Using flexies

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Like Kate, I use mine when travelling (they are great for rest stops where the dog potty area is on a steep hill lol) and when out on trails with a single dog. I use longlines, too, but not when hiking since they are so hard to reel in and are even harder to hold short (I have 30' lines). They have their place, but unfortunately too many idiots own them and don't realize that that place is not everywhere. :p
 
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IMO they have their place. A large open field, at a lake, out int he woods.

They do NOT belong on side walks, bike paths, pet stores, grooming shops, vets, high volume areas with people and dogs/animals. Unless they are locked.

I have had WAY to many bad experiences with people and flexi's. I never get the people with great danes, wearing haltis using a flexi. seems like a disaster waiting to happen. And doesnt that rule out the use of a halti and flexi.
 

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I use a flexi for off-leash hikes when Liz is in heat (because she obviously cannot be off-leash with the others !)

My mother, on the other hand, only uses a flexi, and lets her dog wind around other people and greet everyone and every dog she meets. It makes me ill, especially because Cleo hasn't had training in the 6 years or so since I left home, and could probably still complete an advanced rally course with ease...

mostly I hate them, but only because people use them stupidly.
 

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I must say that I only used one to hold another dog /// they were news to me and I did a bad job !!!
 

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They have their uses, just like any other tool. But I think for the general public, they're not very good. The BIGGEST problem I have noticed is that people either don't know how to make the flexi NOT go out all the way, or they just don't care.

At Woofstock here every fall, Flexis are forbidden.

The other thing about Flexis is that they dog HAS to pull to extend the leash, so I'm not a fan of using them on collars. Sometimes I do use them on a harness, but generally if I want a long line, I use a long line. I've also broken many Flexis, so it's kind of not worth it anyway. I can make a long line for under $5.

And of course, there's injury risk. I've seen some nasty Flexi injures. The most recent was a dog who's tail was severely damaged from becoming entangled in the cord (for the record, they guy was drunk and was trying to walk 3 dogs on Flexis, and none of the dogs really knew how to walk on a leash).

I find Flexis hard to hold, too.
 

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i LOVE my flexies...
but i also know how to use them lol.

when walking on a street, public place, ect...
the flexie is locked at 5-6ft long, even shorter if nessicary.

when in an open feild, open place park, anywhere where i can let them have the freedom i unlock the leash and give them "all done" comand and they know that they can use full length.

when LOCKED they are to walk loose leash heel, they are told to heel and are expected to do so.

when unlocked they are to walk loose leash heel unless given an "all done"

its that simple.

but then again ive also had people tell me walking me dogs on harnesses is bad for them and teaches bad leash manners yet mine are ALL the exact opposite (i walk the smallones on harness to save their trecheas) and personally feel there is absolutly NO reason a flexie, or a harness should account for bad leash manners...

unfortunatly though, like all tools i feel that many that use them in the mundane dog community do NOT know how to use them correctly.
and i feel that an owner looking to buy a flexi should have to pass a test first lol.

i find 5 dogs on a long line in the park to be too much of a handfull for me, ive found flexies easier to juggle with the little dogs.

i wouldnt use a flexie for walking a large breed though, anything over 30lbs...

i DID have a horse flexi for when i was fostering sky the dane but i couldnt let him off leash even in the yard at that point because he couldnt hear me call him to come lol
 

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Love my Flexi! It has the thick 'leash like' rope in it so it's not that nasty rope that cuts so quick and easy. I use the Flexi all the time at the shelter, gives the dogs a chance to enjoy their walk. However, we are walking in a controlled environment. With my own dogs I usually don't use them because we are in tighter quarters but at the beach, etc. they are awesome!
 

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I LOVE flexis! We use them at work to exercise dogs, and I really don't know what we'd do without them. Before I started working here I HATED them because I saw so many people misusing them, but within about a month of using them myself I bought one for my dog. :)

At work we ONLY use the "all belt" type flexis, the cord ones are way too dangerous. I've only been burned by the belt twice (the last time was last week :rolleyes:), and we've only ever had one dog break the flexi by pulling too hard (and it was while he was being walked by a volunteer, not a trainer, I do think it could have been prevented with a little more dilligence). We buy flexis that have the highest weight rating you can buy in the store (and we ordered a special stronger one for the great dane we just got ;)), and we get the shortest length you can buy - 16 feet... the longer the length, the more speed the dog can build up before hitting the end.

From a training perspective, they do have huge downsides...the biggest being that they tend to teach the dog to be on a tight leash ~ but that's because of how they're used.
I used to think this too (back when I hated flexis, actually), but now I disagree. I really don't believe that the amount of pressure a flexi puts on the dog's collar is great enough to make any difference when you're training loose leash walking. Maybe it's because at work we don't teach dogs "walk without any pressure on the leash," we teach them "walk at my side."

And as for the dog needing to be "trained" before using a flexi, I disagree with that as well. At work our dogs usually walk on a flexi the first day or two they're with us, and they certainly had not had enough training at that point to do recalls or loose leash walking. But it really doesn't seem detrimental to their training to be on flexis.

