What Brand Of Dog Food Do You Feed?

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You all have to remember that not all of the good brands you have are available everywhere and not everyone can afford to have dog food shipped to them. Where we live there isn't such a thing as "good" dog food. You either get store brand stuff, Ol Roy, Purina brand, *possibly Eukanuba or Pedigree*, or Beneful (same ingredients as Purina). There was only one brand, and I can't think of the name now, that had Lamb listed within the first three ingredients. My dogs have never had lamb, it would do no good to switch if they turn out to be allergic to it because they've never had it before. Until this forum I'd never heard of (and still haven't seen) Canidae and the Innova brands. It's just not around here. Alot of people are doing the best they can for their dogs depending on where they live or a (possible) limited budget. I think (and will probably get bashed for it) that as long as a pup/dog gets all their shots/rabies/dewormed and goes in if there are any medical problems, have nice coats, clean skin, no fleas/ticks, healthy weight, healthy stools, eat/drink regularly and are loved and cared for then the owner is doing pretty darn good if the only problem is "not so good/bad" dog food brands.
*covers head and waits for bashing to begin* :eek:

No bash here as I feed mine premium and home made diet but agree that you feed what you can and that it is better then these guys alternitive ( shelter or street ) Many seniors around here have very happy healthy pets and are on fixed income and I would rather see these guys getting the love they need and attention if it means a less balanced diet. My thought is how many eat at burger joints ever wonder about what you eat or feed your human children ??? * Ducks and runs for cover too ****
 

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But for someone who is on a limited budget, I say choose ONE over any other grocery store food!
I would actually recommend that people compare labels and check what's in the food. Purina ONE contains rendered material from generic animal sources, which is definitely something to avoid.
 
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Mordy said:
I don't have the intention of bashing you, LabBreeder, so please don't take this the wrong way - but nutrition is the very foundation of health and many of the common problems people think are normal in dogs can be eliminated by feeding good quality food that isn't full of poor quality ingredients like meat from 4D animals, food industry byproducts, rendered restaurant grease and so on.

It's mostly a question of whether people bother educating themselves about the differences in quality and whether they are willing to make an effort finding better quality products that work out for their specific situation.
I don't think you've ever bashed anyone Mordy. You are one of about half a dozen chazzers that gives very helpful information all the time. :)
I realize good nutrition is important and I try to supplement, according to what I've seen you post on here, as much as I can in addition to their regular food. The only feed store around here has big white bags of "dog food". :eek: I'd be scared to use that stuff. Since I've been here I've learned a lot more about dog food. I have a couple of books that explain the basics but it gets into more detail here. We definitely make an effort in finding better dog food. Every time we shop I look at the different brands to make sure nothing better has shown up. At least I'm getting educated about it and willing to make an effort. ;)
 
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Herschel said:
There is a store 80 miles from you that sells Innova. Have you called and asked them if they will ship to you, or for their price? I know 80 miles is a far distance to drive, so I'm just encouraging you to call and ask about shipping.

K-9 Training Center of SEMO
(573) 651-1800
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
I'll have to call them this weekend when Tony gets home with the phone card.
We don't have long distance. :):rolleyes:
 
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Ever since 1. I joined chaz and 2. we got Gunner - I've been reading labels and looking at ingredients and %'s when we get dog food. When Tira was a pup (and I didn't know better) she was on Eukanuba and Ol Roy (different times of her life). I thought Eukanuba was really good but wasn't looking at ingredients then either. I knew Ol Roy was bad but she needed food and it was at a time when Tony had his heart attack and we weren't working. She got what we could afford at the time unfortunately.
Gunner and Tira have been on Purina...again, not the best...for awhile now. Every time we shop I look at the ingredients until it pi$$e$ Tony off and he says, "Aren't they the same as the last time you looked?" But, he knows it's important that they eat well (or as well as they can) and we keep looking just to make sure. I found one that I'd like to try but since I found it the first time it's like they stopped stocking it? :confused: Now I can't find it. I remember the bag, but not the name. Go figure.

How would you go about transitioning a dog from kibble to a raw diet? What all "raw" would they need?
 

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It's very critical to keep an eye on labels, thanks for bringing that up, LabBreeder - formulas change pretty much constantly and certainly not always for the better.

People also don't take into consideration that brand X might have been a decent product 15 years ago but has changed as pet food companies are bought up by large corporations, which them promptly turn around and decrease quality to increase their profit margin. A prime example for this is Iams.

If you want to switch to raw, it's often easier to just go "cold turkey" and stop feeding kibble. Maybe you can start a separate thread on that though, so this one won't go even further off topic than it already is. :)
 

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I'll have to call them this weekend when Tony gets home with the phone card.
We don't have long distance. :):rolleyes:
I was going to PM this to you but I figured it would look like spam. I know I shouldn't take this thread further off topic, but I need to suggest this.

Have you tried Skype? If you have a microphone for your computer (available for no more than $10-$15 at your nearest Radioshack), you can use Skype to call any US or Canadian landline or mobile phone for FREE.

http://www.skype.com

The service is reputable, reliable, and free. I recommend it to anyone that has to go without phone service either temporarily or permanently.
 
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I feed Sensible Choice, but feel like I should throw out the disclaimer that I settled on it after having one problem or another with Innova, California Natural, Timberwolf Organics, Eagle Pack and Canidae. It may not be the best but at least it works for us. :)
 

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I feed California Natural Lamb & Rice Puppy and Timberwolf Organics Dakota Bison along with raw eggs, fish oil and occasional meaty leftovers;)
 

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Bear gets Healthwise Adult, mixed with California Natural canned. We used to feed her Nutro Natural Choice canned, but we decided to switch to a better quality canned food.
 

