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Lauren, I love stories like that. So heartwarming. What a great little dog Summer is!

Eta: also, thanks for all the nice comments about my grandma's gift, guys. I hadn't made it back to this thread until tonight. She did love it. Gave it to her on Sunday night.
 
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Sometimes it pays to have a breeder who likes you lol. I might have found a cure for my puppy fever but inability to take on another permanent dog. I think I'm going to raise/grow out a Toller puppy for a breeder as she wants to keep a couple at the moment. Yay temporary puppy! Fingers crossed I'll be as good at raising and giving back as I think I'll be and don't get too, too attached.

I mean, who could say no?! So cute. And it's been nearly eight years since I've had a Toller puppy. I have no willpower haha.

 
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This last weekend we spent Saturday at an agility match. There was a lady there that I see around with a young border collie- very beautiful fast dog. Summer was all about trying to go say hi to this particular lady all day. Finally we were watching the rest of our class run and the lady was sitting on a cooler nearby. Before I knew it, Summer was in her lap giving her kisses.

I went to apologize and the lady told me not to and explained to me that her papillon had just recently passed away 2 weeks ago. She missed him and said he was the most intuitive, caring dog she'd had in her life. She missed how attuned to her he was. Summer sat in her lap for a long time while she told me about her dog. We agreed they're a wonderful, intelligent breed.

Summer does stuff like that all the time. She is drawn to all people of course but seems to pick out those that need her. I've had many total strangers sit there with Summer on their laps, telling me all about their lost beloved dog.
That's amazing <3 What a nice story!!!

Sometimes it pays to have a breeder who likes you lol. I might have found a cure for my puppy fever but inability to take on another permanent dog. I think I'm going to raise/grow out a Toller puppy for a breeder as she wants to keep a couple at the moment. Yay temporary puppy! Fingers crossed I'll be as good at raising and giving back as I think I'll be and don't get too, too attached.

I mean, who could say no?! So cute. And it's been nearly eight years since I've had a Toller puppy. I have no willpower haha.

OMG LOOK AT THAT BABY!!!!!!

Omg you guys, do you see this down-stay? This totally happened outside of my house/yard.
YAY! :D
 

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Sometimes it pays to have a breeder who likes you lol. I might have found a cure for my puppy fever but inability to take on another permanent dog. I think I'm going to raise/grow out a Toller puppy for a breeder as she wants to keep a couple at the moment. Yay temporary puppy! Fingers crossed I'll be as good at raising and giving back as I think I'll be and don't get too, too attached.

I mean, who could say no?! So cute. And it's been nearly eight years since I've had a Toller puppy. I have no willpower haha.

STAHP! I want my toller puppy like yesterday...
 

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Sometimes it pays to have a breeder who likes you lol. I might have found a cure for my puppy fever but inability to take on another permanent dog. I think I'm going to raise/grow out a Toller puppy for a breeder as she wants to keep a couple at the moment. Yay temporary puppy! Fingers crossed I'll be as good at raising and giving back as I think I'll be and don't get too, too attached.

I mean, who could say no?! So cute. And it's been nearly eight years since I've had a Toller puppy. I have no willpower haha.

Good luck!... Patton was my first foray with puppy raising and I caved after two days. Lmao. I got better the second and third time around, though...
 

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Talon's x-rays revealed he has mild-moderate hip dysplasia in both hips :( The vet had explained everything to me and I saw the x-rays. I think it was his right being worse off than the left. Unfortunately, this explains his intermittent limping, funny gait, and lack of muscle in his hind end.

I'm so incredibly sad. :( My vet gave me the go ahead to continue disc with him, but to try and keep things short and low. Mostly because he felt Talon's love for disc outweighed the possible benefits from keeping him away from it at this point. I just.....the more I think about it the more I see when we play disc he generally ends up lame on more occasions than I'd like. Then the other times he usually a bit sore/stiff the following days. It seems that even though his HD isn't too bad, he feels it more.

I just want to cry at this point. I had already signed him up for an agility class in December. He was finally to the point I felt we would really excel. His reactivity is almost completely under control even with other dogs running/barking, his drive is definitely there, and his impulse control has gotten much better.

