Spanking in schools, why is this still allowed?
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I wish there were more teachers who wanted to get to know their students instead of a quick in and out. Thats what makes a good teacher, one who cares if the learning is effective and sinking in. Its not about not enough time its about passion for their job. I have been fortunate to have teachers in the past that took heart to know all their students and hear their side and did what needed to be done.
This is not aimed at any post; I am just thinking back when I was in school and what was effective for me and what wasn't. I feel too many kids slip through the cracks and go on as being invisible. I was treated like that at one school and got all D's. Went to a different school where teachers paid attention to what I was grasping and what I wasn't and took the time to help me see it from a different angle and than I started getting all A's and B's. This is just from an average frustrated, dislike of school and unpopular kid.
I feel being a good teacher calls for passion not just for teaching but also for the people and yes there is time. My classes were average of 30 people each and 4 switches throughout the day and changes with each semester, probably the same with any high school. I feel when kids get this treatment from teachers it doesn't solve but it does help the kids to behave, why, because they like the teacher and start to like school.
When my hubby was in school he was exceptionally smart. He got bad grades because the school subjects and work was so boring to him. He couldn't focus or have the want to do thew work. He would always get the highest test scores but never did the worksheets or homework which is a big percentage of grade. I felt if teachers paid more attention to him and gave him what he needed he would of gotten better grades and scholarships offered. Instead he was ignored and they said whatever and he dropped out of school because he couldn't take what was to him extremely boring and dumb. Of course he went back and got his GED and went on to college.
This is not aimed at any post; I am just thinking back when I was in school and what was effective for me and what wasn't. I feel too many kids slip through the cracks and go on as being invisible. I was treated like that at one school and got all D's. Went to a different school where teachers paid attention to what I was grasping and what I wasn't and took the time to help me see it from a different angle and than I started getting all A's and B's. This is just from an average frustrated, dislike of school and unpopular kid.
I feel being a good teacher calls for passion not just for teaching but also for the people and yes there is time. My classes were average of 30 people each and 4 switches throughout the day and changes with each semester, probably the same with any high school. I feel when kids get this treatment from teachers it doesn't solve but it does help the kids to behave, why, because they like the teacher and start to like school.
When my hubby was in school he was exceptionally smart. He got bad grades because the school subjects and work was so boring to him. He couldn't focus or have the want to do thew work. He would always get the highest test scores but never did the worksheets or homework which is a big percentage of grade. I felt if teachers paid more attention to him and gave him what he needed he would of gotten better grades and scholarships offered. Instead he was ignored and they said whatever and he dropped out of school because he couldn't take what was to him extremely boring and dumb. Of course he went back and got his GED and went on to college.
I absolutely and positively am against spanking being allowed in schools. Why? Because my best friends daughter went to one of these schools and came home with welts and large bruises on her rear. She is now a completely different child. And not in a good way she is not extremely untrusting of her mother and school authority. My friend has moved her to a different school because her daughter was too terrified to go back to school.
If I ever have children yes I most likely will swat their behinds from time to time. But I will NEVER trust a stranger to know what is too hard of a smack and take it too far. You don't really know who these people are you are trusting to paddle your child.
And why was the little girl beaten so severly? She had refused to get in front of the class and do her presentation. The girl suffers from social anxiety disorder and I guess she threw a fit when the teacher tried to force her to the front of the room. And so she was punished.
If I ever have children yes I most likely will swat their behinds from time to time. But I will NEVER trust a stranger to know what is too hard of a smack and take it too far. You don't really know who these people are you are trusting to paddle your child.
And why was the little girl beaten so severly? She had refused to get in front of the class and do her presentation. The girl suffers from social anxiety disorder and I guess she threw a fit when the teacher tried to force her to the front of the room. And so she was punished.
I don't think teachers should execute corporal punishment in school.
There are too many gray zones. What constitutes a spanking and what doesn't? Kids feel that parents, teachers, etc are "unfair" all the time, if you put spanking in the middle of it at school, it might backfire.
What if the parents are against spanking? Should the government enforce its policies on your child and how you raise it even more?
There are too many gray zones. What constitutes a spanking and what doesn't? Kids feel that parents, teachers, etc are "unfair" all the time, if you put spanking in the middle of it at school, it might backfire.
What if the parents are against spanking? Should the government enforce its policies on your child and how you raise it even more?
