Thinking about a Mac?

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PC's using Windows are overall crappy, slow, get viruses, and lack integrity.
No that's not really fair to say. They're slow and get viruses when people 'randomly download' crap, such as Saje (no offense, just using you as an example). Then you get malware and all that good stuff to bog down your system. I haven't had a virus in years (and I don't use an anti-virus) and the last one I got could've been avoided but I was being stupid and soon as I clicked the .exe I immediately thought "Ya know, probably just got a virus from that". It made me feel dirty.

But if people would take the time to learn how to properly run a computer then they'd get a much longer life expectancy out of it. I've been running this same rig for about 7 years now. I've upgraded the hardware attached to it but it's the same hard drive (which I'm amazed has lasted this long but not going to jinx it).

It's still going strong. Runs like a dream. Only problem is the hard drive will hang up every now and then and take a bit to open a folder (2 second delay most the time) but ah, it's 7 years old. Definitely the weakest link in my system.

I can't just randomly download things cuz they could have a virus. <sigh> I miss my safe world.
See that blows my mind. Why would you just randomly download things that aren't from a reputable source?
 

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Hmm. Macs are faster, more competent, haven't had one major problem in my three years of owning a Mac (other than user-created of course ;) ) and I feel MUCH better using a Mac over any stinky POS using Windows. PC's using Windows are overall crappy, slow, get viruses, and lack integrity.
'Faster' has nothing to do with the OS, it's all a function of the CPU speed, the amount of RAM you have, and the program you're running.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'more competent' or 'lack integrity', so I can't comment on that. I can't quantify 'overall crappy', and I already covered viruses...
 

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Sure, it's fair to say. I speak my opinions and in this case, PC's using Windows are overall crappy, slow, get viruses, and lack integrity. Sorry, I can't be persuaded on this issue. I also know a great number of people who have gone from using a WPC to a Mac and have NEVER looked back. ;)
 

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I also know a large number of people who have done the switch and haven't looked back.

However, I also know a large number of people who refuse to learn good computer skills and instead choose something that helps then remain mostly ignorant of how to properly use a computer to avoid viruses and destroying it.

a good metaphor would be people trying to learn how to ride a bike, falling over a few times, and then deciding to use training wheels for the rest of their life.
 

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lol it's funny how i can find freeware for a mac and download and have zero problems yet with a pc I have to be suspicious of everything and even then still can't trust it. That's why I appreciate my mac. Well, that's one reason. I like to be able to trust my system and not be limited by what i can do. Call it a user fault if you will. I think that those who haven't had that freedom can't really appreciate it. I grew up with it and now that it's taken away it SUCKS.
 

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I like to be able to trust my system and not be limited by what i can do
Erm...I don't feel particularly limited by using a windows unit. Hell, not limited at all. I'd feel much more limited using a Mac because not near as many programs are written for the Mac. I'd have to install Boot Camp just to effectively use a mac.
 

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I also know a great number of people who have gone from using a WPC to a Mac and have NEVER looked back. ;)


I am hearing this ALOT since I started talking about switching.....

As for taking the time to learn.... Honestly I don't want to be a programmer and have very little spare time as it is, I consider myself an average user and if I need more skills than I have just to safely use my computer than alot of people are in trouble.... I run a virus protection and still get viruses, I am tired of that, of the compatibility issues with Vista ( Photoshop HATES Vista it seems ) I also find that I am lucky to get a few years from my computers and every Mac user I have talked with says they have noticed the increased longevity of their machines as a huge positive!!

Still doing research for now... loving all the opinions!!
 

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Honestly I don't want to be a programmer and have very little spare time as it is
You don't have to be a programmer. I've taken one programming class (C++, hated it) in my life time and apply nothing from it in my daily computer usage (unless making a cout<<"Hello World"<<endl; joke, which happens once in a blue moon).

It doesn't even take all that much time. It's just learning the basics, like don't randomly download and install stuff that's not from a reputable source. Run a malware/spyware scanner once a month or so. Defragment once every couple of months. Nothing hard. Nothing time consuming. You can defrag while you sleep and scan in the background.


