it if you have good dry food available.

Just my opinion of course.
 

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If I serve meat or chicken cooked, I like to simmer so there's broth to add to the kibble and the meat. I don't like to serve the raw chicken as most of the time it hasn't been frozen .
 
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I'm feeding my puppy chicken breast and rice plus kibbles, is that a good diet for her? What brand of commercial dog food is good?

tks,
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you can feed cooked meat just fine. there is no problem with it at all.

just like in any other areas in life, there's a handful of extremists who will tell you that nothing but their way is the right way to do something, and if you don't follow those rules, you are doomed.

there are many holistic veterinarians who also support home cooked diets, and not every dog on this planet is going to do well on a raw diet. in some cases where a pet has severe health issues, feeding a raw diet is not a good idea at all.
 

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just keep in mind, if you feed a fairly large amount of cooked meat, you need to give a calcium supplement to balance out the extra phosphorus your dog is getting.

the calcium/phosphorus ratio in a dog's diet should stay within 1:1 and 2:1, too much unbalanced phosphorus over extended periods of time can cause kidney damage.

for people who want to supplement kibble with some fresh meat (cooked or raw), don't exceed about 3 parts kibble to 1 part meat. generally it's better to prepare a "kibble topping" that's balanced in itself, that way there won't be any problems. you can just make up a batch and freeze it portioned in snack-sized ziplock baggies.
 

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I feed my dog homemade meals

Hi. I recently stopped feeding my dog commercial food. He's a healthy and happy 12-year-old Shepherd mix that has been eating some "people food" his whole life. The last 2 brands of dog food he was on was Royan Canin and then Nutro. I started researching dog food and was disgusted by what I found.

I thought about the raw food diet; but at his age, I don't want to completely switch his food. Plus, homemade, healthy quality food is MUCH better than the dog food he's used to.

I am buying bulk quantities of meat and veggies. I'll make a sort of stew with a close to half-half ratio of meat and veggies (chopped small). I stick half in the fridge and freeze the other. I add a Nupro supplement and warm water right before serving. Cody LOVES his new diet. At first he'd gobble it down quickly. He has started to take his time and enjoy the "gravy." I also noticed he seems happier, more energetic and affectionate. His coat is silky and soft too.

Anyway, if anyone is concerned with the raw food diet, s/he should consider homemade food. After all, it's a zillion times better than the commercial dog food out there.
 
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My sister is interested in feeding her dogs and cats homemade food or homemade kibble. To get her started I ordered her two books on homemade pet food :) and she has our veterinarian's cookbook already. Hopefully she'll be bale to get them onto their new diet soon.
 

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Ascout, don't forget that you need some extra calcium in that food, if you do not feed any bones. most foods are much higher in phosphorus than in calcium, and dogs need a minimum ratio of 1:1 calcium to phosphorus.

even just grinding up dried egg shell and adding half a teaspoon per pound of meat would be a great step already.

Boxer*Mom - you don't really believe that that is actually what diamond puts into their chicken soup line of foods, right? :D
 

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I have a simple diet. Few marrow bones a day, a half a chicken boiled or some kind meat. A pound or two. Two or so cups of Innova Evo.

working out great.
 
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Very similar to what the grrrrls eat, Orion, although their chicken is raw leg quarters. They also beg or steal fruits and vegetables on a regular basis. Shiva's bad about finding the last tomato and eating it :rolleyes: And of course, they supplement their own diets with "fast food" (groundhogs, squirrels, rabbits, voles and the occasional barn rat) :eek:
 

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Thanks, Mordy. Actually, Cody gets calcium from the broccoli (I use veggie mix w/ a lot of broccoli) and the Nupro supplement. Also, I also give him plain yogurt at least once a week. I don't give him any bones except for the rare small, soft ones on rib tips.

Cody now eats healthier than me. I'm really satisfied with the results after only 2 weeks. It's really not that much work, and I like knowing that he is eating fresh, preservative-free food. Plus, seeing him so happy and healthy at age 12 makes me happy.

BTW, everyone has such cute pics. How do I add one?
 
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you know i feed merrick... i have meatty kibble... peas. carrots... fuji apples... bananas...
 
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Am feeding raw atm, but she dun seem to be full with the amount recommended by the breeder. She says that that is quite enough food for a puppy. She is rather thin atm ços she is recovering from a bad bout of Giardia and I want to "fatten" her up a little. I do not know if I should also feed her some cooked chicken breast with her raw. I tried apples & grapes but she just plays around with them like a ball. Maybe someone here could help me.
Tks.
 

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Mordy said:
Boxer*Mom - you don't really believe that that is actually what diamond puts into their chicken soup line of foods, right? :D
:D This is;
Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, oatmeal, potatoes, cracked pearled barley, millet, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), duck, salmon, egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, kelp, carrots, peas, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
 

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