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jess2416

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'Marriage of true minds' . . . now that is what marriage is about - whether you go with the piece of paper from the government - having nothing to do with God or Gods - or stand in the dark and look at the stars together.
So true....so very very very very true :hail: although I would rather stand in the dark and look at the stars together than have a piece of paper
 

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The piece of paper can be really handy though. I'm sure lots of people get married just because of it, too.
 

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Just for the record, I have NOT stated my position on the OP's topic.

I have only chimed in about marriage, as I feel it is very important and yes, I will love my husband for the rest of my life. People may chose to believe that or not- its not important and no one but a select few know our relationship. :)
 

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Well, you can't vow the impossible. You can't vow to love someone for a lifetime, as it's something you don't really have any control on.

It makes no sense.

Edit: and I agree with Jess :D
Staying married for life requires lots of works, but it is definitely NOT impossible! I've seen too many happy, lifelong marriages to belive otherwise. Marriage is for two people who love each other enough to want to stay together for life. It requires a mature decision, and is not something one do casually. That's why the vow is as follow:

The groom says:

I, N., take you, N., to be my wife. I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life.

The bride says:

I, N., take you, N., to be my husband. I promise to be true to you in good times and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will love you and honor you all the days of my life.

Or: "I, ________, take you ______, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."
Rings:

N., take this ring as a sign of my love and fidelity. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

Of course, you can't tell the future... but if you take your vow seriously, you'll try your best to work out the problems that may arise during the marriage.

The rate of divorce is high, because people don't want to work out the problems. They choose the easy way out rather than working hard at their marriage.
 

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'Marriage of true minds' . . . now that is what marriage is about - whether you go with the piece of paper from the government - having nothing to do with God or Gods - or stand in the dark and look at the stars together.
There's a Shakespeare passage for every issue. :D And this is so very true.
 

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Oh, please. I've heard that one 100 times. What's the point in working things out when both spouses don't love each other anymore anyway? It's stupid. Makes everyone happier to divorce and get on with their life.

It's ok though, I wouldn't want to worship a God that would ask me to be unhappy. No thanks.
 
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This came from a movie... "It takes Two" I believe...

You know the feeling when it's the bottom of the ninth, the bases are loaded, and you know the next one's coming right down the middle... and then... you just connect... and for an instant, you know that it's going over the fence and out of the park... and further than you could ever imagine?
That is what I am talking about... not everyone has to be married to have THAT connection. Rob and I both know this and we strongly believe we don't HAVE to be married to love one another, or to make love to one another (lol... I don't like calling it "sex"... there is a difference between sex and making love). Even though I did not give myself to Rob, each time we make love is just as special, you know why?

Because we have THAT connection.
 

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Aww, Laura that's too sweet. :)

I don't believe you have to be married to be have a connection- to have THAT love. But I do believe in marriage and it is very important to *me* and that does not mean that people have to believe in what I do. :)
 

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I'm married, and divorced. My first marriage was because we were stupid, and thought it was the 'normal' step. We seperated 3 months later because it didn't work out (although we had been living together for one year). Guess what, sex was one of the problems on his side (I wasn't too interested to do it as much as he wanted). For me, I just stopped loving him because he didn't support me when I started having school and job problems.

The second time, we got married because of immigration problems. It didn't change anything to our relationship one way or another... just made it easier for the goverment :rolleyes:
 
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Aww, Laura that's too sweet. :)

I don't believe you have to be married to be have a connection- to have THAT love. But I do believe in marriage and it is very important to *me* and that does not mean that people have to believe in what I do. :)
Marriage is very important to me as well, and one day I hope to be married to Rob, but right now we both feel that we are still too young to try (he is 26, I am 19... I know... just a baby).

We want to be sure it is forever before we get hitched. We want to be absolutely sure (although I am pretty sure about it... ) that we are going to be together forever, because both of us feel that marriage is a lifelong commitment, as it says "In sickness and in health, as long as you both shall live".

We will get married one day... who knows, maybe it will be soon (he is one hell of a hopeless romantic and could have anything in store for me), maybe not, but you know what? I could care less, as long as I have my Robbie here by my side, and him to snuggle to every night.
 

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I think if the marriage really is NOT workable then the couple should split. There is no need to be unhappy. But I do feel that people need to put more than 10% effort into marriage. It's not something to scoff at.

But, I, for one, even though I am young, feel very confidant in the man that I chose to marry. I love him unconditionally and I take him with all of his faults and he mine. :)
 

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Well, asking me to honor something I said when I was young and stupid even if it makes me unhappy now would qualify, I think.
One can get married for a wrong reasons, and these reasons make a marriage vow (sacrament) invalid.. Being "young and stupid" is one of it.

Another reason is feeling forced into marriage for whatever reasons (immigration right, repaying debts.. ). The third one is fraud. For example, if one is an addict, and hide this fact from his/her future spouse, or if one doesn't want children and chooses not to disclose this desire..

The sacrament of marriage only takes place when two people LOVE each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. It becomes invalid when either one of the three above are met.

But, just like Buddy'sParent, marriage is something I truly belive in, however, I do not expect any others to share in my belief.
 

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I have to say...a lot of married people I know shouldn't reproduce :lol-sign:
I think divorce rates are high because people don't take marriage seriously. Too many people get married too young and later find out that they are missing out on things... like my dear "friend" here.
She and her husband got married fresh out of highschool, about a year ago. I used to help her out a lot, since our husbands were deployed together. She got pregnant around Thanksgiving- she never used birth control for whatever reasons. Now she's 3 months pregnant... does not start school... does not work and they are trying to get along with the guy's pay... All I can say is good luck with that. And now she is depressed because she realizes that she can not easily do the things she wanted to with her life. And what does her idiotic husband do? He comes home from a night out with a hickey from some stripper. I'd rather have them do it like jack rabbits safely and unmarried for the next 10 years and get married -if they want to- when they are ready and mature enough.
 

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M&M.... I admire you for sticking to your "guns" and handling this thread so well! ;) :D
Thank you. Being a catechist to teenagers, I have to address this issue many, many times before :). Sometimes I feel like I'm a lonely little fish swimming against the current, or even worse, against the huge tidewaves.. but it's okay. As long as I keep swimming, I won't be drown :lol-sign:
 

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i have a serious question for you, im not trying to be sarcastic or anything...

i dont believe in God and neither does my bf, knowing this, when i get married, would you view my marriage differently than your own?
M&M...this was directed to you :) I just like to try and understand people's views as much as possible to make sure im not misinterpreting them!

thanks :)
 
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