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sparks19

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Amen!

I don't need to depend on anyone.. but I love my husband dearly, he completes me. <3

YES that is exactly what I am trying to say. I am very independant but I couldn't imagine not coming home to my husband at night. He really is the other half of my heart.
 

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YES that is exactly what I am trying to say. I am very independant but I couldn't imagine not coming home to my husband at night. He really is the other half of my heart.
He's like.. he's like a security blanket. I come home and he wraps his arms around me and I'm safe from everything. :)

*sob* that's enough mushiness for me! :lol-sign:
 

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Your last sentence really sums up marriage. it is commiting your life, you are no longer living for yourself. You are living for both of you. Life is just not real life without that person. That person MAKES you whole, Makes you who you are. There is no better confidence in the world than knowing you have someone that will love you unconditionally no matter how terrible you look, no matter what embarrassing things you do, will tell you how beautiful you look even when they are holding your hair when you are throwing up LOL.

I wish you luck although I don't think you need it :D
yeah, im really glad my bf is the only one i have been with. hehe, what you said is making me all warm and fuzzy, im so excited to see my bf this weekend :D :D
 
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Ok so you couldnt see the sarcasm in some of that :rolleyes: ....I dont NEED anyone to support me, never have, never will... I will always have people to lean on and people to love me regardless....so dont sit there and tell me I will have no one



It doesnt matter....



What does beauty have to do with it.....?? trust me you were NEVER like me...


*So dont judge me when you really have no idea what goes on in MY private life*

Wow, you sound like an older version of me. I have agreed with everything you have said so far. :D
 

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I dont NEED anyone to support me, never have, never will...
Perhaps the most famous words of the most miserable people ever. Jess, never ever, ever say never.

We are not made to be alone. God bless you. I pray that whatever has made you so angry and negative passes you by as quickly as possible.
 

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Perhaps the most famous words of the most miserable people ever. Jess, never ever, ever say never.

We are not made to be alone. God bless you. I pray that whatever has made you so angry and negative passes you by as quickly as possible.
Thanks Puck at least you were civil about it...
 

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yeah, im really glad my bf is the only one i have been with. hehe, what you said is making me all warm and fuzzy, im so excited to see my bf this weekend :D :D
LOL well I thought I was just feeling warm cause it's hot in here hehe seems I am just feeling warm and fuzzy as well :blush:
 
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LOL your response tells me everything I need to know. You are hostile. You can deny it all you want but that "it doesn't matter" attitude says it all. You have no real response for me so you just blow it off. YES you will have family and friends but trust me it is not the same. Your post was angry and every post I have seen from you lately has been the same way.

I am not saying have someone to support you financially but eventually you will go through things in your life that you NEED support for. It will happen. No one can make it through their entire life without ANYONE. I had the same attitude that "marriage is just a piece of paper and it's all about sex" It is about SO much more than that.

In fact, I think you need someone now. In the past few months your posts have gotten more and more hostile and angry. You have avatars that says I **** people off deal with it. Your attitude has changed DRASTICALLY lately. No more happy go lucky Jess that you used to be.

No I don't KNOW you personally so don't pull that lame excuse on me. i KNOW your type and as much as you want to deny it I used to have the same attitude because I had a sister that showed no support and ACTED like she needed no support. Now she has alienated from her friends and most of her family. i would hate for that to happen to you because you have too much "pride" or too much "pain" to let anyone in. I have seen the damage that kind of attitude can do.
I dont find Jess' post amusing in the least. That was very rude and you have no idea what personal connection she has to the issue at hand (not saying you do, Jess). And she does NOT have to explain why she feels that way. I have had some personal experiences regarding marriage (not me, but my family) and none turned out good. I've seen my family be destroyed because of marriage. I've seen my mother deal with abuse (both mentally and physically) in the name of "love" :rolleyes: . He KNEW how to manipulate her through "love" and she depended on him. I made a promise to myself to NEVER EVER allow myself to depend on someone so much and "love" them so much as to let myself get hurt in the process.

Do I believe in love? Of course, but I love myself more that ANYONE and guess what? I came in this world alone and I'm going out alone. Marriage does not gurantee anything. Its a piece of paper like Jess said. Now on the other hand I have seen many couples together for years and have never gotten married (they have even been together longer than I have been alive). And just because they didnt sign a paper mean their love is not valid. Its a bond between two people as everyone here keeps saying then why must others witness it. Why cant you just sit down with your other and in the name of God (or whatever you believe in) declare yourselves married?
 

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Thanks Puck at least you were civil about it...
I think, honestly, that my wife was civil about it as well. Often, the truth is a difficult thing to swallow. God knows there have been many times in my life that I have had to do that, swallow my PRIDE. It is not unusual for a person to react in a negative manner when things are said to them that hit home. That said, I feel for you and I pray that whatever it is that is causing you to be such an angry person can pass from you soon. Trust me when I say that I can relate to dealing with anger.

I'll part from here with some time tested words of wisdom... Deny it if you wish, but the Word never lies.

Ephesians, 5: 22-33

"22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband."


Is there any greater definition of love? I think the key part of what I bolded is if a man REALLY loves you, he will want more than just a single night of meaningless physical pleasure. You are better than that. The pride you show in all of your posts shows that.

Good Luck.
 