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I fed Exclusive but due to certain problems im in the process of switching to Purina ONE. The ingredients are actually quite decent for a grocery food!

Browneyedgirl: If youre on a tight budget you should definately look at ONE, i'll tell you from experience that Beneful is no good for dogs, it has no meat and can cause terrible skin and health problems. My moms Golden was being fed Beneful and her skin was dry and flaky, her coat was greasy, and she was not acting like a 2 year old, but more like a 7 year old. We're in the process of switching her also
 

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I fed Exclusive but due to certain problems im in the process of switching to Purina ONE. The ingredients are actually quite decent for a grocery food!

Browneyedgirl: If youre on a tight budget you should definately look at ONE, i'll tell you from experience that Beneful is no good for dogs, it has no meat and can cause terrible skin and health problems. My moms Golden was being fed Beneful and her skin was dry and flaky, her coat was greasy, and she was not acting like a 2 year old, but more like a 7 year old. We're in the process of switching her also

Purina ONE:



Lamb (natural source of glucosamine), brewers rice, oat meal, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal (natural source of glucosamine), whole grain corn, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), non-fat yogurt, calcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, caramel color, salt, choline chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, brewers dried yeast, zinc sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.

Brewer's Rice is the small milled fragment of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice. Brewer's rice is a lower quality rice product that is missing many of the nutrients found in ground rice and ground brown rice. It is basically a waste product of the alcohol industry.

Corn Gluten Meal is the dried residue from corn after the removal of the larger part of the starch and germ, and the separation of the bran by the process employed in the wet milling manufacture of cornstarch or syrup, or by enzymatic treatment of the endosperm. Corn gluten in dog foods is cheap protein filler.

Poultry By-Product Meal consists of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcasses of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines; exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices. This is a low-quality, inconsistent ingredient, with multiple organs used, constantly changing proportions, and questionable nutritional value. The origin can be any fowl (turkeys, ducks, geese, buzzards, etc.), instead of a single source, like chicken. Poultry by-product meal is much less expensive and less digestible than chicken meal.

Animal Fat: Animal fat is a "generic" fat source that is most often made up of rendered animal fat, restaurant grease, or other oils too rancid or deemed inedible for humans. Look for a named fat source, such as poultry or chicken fat, that is naturally preserved.

Animal Digest: A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. Animal digest is a palatability enhancer, which can contain unpredictable parts from animals of unknown origin.

Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.

Menadione: Toxic. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione


Canidae:

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

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Pet Food Direct Prices: 20lb Bag

Purina ONE: $24.29
Canidae: $20.99

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Sources:
http://www.dogfoodproject.com
http://www.ourpetfood.com/comparison.html
 

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Purina ONE:



Lamb (natural source of glucosamine), brewers rice, oat meal, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal (natural source of glucosamine), whole grain corn, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), non-fat yogurt, calcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, animal digest, potassium chloride, caramel color, salt, choline chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, brewers dried yeast, zinc sulfate, Vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, calcium iodate, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), sodium selenite.

Brewer's Rice is the small milled fragment of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice. Brewer's rice is a lower quality rice product that is missing many of the nutrients found in ground rice and ground brown rice. It is basically a waste product of the alcohol industry.

Corn Gluten Meal is the dried residue from corn after the removal of the larger part of the starch and germ, and the separation of the bran by the process employed in the wet milling manufacture of cornstarch or syrup, or by enzymatic treatment of the endosperm. Corn gluten in dog foods is cheap protein filler.

Poultry By-Product Meal consists of the ground, rendered, clean parts of the carcasses of slaughtered poultry, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines; exclusive of feathers except in such amounts as might occur unavoidably in good processing practices. This is a low-quality, inconsistent ingredient, with multiple organs used, constantly changing proportions, and questionable nutritional value. The origin can be any fowl (turkeys, ducks, geese, buzzards, etc.), instead of a single source, like chicken. Poultry by-product meal is much less expensive and less digestible than chicken meal.

Animal Fat: Animal fat is a "generic" fat source that is most often made up of rendered animal fat, restaurant grease, or other oils too rancid or deemed inedible for humans. Look for a named fat source, such as poultry or chicken fat, that is naturally preserved.

Animal Digest: A material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. Animal digest is a palatability enhancer, which can contain unpredictable parts from animals of unknown origin.

Salt: While salt is a necessary mineral, it is also generally present in sufficient quantities in the ingredients pet foods include. Just like for humans, too much sodium intake is unhealthy for animals. In poor quality foods it is often used in large amounts to add flavor and make the food more interesting.

Menadione: Toxic. http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=menadione


Canidae:

Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Herring Meal, Flax Seed, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Chicken, Lecithin, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Linoleic Acid, Rosemary Extract, Sage Extract, Dried Enterococcus Faecium, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Extract, Inulin (from Chicory root), Saccharomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Mixed Tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Riboflavin (source of B2), Beta Carotene, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, D-Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Papaya, Vitamin B12 Supplement.

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Pet Food Direct Prices: 20lb Bag

Purina ONE: $24.29
Canidae: $20.99

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Sources:
http://www.dogfoodproject.com
http://www.ourpetfood.com/comparison.html
You know what I dont want to be rude but Im tired of having people throw ingredient lists at me like I am feeding crap because I want to. I LIVE IN PUERTO RICO for the billionth time and there is no Canidae, TO or any of that stuff! I am feeding the best I can, due to my circumstances.

P.S. A 20lbg bag of ONE is 16.49 here not 24.29
 

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