Now I have a dog who has the drive and energy to do things that I don't know if I should let him do it or just not. :(
 

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Talon's x-rays revealed he has mild-moderate hip dysplasia in both hips :( The vet had explained everything to me and I saw the x-rays. I think it was his right being worse off than the left. Unfortunately, this explains his intermittent limping, funny gait, and lack of muscle in his hind end.

I'm so incredibly sad. :( My vet gave me the go ahead to continue disc with him, but to try and keep things short and low. Mostly because he felt Talon's love for disc outweighed the possible benefits from keeping him away from it at this point. I just.....the more I think about it the more I see when we play disc he generally ends up lame on more occasions than I'd like. Then the other times he usually a bit sore/stiff the following days. It seems that even though his HD isn't too bad, he feels it more.

I just want to cry at this point. I had already signed him up for an agility class in December. He was finally to the point I felt we would really excel. His reactivity is almost completely under control even with other dogs running/barking, his drive is definitely there, and his impulse control has gotten much better.

Now I have a dog who has the drive and energy to do things that I don't know if I should let him do it or just not. :(
I'm so sorry :(
 

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Talon's x-rays revealed he has mild-moderate hip dysplasia in both hips :(
I'm so sorry! Briz has always been like this too, heart and soul of an athlete without the body to match. If you haven't already, look into conditioning and muscle-building. The more muscley he gets, the better he can support his iffy joints.


He is such a bazaar looking dog, but in a good way not a bad way, I love his looks!
Thanks! He is possibly even more eye-catching in person, he positively oozes charisma and charm.
 

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Talon's x-rays revealed he has mild-moderate hip dysplasia in both hips :( The vet had explained everything to me and I saw the x-rays. I think it was his right being worse off than the left. Unfortunately, this explains his intermittent limping, funny gait, and lack of muscle in his hind end.

I'm so incredibly sad. :( My vet gave me the go ahead to continue disc with him, but to try and keep things short and low. Mostly because he felt Talon's love for disc outweighed the possible benefits from keeping him away from it at this point. I just.....the more I think about it the more I see when we play disc he generally ends up lame on more occasions than I'd like. Then the other times he usually a bit sore/stiff the following days. It seems that even though his HD isn't too bad, he feels it more.

I just want to cry at this point. I had already signed him up for an agility class in December. He was finally to the point I felt we would really excel. His reactivity is almost completely under control even with other dogs running/barking, his drive is definitely there, and his impulse control has gotten much better.

Now I have a dog who has the drive and energy to do things that I don't know if I should let him do it or just not. :(
How would you explain his gait? Josefina paces and swings her legs in a outward circle and it's getting worse as she gets older, she doesn't show that she is in pain but with dogs that doesn't really mean anything.
 

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I GOT TO PLAY WITH PUPPIES.

Two 5.5 week old Lab/Pit mixes who are currently being fostered and need homes.

OMIGOD. PUPPIES.

Lucky for me, the one I liked was male. Or I'd have a puppy right now. For serious. OMIGOD. Puppy. PUPPY. Spunky, back talking, sassy, curious, have-no-fear PUPPY. (The female was more of the sit back and observe type. Which I apparently don't like, because while my coworkers were cuddling with her and cooing over her I was all like, "BUT GUYS, LOOK AT WHAT THIS BLACK ONE IS GETTING INTO NOW OMIGOD SO CUTE HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THIS!" :rofl1:
 

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I'm so sorry! Briz has always been like this too, heart and soul of an athlete without the body to match. If you haven't already, look into conditioning and muscle-building. The more muscley he gets, the better he can support his iffy joints.
Thank you both.

How would you explain his gait? Josefina paces and swings her legs in a outward circle and it's getting worse as she gets older, she doesn't show that she is in pain but with dogs that doesn't really mean anything.

His gait seems to be a bit of a swinging motion, but it's not super pronounced. When he goes up stairs he hunches over a bit, mainly because he's using his front end to pull himself up rather than his back end to push upward. With him it was really hard for me to tell which leg was the problem, and now I know that's because it's both sides. :(

I'm horrible at explaining his gait, I'm going to get a video of it (mostly for me to see how it looks from a different prospectiv) and i can post it.
 