But anyhow, simply put: if you want longevity, functionality, and save money: Build a windows unit (preferably not vista, I'm still using XP. You can still get XP, they extended the life on it).

If you want an over priced, under powered, limited unit, get a Mac.
 

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I am hearing this ALOT since I started talking about switching.....

As for taking the time to learn.... Honestly I don't want to be a programmer and have very little spare time as it is, I consider myself an average user and if I need more skills than I have just to safely use my computer than alot of people are in trouble.... I run a virus protection and still get viruses, I am tired of that, of the compatibility issues with Vista ( Photoshop HATES Vista it seems ) I also find that I am lucky to get a few years from my computers and every Mac user I have talked with says they have noticed the increased longevity of their machines as a huge positive!!

Still doing research for now... loving all the opinions!!
How about the option to be able to upgrade individual components in your computer as they become obsolete for your uses? What about the option to be able to fix your computer yourself without having to take it into mac store?

I'd consider having options as to what you buy a huge positive, as well as getting a better machine for cheaper (by about 50%).
 

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And exactly how do you decide what is a reputable source? Hm? I know there are the usual suspects but there are also a lot of good sources out there that the average person doesn't know about. And you have to either take a lot of time to review sources or you just can't do it.
 

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How about the option to be able to upgrade individual components in your computer as they become obsolete for your uses? What about the option to be able to fix your computer yourself without having to take it into mac store?

I'd consider having options as to what you buy a huge positive, as well as getting a better machine for cheaper (by about 50%).
I don't know any mac users that don't do their own repairs :confused: I've done all of mine. Most things are quick and simple on a mac. You have to live in a metropolis to find mac repair stores so most mac users just do it themselves. Not that you need to repair/upgrade very often.
 

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But anyhow, simply put: if you want longevity, functionality, and save money: Build a windows unit (preferably not vista, I'm still using XP. You can still get XP, they extended the life on it).

If you want an over priced, under powered, limited unit, get a Mac.
This pretty much sums it up. Some basic computer skills which every person should have is more than enough to keep a windows box running like new.

I was running off the same computer for 7 years (the same computer on which I learned the basic computer skills I keep talking about) and didn't have any problems that I didn't directly cause due to being retarded and downloading some sketchy programs that I thought would be cool at the time. Even then I didn't have large problems with it.
 

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ROFLMAO! Obviously there is SOME bias in this thread :p Both sides of course.
 

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Gee, I own a Mac, guess I don't know how to work a decent computer. :rolleyes:

Oh, and this whole notion that people don't take enough time to get to know a system.. the same applies for a Mac.. if those people take the time to learn how to do their own repairs then they won't have to take it in to a Apple store to get fixed. Funny thing is, though, I've never had to do that! Have never had to reformat, clean my slate and start over. So my money has not been wasted on these 'overpriced' machines. I bet those who say Macs are overpriced would jump at the chance to buy one if they WERE in your price range. ;) By the way, college students get a discount, just a thought. ;)
 
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And exactly how do you decide what is a reputable source?
You can do a google search for a review of most websites.

I use a firefox extension called StumbleUpon where people review pages to help aid in my decision.

I look at the ranking on google to see how many other people visit the site.

I don't download from random sites that random people send me.

I don't download from a page that looks like it was just slapped together.


It's not hard. Not hard at all even for an average user. Hell my sister even managed to learn how to use a computer properly and she is by no means a computer person.
 

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Hmm. Macs are faster, more competent, haven't had one major problem in my three years of owning a Mac (other than user-created of course ;) ) and I feel MUCH better using a Mac over any stinky POS using Windows. PC's using Windows are overall crappy, slow, get viruses, and lack integrity.
Hear hear! I LOVE my Mac, I won't have anything else. There will aways be a PC in the house though, since SO likes Windows. :rolleyes:
 

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Well, I am a computer person I just happen to be a mac person. I've used them since the early 80s. Doesn't mean I'm computer illiterate. Just means I think PCs are a waste of space. lol
 

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