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I think, honestly, that my wife was civil about it as well. Often, the truth is a difficult thing to swallow. God knows there have been many times in my life that I have had to do that, swallow my PRIDE. It is not unusual for a person to react in a negative manner when things are said to them that hit home. That said, I feel for you and I pray that whatever it is that is causing you to be such an angry person can pass from you soon. Trust me when I say that I can relate to dealing with anger.
Well I for one dont think she was, she had no reason to tell me she knows "what type" I am and that I will never be loved or any of that, or the little "lol" or Im giving her a lame excuse because I dont have to explain anything to anyone but God... if she felt like she wanted to relay some personal experiences or something of that nature she coulda PM'd me....

I didnt react in a negative manner, I just said it didnt matter because it doesnt matter....Im not saying stuff just to hear myself talk...If I say something its just that, its not because Im angry or hostile or whatever anyone wants to think...

I am who I am...and thats all there is to it..
 

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I dont find Jess' post amusing in the least. That was very rude and you have no idea what personal connection she has to the issue at hand (not saying you do, Jess). And she does NOT have to explain why she feels that way. I have had some personal experiences regarding marriage (not me, but my family) and none turned out good. I've seen my family be destroyed because of marriage. I've seen my mother deal with abuse (both mentally and physically) in the name of "love" :rolleyes: . He KNEW how to manipulate her through "love" and she depended on him. I made a promise to myself to NEVER EVER allow myself to depend on someone so much and "love" them so much as to let myself get hurt in the process.

Do I believe in love? Of course, but I love myself more that ANYONE and guess what? I came in this world alone and I'm going out alone. Marriage does not gurantee anything. Its a piece of paper like Jess said. Now on the other hand I have seen many couples together for years and have never gotten married (they have even been together longer than I have been alive). And just because they didnt sign a paper mean their love is not valid. Its a bond between two people as everyone here keeps saying then why must others witness it. Why cant you just sit down with your other and in the name of God (or whatever you believe in) declare yourselves married?
You may do whatever you wish and say whatever you wish. It will never change my opinion of marriage and LOVE. I KNOW what love is and I KNOW that everyone needs it every now and then. If you think I was rude then that's your opinion. I am honest even when it hurts.

you can call me A LOT of things but NEVER dishonest EVER EVER EVER. If it is seen as rude then that is unfortunate but I will never comprimise myself to avoid "offending" others. Of course I do NOT think i was rude. And it seems I have struck a good chord with m any others in this thread so I will not lose any sleep.

If things are so tough in life that you must lash out then I really do feel bad for you. TRUST ME I have a sister who seems to find it impossible to be loved or give love. She is getting married and I have YEt to hear her say a nice thing to her husband or even touch him in a loving way. the only way I see her touch him is to punch him in the arm. I just cannot imagine going through life being so angry all the time. I then vowed that I would NEVER be that person. I would always allow myself to love and be loved because there truly is no greater feeling.

I just hope one day everyone can experience this. it really is unlike anything else.
 

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For those of you who keep quoting the bible to people who don't believe in god, it really doesn't mean squat, sorry...

Jess' life is hers. I share a lot of opinions with her and I am not "angry and negative", so I resent those comments for both her and myself.
 

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^^^ I found those last bible quotes pretty offensive, actually. I don't think that any woman should "submit" to any man. Men and women are equal, and I will love my husband... but will never submit to a man. We have come so far for equal rights, and women are not posessions.
 

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I have had some personal experiences regarding marriage (not me, but my family) and none turned out good.
So...you start by contradicting yourself....

I've seen my family be destroyed because of marriage. I've seen my mother deal with abuse (both mentally and physically) in the name of "love" :rolleyes: . He KNEW how to manipulate her through "love" and she depended on him. I made a promise to myself to NEVER EVER allow myself to depend on someone so much and "love" them so much as to let myself get hurt in the process.
Was it really marriage that "destroyed" your family? Or was it a man who did not take his vows seriously? I ask this question because of the part I underlined...

Do I believe in love? Of course, but I love myself more that ANYONE and guess what?
Any wonder so many people are alone in this world? Any wonder so many people complain about EVERYthing?

I came in this world alone and I'm going out alone. Marriage does not gurantee anything.
I beg to differ... I think your mother had a great deal to do with your birth. Also, if you leave this world "alone", you will have no one to blame but YOURSELF.

Of course marriage is not a guarantee... But only because mankind is fickle and selfish, just as you proclaim. However, if people would actually take to heart the vows they say to each other... Think about how wonderful the world just might be.

Its a piece of paper like Jess said.
The Bible begs to differ.... ;) THIS statement is the very reason why so many 'marriages' end in divorce. All it will take is a REAL and UNSELFISH commitment from people to make a difference.

Now on the other hand I have seen many couples together for years and have never gotten married (they have even been together longer than I have been alive). And just because they didnt sign a paper mean their love is not valid. Its a bond between two people as everyone here keeps saying then why must others witness it. Why cant you just sit down with your other and in the name of God (or whatever you believe in) declare yourselves married?
Because where is the TRUE commitment if you do not?
 

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For those of you who keep quoting the bible to people who don't believe in god, it really doesn't mean squat, sorry...
Truth has nothing to hide....ever. You can bury your head in the sand, "just because you don't believe in God" all you want... The Word is true.

Jess' life is hers. I share a lot of opinions with her and I am not "angry and negative", so I resent those comments for both her and myself.
Yet you have no retort.... Tell us WHY you resent those comments.
 

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^^^Yes, according to you the word is true. The bible isn't truth to everyone. Religion is one of those things that everyone disagrees on. You can believe in it, but to say it is true for everyone... is not true.
 

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Hmmkay, why I resent them. Here, I'll be a hypocrite.

"Judge not lest ye be judged."

Who are you to sit around and say that crap about someone else?
 
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