The American Vet Society of Animal Behavior Speaks out against Milan type trainers

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Redyre...

You are a newbie in many other forums.......due to that.....are you worthless?
You know what, if you came here to sling mud you'd better stop that train in its tracks. YOU have brought a fight with your words, so if you don't want anyone to defend themselves or continue with the conversation that YOU have started, I suggest you tuck your tail and move on NOW. This forum does not take kindly to people jumping in and seemingly harassing established members.
 

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Did I say any of those things?
No.. but I don't understand what you DO mean. That is why I am asking for clarification. So you say that people should pretend that every breed is a smushy dog like goldens? That people should not be honest about their breed's tendancies?

If being honest helps dogs have a bad rap then we are in huge trouble here on chaz :D

IMO it does a breed a far greater disservice to pretend that a rottie (or a dobe, or a JRT) is a smushy breed. Then people get them, try to be Milan or some other crackpot or simply don't take care and get bit. Then you here about how bad that breed is.

Many people hate JRTs. And from their point of view its quite justified. BUT if the people getting the JRT in the first place new what they were getting into then either they wouldn't have got the dog OR would have taken steps to train the dog and educate themselves.
 
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Redyre Rottweilers said:
<<<<,I have a couple of dogs here who would not take kindly to having fingers jabbed at them, or being hissed at.

As one of my friends, says, "You better be ready". >>>>>>
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I was responding to this statement......it is almost a threat......
So, that is why certain breeds get a bad reputation....


no, that is not why certain breeds get a bad reputation. They get a bad reputation by being bred and sold by careless ignorant avaricious people to the wrong people who then allow dogs to end up in situations where bad things happen. Media coverage and other public exposure is what fuels the public's attitude and perception of certain breeds. I spend hours every single week having my dogs out in the public eye presenting a positive image. I am also a pretty visible presence on the net, again, posting photographs and video clips which present the Rottweiler in a positive light.

I made the statement that I have some dogs here who would not be amused with someone who confronted them with behaviors that CM often uses in his "training". My dogs are Rottweilers. Granted, they are well bred, socialized, trained, and behaved, however, they are still Rottweilers. They would not tolerate this sort of gross disrespect by a stranger without standing up to it. That is part of what makes them a Rottweiler, and not say, a Labrador Retriever.

I would not expect my dogs to lunge at and bite someone who behaved in this manner, however, I would not be the slightest bit surprised if they advanced, with direct eye contact and a bark or a growl.

My dogs are well trained and easily controlled, however, they are Rottweilers of correct temperament.

Nothing I stated in my post was any sort of threat, only facts about my personal dogs, and the breed of my choice.

All those out there who think it's a good idea to point fingers, hiss at, stomp feet, and in general make obnoxious dominant threat displays to Rottweilers, raise your hand.

:rolleyes:
 

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<<<In short your preaching to the choir on this forum about rescues because rescues are promoting and encouraged by all. >>>

I didn't realize I was preaching......
"Preaching to the choir" is an expression. It means that you're trying to convince people of something they already agree with.
 
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You know what, if you came here to sling mud you'd better stop that train in its tracks. YOU have brought a fight with your words, so if you don't want anyone to defend themselves or continue with the conversation that YOU have started, I suggest you tuck your tail and move on NOW. This forum does not take kindly to people jumping in and seemingly harassing established members.

I was slinging mud???

Go check your ego.....and check my posts.....maybe you will get a clue!
 

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I was slinging mud???

Go check your ego.....and check my posts.....maybe you will get a clue!
You were. Actually, let me rephrase, I said "if you came here to sling mud". So it appears you were and thus I was merely warning you.

Ego. Check.

Posts. Check.

Clue. Check.

You.... working on it. ;) Perhaps you should read the forum rules so that you can get a clue. :)
 
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No.. but I don't understand what you DO mean. That is why I am asking for clarification. So you say that people should pretend that every breed is a smushy dog like goldens? That people should not be honest about their breed's tendancies?

If being honest helps dogs have a bad rap then we are in huge trouble here on chaz :D

IMO it does a breed a far greater disservice to pretend that a rottie (or a dobe, or a JRT) is a smushy breed. Then people get them, try to be Milan or some other crackpot or simply don't take care and get bit. Then you here about how bad that breed is.

Many people hate JRTs. And from their point of view its quite justified. BUT if the people getting the JRT in the first place new what they were getting into then either they wouldn't have got the dog OR would have taken steps to train the dog and educate themselves.
Once again, did I say anything like what you posted?
 
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You were. Actually, let me rephrase, I said "if you came here to sling mud". So it appears you were and thus I was merely warning you.

Ego. Check.

Posts. Check.

Clue. Check.

You.... working on it. ;) Perhaps you should read the forum rules so that you can get a clue. :)
My appologies for re- posting this.....
SO, a member posted the above and by that member's statement I was slinging mud.....hmmmm.....

AND a warning no less....
 

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your talking to a mod genius.

I think the point everyone is making is not to say negative things about established member or you will be met with strong disagreement, so don't be surprised if no one sided with you.
And just not a member that is established but one that is respected and admired for their breeding practices, knowledge and accomplishments.
 

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