White House dog PWNs rude reporter

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Not to put a damper on your thread, but I personally don't think it's funny. A dog shouldn't bite just because somebody put a hand near it's face. And the reporter didn't just shove his hand in---the asked permission first. I feel bad for the reporter.
 

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I'm always more inclined to feel bad for the dog. Plus, the dog walker should have known that Barney didn't want to be pet. It wasn't totally the reporter's fault, but Barney was not acting like a dog who wanted to be pet. Sometimes you just gotta let walking dogs walk... or something.
 

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I dont think it was funny per say but I do agree the reporter was at fault, he just shoves his hand right at the dog, Barney did freeze before he nipped, Im sure if his bangs in front of his eyes werent so long we'd have seen a whale eye perhaps.

Dogs are dogs they can bite, they will bite, there space should be respected there not just adorable little munchkins.

IMO there is nothing wrong with that dog for acting the way he did in that situation.

BUT the dog walker should have either asked the reporter not to pet him or to perhaps offer a treat first, if the dog didnt go for the treat, probably a tip off he was stressed and the walker could have mentioned not to pet him.
 

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I'll admit, it did amuse me. In the video you can clearly hear them say after the fact, "He's been snapping at everyone all day". If the dog walker knew Barney was snapping at people, he should have never allowed the reporter to try and pet him.
 
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Any fool could see that dog was saying loud and clear DO NOT TOUCH ME. Then the reporter practically lunges out towards the dog.

Stupid people on both sides of the issue. I don't blame the dog at all.
 

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I'll admit, it did amuse me. In the video you can clearly hear them say after the fact, "He's been snapping at everyone all day". If the dog walker knew Barney was snapping at people, he should have never allowed the reporter to try and pet him.
There is not a funny thing about it. If this is a fact that the dog had been snapping at everyone all day he should have been removed to a quiet area and allowed a calm enviorment. It is totally the person in charge of the dog's fault. ANd it could have cost Barney his life.:mad::(
 

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Just because it's obvious to US that the dog didn't want to be petted doesn't mean it's obvious to the reporter.

We're dog people. We're an entire forum full of dog lovers. Of course we know how to read a dog's mood. The reporter may have never even owned a dog in his life. How is it his fault if he misses signals that are "obvious" to us? He asked the DOG'S CARETAKER if it was all right to pet the dog. He relied on that person's professional judgment. And it doesn't make him stupid.

If you took your broken-down car to a mechanic, and the mechanic grossly misdiagnosed it, is it YOUR fault? You were out of your depth, so you relied on a professional's assesment. Just because the fix is obvious to car afficionados doesn't mean it should have been obvious to you.
 

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Just because it's obvious to US that the dog didn't want to be petted doesn't mean it's obvious to the reporter.

We're dog people. We're an entire forum full of dog lovers. Of course we know how to read a dog's mood. The reporter may have never even owned a dog in his life. How is it his fault if he misses signals that are "obvious" to us? He asked the DOG'S CARETAKER if it was all right to pet the dog. He relied on that person's professional judgment. And it doesn't make him stupid.

If you took your broken-down car to a mechanic, and the mechanic grossly misdiagnosed it, is it YOUR fault? You were out of your depth, so you relied on a professional's assesment. Just because the fix is obvious to car afficionados doesn't mean it should have been obvious to you.

Agreed.
 

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Not to put a damper on your thread, but I personally don't think it's funny. A dog shouldn't bite just because somebody put a hand near it's face. And the reporter didn't just shove his hand in---the asked permission first.
Ditto. Dog bits aren't funny.

Plus, the dog walker should have known that Barney didn't want to be pet. It wasn't totally the reporter's fault, but Barney was not acting like a dog who wanted to be pet.
Also agreed. It's a combination of the dog walker and the reporter's fault this happened, but if he had been snapping at people all day long I'd say it's mostly the dog walker's fault. What a jerk. Or an idiot, as the case may be.
 

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I think my internal bias against reporters probably increased the Schaudenruede factor for me. I definitely think the dog walker bears a lot of the responsibility (Also, what's with the slip lead?)