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The was a papillon in our agility class yesterday and seeing Foxy side by side with one makes me think she definitely has pap in her. The papillon's owner agreed and was surprised her dog seemed to like Foxy since apparently she doesn't usually care for other dogs. I think it's because she accepted Foxy as one of her own :p Really cool dog though and I'd love to own a pap in the future!
 

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Talon's x-rays revealed he has mild-moderate hip dysplasia in both hips The vet had explained everything to me and I saw the x-rays. I think it was his right being worse off than the left. Unfortunately, this explains his intermittent limping, funny gait, and lack of muscle in his hind end.

I'm so incredibly sad. My vet gave me the go ahead to continue disc with him, but to try and keep things short and low. Mostly because he felt Talon's love for disc outweighed the possible benefits from keeping him away from it at this point. I just.....the more I think about it the more I see when we play disc he generally ends up lame on more occasions than I'd like. Then the other times he usually a bit sore/stiff the following days. It seems that even though his HD isn't too bad, he feels it more.

I just want to cry at this point. I had already signed him up for an agility class in December. He was finally to the point I felt we would really excel. His reactivity is almost completely under control even with other dogs running/barking, his drive is definitely there, and his impulse control has gotten much better.

Now I have a dog who has the drive and energy to do things that I don't know if I should let him do it or just not.
I'm so sorry. I've been in a little bit of the same boat these past few months with Gusto. He's had two front end lamenesses (separated by about 18 months) that wound up with a diagnosis of elbow dysplasia. My dog with over 3 years of serious agility training already in the bag.

It took me a couple of weeks to be able to be really rational about it. And of course every dog and issue is different. But for what it is worth, here's what I've been doing.

1) Second opinion. I initially went out of state to a ortho/rehab vet I know through sports. I found (what I thought was) a rehab vet closer to home for the recommended rehab/physical therapy (basically build his muscle as much and as appropriately as possible). That person wasn't actually a vet as advertised, so I got to see the more local ortho vet as well. He actually read the x-rays differently, and wasn't even willing to call what he saw dysplasia. So I have two different opinions, but both recommended basically the same plan.

2) Fish oil. Dasuquin (recommended by both only when I pushed for something beyond fish oil because I wanted to do MORE - fish oil was the first recommendation from both; that was the 'if you need to do another supplement, this one is the most likely to be what is advertised'). Continuing to work on hind end and core strength. Good warm up routines and icing if he works harder than usual. I got one of these: http://www.canineicer.com/ because trying to hold an ice pack on Gusto is like trying to juggle live fish. I really like the fit, and he tolerates it well.

3) The first vet offered both PRP, arthroscopic surgery, and HA joint injections as options. She did not seem completely sold on him needing surgery, and based on the recovery period, I had pretty much written it off before seeing the second vet. He really advised against it and didn't even think joint injections were a good option right now - he felt there was too much good cartilage that might get in the way of even the smallest needle.

It just sucks and is so heartbreaking to realize that you may have to completely change your future to do what you need to for your dog. I have spoken to so many people, and made a plan that I'm comfortable with. And it still involves Gusto being a competitive agility dog, at least for now. I've adjusted my training some, adjusted my management, and crossed a few things off my list that we used to do (zero playing fetch with a chuck-it, which has triggered his acute lameness; we don't drill, or even really train, the a-frame anymore, although he will see it a few times before trials and obviously at trials). And if I need to rethink things based on seeing more issues, I will.

I couldn't have even begun to be rational about it for the first couple of weeks, and I needed to talk it through with a lot of people - vets, trainers, competitors who have dogs with ED. I basically waited until I could discuss it without crying, and then started trying to really formulate the plan. So give yourself some time to be bummed, and then research, get other opinions, whatever you need to do to be comfortable with the decisions you make.
 

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The amount of people who are amazed that Hank has both black and brown spots on him... :lol-sign:

DSC_1441 by summerpapillons, on Flickr
Rigby does too! Though not to Hank's extent :p
Black spots on the chest, brown on the paws. It's weird though...when we first got her there was very little ticking on her chest and the ticking on her paws was quite prominent.
Now the ticking on her chest has become way more visible and the paw spots are difficult to see in some lighting.

Hank is such an awesome little guy! I'm so glad he's fitting in so well :)
 
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