Toddler mauled to death by pet dingo/lab mix
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Yeah, well, they shouldn't have had a dog with dingo in it. Everybody knows that you can't keep a lion as a pet, you should not have dingo/dingo crosses either. They are wild dogs. They should be allowed to stay that way. I am so sick of my fellow Australians having dingos/dingo crosses and then acting surprised when something like this happens, and then another dog dies. They attack things, it's what they do. Azaria Chamberlain should have made people realise that, if nothing else. 
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Yeah, well, they shouldn't have had a dog with dingo in it. Everybody knows that you can't keep a lion as a pet, you should not have dingo/dingo crosses either. They are wild dogs. They should be allowed to stay that way. I am so sick of my fellow Australians having dingos/dingo crosses and then acting surprised when something like this happens, and then another dog dies. They attack things, it's what they do. Azaria Chamberlain should have made people realise that, if nothing else.
It doesn't really surprise me when people keep such pets that such things happen... I agree, same as wolf hybrids. Plus I think a dog doesn't just 'creep' in a house and in a kid's bedroom, the owners must have been very careless IMO... It's always sad when this type of things happens but it could really be avoided.
I think it's hasty to simply blame the parents for lack of supervision (lack of common sense in having a half-wild animal living with their child is another matter) and dismiss the idea of the hybrid 'creeping' into the kid's room. If the animal had decided the child was legitimate prey, it might very well have slipped quietly into her bedroom as a stalking action. I've seen all my dogs get very low-profile when they were up to no good; I imagine a dingo mix would be even more cunning about evading notice.
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I know people who have a pure dingo and a dingo mix. They're great dogs. The same thing applies with hybrids as it does with ordinary dogs. Socialise, train, supervise. I'm surprised at the attitudes to this story. If it had been a pit mix, you all would have been going oh, no poor pit. When i was growing up, every second person in my neighbourhood had a dingo cross. Never saw a problem with any of them. Try not to have such double standards.
Having owned a wolf hybrid, and known people who have wolf hybrids, I definately disagree. They are very, very different from dogs. Just because you raise it like a dog does not mean it will act like a dog. If you check out the websites of responsible wolfdog owners associations, they will tell you the same.
If you read my post properly you would have seen that my attitude was very much `poor dog'. People should NOT have these dogs. Then they might survive naturally in the wild where they belong. Not get put down for acting on their instinctual behaviours because they can't ever be tamed.
It's the same with wildcats - ie bobcats etc that are kept as pets. It can be done, but it's a completely different kettle of fish and needs to be seen that way. It is naive to believe that nurture vs nature will win in such situations.
It's the same with wildcats - ie bobcats etc that are kept as pets. It can be done, but it's a completely different kettle of fish and needs to be seen that way. It is naive to believe that nurture vs nature will win in such situations.
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I don't know anything about wolves or wolf hybrids. I do know about dingoes. They're not in the same category as wolves. The aborigines used to have them as pets and hunting dogs. They still do in areas like the northern territory. Scientists reckon they're not even native to australia. The theory is that aborigines brought them over with them from Indonesia. I brought pits into it because theirs was the first name that came into my head. That and because the first thing everyone says about a pit attack is, 'oh, the owner must have done something wrong.' I have nothing against pits.
Nature vs nurture comes into this because, as i said, dingoes are in a different category to wolves.
The blue heeler has dingo in its ancestry. A lot of cattlemen say that dingo, bluey cross dogs make the best cattle dogs.
Nature vs nurture comes into this because, as i said, dingoes are in a different category to wolves.
The blue heeler has dingo in its ancestry. A lot of cattlemen say that dingo, bluey cross dogs make the best cattle dogs.
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If they're wild bred and live in the wild, yes they are wild animals, same as any dog in that situation.
If they're domesticated from birth, they're not wild, they're domesticated. I understand that this is completely different from a wolf. They have never been domesticated. The dingo originally was. I've never seen one show any sort of behaviour that's different from a normal dog. The only way you can even tell the difference in appearance is the shape and set of their ears. With a lot of hybrids you can't tell. They look like a red heeler cross.
If they're domesticated from birth, they're not wild, they're domesticated. I understand that this is completely different from a wolf. They have never been domesticated. The dingo originally was. I've never seen one show any sort of behaviour that's different from a normal dog. The only way you can even tell the difference in appearance is the shape and set of their ears. With a lot of hybrids you can't tell. They look like a red heeler cross.
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I suggest you do some research, because you are very misinformed. You can find digoes in the wild, which means that they are WILD. Just because you take a dingo puppy and raise it in your home, doesnt mean that he becomes tame. You cant find pit bulls, rotties, chows, or any other dog breed in the wild, because they are not wild. Dingoes were originally domesicated? I dont think so. Keeping dingoes not only puts people in danger, but it puts the dingoes in danger also. Wild populations of Australian dingoes may go extinct within 50 years unless steps are taken to prevent crossbreeding with domestic dogs, scientists and conservationists say... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1210_041210_australia_dingoes.html
Actually if I remember correctly - she is right in part. Dingos did originally come to Australia as a domesticated dog several thousand years ago with the original aborigines, BUT went feral/wild, not long after. They were also part of the core breeding stock of Australian Cattle Dogs (also known as Queensland Heelers) as they were beign developed for many of their traits towards being silent. (Aussies herd by being dead silent and nipping because they are meant to herd cattle across long distances of the outback - you don't want or need a stampede out there)
The Australian Aborigines do still keep a few as pets, but do so with ones that have been "tame" for more than a few generations. The dogs still live a half-feral life however, from what I understand.
BUT.. I do agree that they are more "wild" than domesticated, and not just raising one as a puppy will "re-domesticate" it when the species has been wild for at least a thousand years. I don't agree with wolf-hybrids or dingo hybrids especially ones that are only a few generations tame. I've known people to swear by them - but I will never be one to advocate such a thing.
The Australian Aborigines do still keep a few as pets, but do so with ones that have been "tame" for more than a few generations. The dogs still live a half-feral life however, from what I understand.
BUT.. I do agree that they are more "wild" than domesticated, and not just raising one as a puppy will "re-domesticate" it when the species has been wild for at least a thousand years. I don't agree with wolf-hybrids or dingo hybrids especially ones that are only a few generations tame. I've known people to swear by them - but I will never be one to advocate such a thing.