But the way they were badgering him to look this way and blah blah blah, and then him biting the guy, it amused me. This is a DOG people, not a dolly. And Barney certainly reminded them of that.
 

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what gempress said. i never would have reached out for that dog, and most people here would have recognized and respected what the dog was saying, but i don't expect everybody to be as dog-savvy as we are. they know to look for a growl or a snarl, but not necessarily for a tense body or a whale eye (which couldn't be seen anyway).

if barney was that uncomfortable in that situation, his dog walker should have recognized it, and he should have been removed from it long before it got to the point where he felt threatened enough to bite somebody.
 
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You know, I'm a dog person, and I didn't see where that dog was clearly broadcasting his desire to be left alone. He did not move away, and in fact moved a step toward the people. When my dog is standing like that, presenting her side to me and looking away, she is asking for me to scrach her butt. ETA: I do agree that the reporter didn't approach the dog correctly, but how many people know how to do that, really? That dog was not in a postition where his only option was to bite, IMO. He was just being a jerk.
 

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Just because it's obvious to US that the dog didn't want to be petted doesn't mean it's obvious to the reporter.

We're dog people. We're an entire forum full of dog lovers. Of course we know how to read a dog's mood. The reporter may have never even owned a dog in his life. How is it his fault if he misses signals that are "obvious" to us? He asked the DOG'S CARETAKER if it was all right to pet the dog. He relied on that person's professional judgment. And it doesn't make him stupid.

If you took your broken-down car to a mechanic, and the mechanic grossly misdiagnosed it, is it YOUR fault? You were out of your depth, so you relied on a professional's assesment. Just because the fix is obvious to car afficionados doesn't mean it should have been obvious to you.
^That. :hail:
 

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Just because it's obvious to US that the dog didn't want to be petted doesn't mean it's obvious to the reporter.

We're dog people. We're an entire forum full of dog lovers. Of course we know how to read a dog's mood. The reporter may have never even owned a dog in his life. How is it his fault if he misses signals that are "obvious" to us? He asked the DOG'S CARETAKER if it was all right to pet the dog. He relied on that person's professional judgment. And it doesn't make him stupid.

If you took your broken-down car to a mechanic, and the mechanic grossly misdiagnosed it, is it YOUR fault? You were out of your depth, so you relied on a professional's assesment. Just because the fix is obvious to car afficionados doesn't mean it should have been obvious to you.
Exactly. I'm not sure why anyone would expect the general public to be in tune to dog body language. Shame on the dog walker for not seeing the signs and protecting the dog and the reporter.
 

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You know, I'm a dog person, and I didn't see where that dog was clearly broadcasting his desire to be left alone. He did not move away, and in fact moved a step toward the people. When my dog is standing like that, presenting her side to me and looking away, she is asking for me to scrach her butt. ETA: I do agree that the reporter didn't approach the dog correctly, but how many people know how to do that, really? That dog was not in a postition where his only option was to bite, IMO. He was just being a jerk.
I didn't see any clear body language from the dog either . . . and I knew a bite was coming because the video was labeled as such.
 

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You know, I'm a dog person, and I didn't see where that dog was clearly broadcasting his desire to be left alone. He did not move away, and in fact moved a step toward the people. When my dog is standing like that, presenting her side to me and looking away, she is asking for me to scrach her butt. ETA: I do agree that the reporter didn't approach the dog correctly, but how many people know how to do that, really? That dog was not in a postition where his only option was to bite, IMO. He was just being a jerk.
I also agree that the reporter didn't approach properly, but he DID ask permission from the dog's caretaker.

Barney has been a "jerk" repeatedly according to reports, and quite honestly if he belonged to any joe schmo, they would have already been sued IMO............that or the dog ordered to be put down for aggressive behavior.

I don't find anything funny about the incident at all, and I don't find the dog blameless either. He had other choices than to strike. True enough that he should be trained and handled by someone who KNOWS what they are doing...........not like there is a lack of funds or people who would be willing to help just for the notoriety of it all.
 

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