Very POOR eating habits has resumed, but this time worst than before
LB, looks like you've disenchanted a lot of people on this board.
I'm willing to continue being nice (and helpful) to you for your dogs sake. Seriously, stop feeding treats, yogurt, kefir, or anything other than a maintenance diet. A commercial kibble, although not the best option, will be a great place for you to start. Once your dog is consistently eating kibble for 1 month, feel free to start adding things.
I worry that your dog hasn't been gaining weight. Dober, although I agree with you that 48 hours may be too long, I think LB has pushed this poor puppy to such a state of confusion. By the way LB--no more force feeding. Your puppy is healthy enough to eat on his own, he doesn't need you shoving anything down his throat.
So put a set amount of kibble in a bowl, and offer it to him every 6 hours. If he refuses it for an entire day, feel free to put a tiny bit of nutrical or water on it. Then try the same thing again the next day. I guarantee you he will eat. Are you capable of being consistent?
I'm willing to continue being nice (and helpful) to you for your dogs sake. Seriously, stop feeding treats, yogurt, kefir, or anything other than a maintenance diet. A commercial kibble, although not the best option, will be a great place for you to start. Once your dog is consistently eating kibble for 1 month, feel free to start adding things.
I worry that your dog hasn't been gaining weight. Dober, although I agree with you that 48 hours may be too long, I think LB has pushed this poor puppy to such a state of confusion. By the way LB--no more force feeding. Your puppy is healthy enough to eat on his own, he doesn't need you shoving anything down his throat.
So put a set amount of kibble in a bowl, and offer it to him every 6 hours. If he refuses it for an entire day, feel free to put a tiny bit of nutrical or water on it. Then try the same thing again the next day. I guarantee you he will eat. Are you capable of being consistent?
I couldn't agree with you more. Force feeding is not a way to make a dog like to eat. It sounds like she's stressing the dog out in a lot of ways....if there is a dog, that is.
I say, take the dog to a vet... another vet. Get a 2nd opinion. There's something wrong with a dog who won't eat anything at all for days and days. Did the vet do an upper and lower GI? Or put a scope down the alimentary canal?
Don't bother answering...just figured I'd toss that in for the heck of it while I was responding to Herschel.
I say, take the dog to a vet... another vet. Get a 2nd opinion. There's something wrong with a dog who won't eat anything at all for days and days. Did the vet do an upper and lower GI? Or put a scope down the alimentary canal?
Don't bother answering...just figured I'd toss that in for the heck of it while I was responding to Herschel.
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Okay, I went through this with Ronin... that boy would NOT eat to save his life he'd go days without food and not miss a beat. he started to look like a walking skeleton.
I tried EVERYTHING... all types of dry kibble, wet food, tripe, cottage cheese, yogurt, supplements, satin balls, nutrical, raw meat, vitamin B, ground up dog food with water and gravy added, even macaroni and cheese... NOTHING worked.
Literally. Nothing worked, and it worked well. Once I stopped coddling him and worrying about it, and decided that if he wanted to be a skinny dog, well gosh darn he could be one if that's what he really wanted....
.. he started eating. Now, he needs nothing to convince him to eat - I scoop out his kibble and plop it in his bowl, and he eats it.
Give your poor dog a rest and stop worrying about his food. If the vet hasn't been able to find anything wrong with him, then don't worry about it - stop caring, and he'll probably start eating.
I tried EVERYTHING... all types of dry kibble, wet food, tripe, cottage cheese, yogurt, supplements, satin balls, nutrical, raw meat, vitamin B, ground up dog food with water and gravy added, even macaroni and cheese... NOTHING worked.
Literally. Nothing worked, and it worked well. Once I stopped coddling him and worrying about it, and decided that if he wanted to be a skinny dog, well gosh darn he could be one if that's what he really wanted....
.. he started eating. Now, he needs nothing to convince him to eat - I scoop out his kibble and plop it in his bowl, and he eats it.
Give your poor dog a rest and stop worrying about his food. If the vet hasn't been able to find anything wrong with him, then don't worry about it - stop caring, and he'll probably start eating.
I had the same with my older dog.
Stop fussing him. Put his food down, if he doesn't eat, take it away. DON'T be tempted to offer again the same day, leave until the following meal time the next day. KEEP doing this, until he realises that you're not giong to fuss him anymore.
Dog's are scavengers by nature, he won't starve himself.
Stop fussing him. Put his food down, if he doesn't eat, take it away. DON'T be tempted to offer again the same day, leave until the following meal time the next day. KEEP doing this, until he realises that you're not giong to fuss him anymore.
Dog's are scavengers by nature, he won't starve himself.
LB wanted me to pass this on:
She's in the process of grinding the kibble (by hand) into a fine powder, adding a cocktail of freshly squeezed carrot juice and home-made chicken broth, and blending it into a fine pâté'. She plans to spoon feed it to her puppy, as Poms tend to only eat by spoon (it's a Pom thing, none of you will understand).
Kidding.