I also don't understand how long line leashes are better than flexis. I used a long line before I bought my flexi, and it was really annoying because it kept getting stuck on every little rock and twig on the ground. Plus I really believe that the pressure a dog has to pull against to drag a 20 or 30 foot cotton line (the ones you can buy at pet stores) across the ground is far greater than the pressure they have to pull to pull out a flexi. Plus they get wet and muddy, which makes them even heavier (and messier in my car).

Going for walks with more then one dogs is impossible with a flexi leash. Though when we go places like the beach where we're seated for a while I love using them.
Nah, I do it all the time with my dog. It can be annoying sometimes, but it can be done. I dogsat for a trainer-friend of mine who had two dogs that were experienced agility dogs. I walked them together on flexis through dense woods, and they stayed 10-15 feet in front of me the entire walk. I could "steer" them just by turning my shoulders, and we'd weave through the trees easily even though they were so far in front of me.
 

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Plus I really believe that the pressure a dog has to pull against to drag a 20 or 30 foot cotton line (the ones you can buy at pet stores) across the ground is far greater than the pressure they have to pull to pull out a flexi. Plus they get wet and muddy, which makes them even heavier (and messier in my car).
That's why I don't use cotton webbing, and why I make my own. I use thin rope...I don't remember what it's made out of but it's extremely light. It's also mostly waterproof.
 

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I used to think this too (back when I hated flexis, actually), but now I disagree. I really don't believe that the amount of pressure a flexi puts on the dog's collar is great enough to make any difference when you're training loose leash walking. Maybe it's because at work we don't teach dogs "walk without any pressure on the leash," we teach them "walk at my side."
Maybe...or maybe because you're professional trainers. ;) I've never had trouble using a flexi lead on an untrained dog and also teaching LLW/heel. But pet people? It does seem to be an issue, although there are certainly plenty of other variables involved.

I walked them together on flexis through dense woods, and they stayed 10-15 feet in front of me the entire walk. I could "steer" them just by turning my shoulders, and we'd weave through the trees easily even though they were so far in front of me.
:eek:
*pictures herself attempting to walk two malis on flexis*
*shudders at the thought of that tangled mess*
:p
 

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They have never had a use over on this end. My ex boyfriend used to walk his dog on one and it drove me batty. He'd get so mad that she didn't understand heel when he wanted her in close to him. Uh, duh buddy. You've never taught her how to heel.
 
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most of the problems it appears is just because people dont[' train their dogs, is that really the flexi's fault? I happen to love mine, think they're great, and don't travel anywhere without mine. I walk 2 at a time with them easier than I can 2 with long leads. They make it easy for my dogs to walk twice as far as me in the same distance. They can heel just fine when they have to, and nobody gets hurt.
 

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I can understand the hatred, especially after being taken down by a full speed Golden Retriever and his owner on the other side clotheslining me at the knees! But as far as MY usage, I like mine. Maybe I can change my response ... you should be licensed to Flexi. :p
 

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I like my flexis... I've walked all 3 dogs at the same time on flexis, they rarely pull and get a chance to trot/lope back and forth in front of me so they get a bit more exercise. We do walk in open areas (private property, so no worries about running into someone).
It's kind of funny how they'll arrange themselves if given the chance - Murphy takes point position to the left, Riley either follows close to Murphy or takes the middle, and Mick has the wheel position and is always to the right of Murphy.
 

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I like mine for when I use it. Like Colliewog, I use mine when traveling to shows. It gives Ivan enough room to get away from me, or me to get away from him so I don't get mistaken for something to pee on. I do not use mine for normal walking, going to the vets, pet stores or any of that. And at the shows while inside it is locked so he can not go any where BUT my side and it does not get released until we are a distance from the building.
 

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They have never had a use over on this end. My ex boyfriend used to walk his dog on one and it drove me batty. He'd get so mad that she didn't understand heel when he wanted her in close to him. Uh, duh buddy. You've never taught her how to heel.
Yes, but she can't heel because he never taught her to heel, not because he uses a flexi.
 

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Don't like them. Never seen someone use it properly. You've got a dog on the sidewalk next to a busy road that is 15 feet in front of the owner. Looks like a bad idea to me. I always see them at the dog park too... owner won't actually let the dog off the leash, but the dog has the entire thing extended and other dogs are running into it and getting tripped up and the dog on the leash is getting snarky about it... etc etc.

I just have no use for one. I want my dog at my side on walks. If we're in the woods, they're off leash. For a dog that's not reliable off leash I could see them being used in an open field or in the woods. But not on your everyday walk around the block.
 

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The only time I ever use it is when I'm going somewhere that I know I can let it out and let him play out on the end of the lead. But until we get to that location, he's locked at 6ft.

I don't really like how they feel in my hand but I'm used to holding a regular lead for so long, it just feels awkward whenever I have the flexi.
 

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For a leisurely walk through a field or something, or on the beach maybe, they're nice.

80% of the time for 90% of the stupid people around, they're just dangerous, annoying, and useless.
 

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