She's in the process of grinding the kibble (by hand) into a fine powder, adding a cocktail of freshly squeezed carrot juice and home-made chicken broth, and blending it into a fine pâté'. She plans to spoon feed it to her puppy, as Poms tend to only eat by spoon (it's a Pom thing, none of you will understand).
Kidding.
Mine don't In the heat or when my girl's in season
But that's just me being awkward
Apart from that, I agree with everyone else, If you know so much, why are asking people for advice ?
Perhaps you should open yr own forum, so you can ask yourself for advice and give the answers too
In the heat or when my girl's in season But that's just me being awkward
Apart from that, I agree with everyone else, If you know so much, why are asking people for advice ?
Perhaps you should open yr own forum, so you can ask yourself for advice and give the answers too
I guess I should have said, "weeks and weeks." If they didn't eat for too many weeks and there was nothing wrong with them, there soon would be.
LOL!
That's the best advice I've ever seen. Maybe she will. She won't be trolling on this forum anymore. She's been neutralized.
I know this thread is pretty much "dead" but it was rather comical at times.... poor dog.
But I do have a question about what I read a few pages back.
Someone said that "free feeding" can cause a dog to be picky eaters (or something along those lines).
What exactly is free feeding?
I ask because when we first got Ollie he wouldn't eat all his food. Someone mentioned to scatter his food around the kitchen as dogs are natural hunters and eating will be more rewarding to him.
We did this and it seems to work. But are we sending the message by doing this that we are not in charge and not capable of taking care of him? maybe this has contributed to his separation anxiety?
Should we go back to feeding him out of a bowl again?
But I do have a question about what I read a few pages back.
Someone said that "free feeding" can cause a dog to be picky eaters (or something along those lines).
What exactly is free feeding?
I ask because when we first got Ollie he wouldn't eat all his food. Someone mentioned to scatter his food around the kitchen as dogs are natural hunters and eating will be more rewarding to him.
We did this and it seems to work. But are we sending the message by doing this that we are not in charge and not capable of taking care of him? maybe this has contributed to his separation anxiety?
Should we go back to feeding him out of a bowl again?
Wait. Did you ban her? How are you so sure she's a troll? I wanted to hear if her puppy was doing better!
Other forums with LB2007:
http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1492
http://dogboston.com/forums/topic/349
http://www.dogboston.com/forums/
I think it's a legitimate person with real problems, just very rude.
Other forums with LB2007:
http://www.clickertraining.com/node/1492
http://dogboston.com/forums/topic/349
http://www.dogboston.com/forums/
I think it's a legitimate person with real problems, just very rude.
You may have missed some other threads where she was not only exceedingly rude, but she was cruel, disruptive and it was quite plain that she was here for the sole purpose of disrupting our forum and its members. This is what a troll is. For all I know, she may not even have a puppy.
Djeclipse....if you're having any behavioral issues, such as excessive pushiness or possession guarding, aggression or you need to control most every resource, that's one area where free feeding (leaving a bowl out all day and night) takes away from your opportunity to control when and where you feed your dog. That regulating of your dog's stuff is one way which helps you to be a good leader. If you're not having problems like that or don't have a picky eater, it really doesn't matter a whole lot. Throwing the food around at various times is fine. You're still controlling the food distribution and it can be a fun way for the dog to get his food. That's a good idea to try for a picky eater.
Djeclipse....if you're having any behavioral issues, such as excessive pushiness or possession guarding, aggression or you need to control most every resource, that's one area where free feeding (leaving a bowl out all day and night) takes away from your opportunity to control when and where you feed your dog. That regulating of your dog's stuff is one way which helps you to be a good leader. If you're not having problems like that or don't have a picky eater, it really doesn't matter a whole lot. Throwing the food around at various times is fine. You're still controlling the food distribution and it can be a fun way for the dog to get his food. That's a good idea to try for a picky eater.
I feel it was a real person but she did not want any help, every good reply she got she became very defensive and didn't take the advice. She seemed to be someone that was looking for attention more then actual help for her dog.
Thanks for the replies again. Ollie is not having any aggression/ possession issues with his food or toys. From the first time we fed him we've had our hands in his food, taking it away form him etc. just so he is used to it and doesn't develop issues like that. The only real issue with him is the separation anxiety which seems to be much better now, and some chewing issues, but I assume it's just puppy things.
Maybe we'll mix the scatter feeding with feeding from his dish so he never really knows where the food is going to be each day and keeps it fun and interesting.
As long as we're not contributing to the separation anxiety all is good.
Thanks again
Thanks for the replies again. Ollie is not having any aggression/ possession issues with his food or toys. From the first time we fed him we've had our hands in his food, taking it away form him etc. just so he is used to it and doesn't develop issues like that. The only real issue with him is the separation anxiety which seems to be much better now, and some chewing issues, but I assume it's just puppy things.
Maybe we'll mix the scatter feeding with feeding from his dish so he never really knows where the food is going to be each day and keeps it fun and interesting.
As long as we're not contributing to the separation anxiety all is good.
Thanks again