I don't know so much about spanking in schools, but something needs to be done. Bring back the non-physical punishments of old...writing lines, having to clean bathrooms, sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on or something like that.
I might be going the home-school route with my kids, depending on how schools go in the next 10-15 years or so.
I might be going the home-school route with my kids, depending on how schools go in the next 10-15 years or so.
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I cant believe in this day and age, spanking is still allowed in schools. Its crazy that parents are even allowing this to go on. THAT is my opinion.
Whether you believe in spanking or not, it is your right as a parent to make that call, but to give someone you do NOT know the power to put their hands on YOUR children is not right in my eyes.
I bet there is a higher percentage of sexual abuse within schools who use such punishment. I've read studies about this. I'm sorry, but no man is going to put their hands on my daughters butt OR use an object to do so.
You do not know how hard they are being hit or if your child did anything to even deserve it. My mom was paddled in kindergarten. WHY? Because another student accused her of opening her eyes during nap time.
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When I went to school, the kids acted just fine. Not many problems at all. And guess what? Spankings were not allowed in my school. Go figure.
I am not intending to offend anyone here. This is just my own personal opinion.
I cant believe in this day and age, spanking is still allowed in schools. Its crazy that parents are even allowing this to go on. THAT is my opinion.
Whether you believe in spanking or not, it is your right as a parent to make that call, but to give someone you do NOT know the power to put their hands on YOUR children is not right in my eyes.
I bet there is a higher percentage of sexual abuse within schools who use such punishment. I've read studies about this. I'm sorry, but no man is going to put their hands on my daughters butt OR use an object to do so.
You do not know how hard they are being hit or if your child did anything to even deserve it. My mom was paddled in kindergarten. WHY? Because another student accused her of opening her eyes during nap time.
. When I went to school, the kids acted just fine. Not many problems at all. And guess what? Spankings were not allowed in my school. Go figure.
I am not intending to offend anyone here. This is just my own personal opinion.
My uncle was "put on leave" for separating 2 boys fighting - the whole physical contact thing. He quit teaching; and he was an awesome teacher; said he'd had enough of the garbage that he as a teacher had to put up with.
I have physically intervened when I knew the teacher couldn't. My son (6 at the time) was playing and the thug bully in his class wouldn't leave him alone. Mitch tried all the reasoning; talking, tell someone stuff; even took a fall so the teacher could see; but the little brat wouldn't stop punching, pushing; etc. Mitchie is a real mellow kid; with a great heart; so I wasn't going to stand for that; and wasn't going to rely on the old adage of standing up for yourself.
I was watching and finally they were lined up by the fence; knapsacks on and the kid moves in line so can stand behind Mitch and push and shove some more. Not on my watch, buster! I leaned over the fence; picked up the little jerk by his knapsack straps and growled at him - You see that kid there - pointed at Mitch - he's mine; everything about him is mine; and I don't like nobody touching my stuff; so you'd best keep your hands to yourself - rolling eyes from the thug -- Understand - nodded assent; dropped him to his feet and stepped back. Nodded at Mitch and waited. Kids all went home or to daycare and the teacher approached me and thanked me.
Since then, little thug boy has waffled between being Mitch's friend and ignoring him; but no more physical contact.
My best friend dealt with her boy in a cute way; gr. 8/9 he was informed about children's rights and came home and announced to his mother that she couldn't discipline him physically anymore; and if she yelled at him; it was mental stress; verbal abuse (i know this kid; if he ever got more than 3 whacks in his life it would be amazing); so she turned to him and said; Yes son, I understand; if you feel I've been unfair or abusive to you; here is the number for Family and Children's Services; we'll pack your bags and have them pick you up; but I'm keeping your ATV, your toys, clothes, video games, movies, CDs; etc.; since you haven't paid for them; they are technically mine and they will stay at the house when you leave.
Never another peep out of him about the topic!
I have physically intervened when I knew the teacher couldn't. My son (6 at the time) was playing and the thug bully in his class wouldn't leave him alone. Mitch tried all the reasoning; talking, tell someone stuff; even took a fall so the teacher could see; but the little brat wouldn't stop punching, pushing; etc. Mitchie is a real mellow kid; with a great heart; so I wasn't going to stand for that; and wasn't going to rely on the old adage of standing up for yourself.
I was watching and finally they were lined up by the fence; knapsacks on and the kid moves in line so can stand behind Mitch and push and shove some more. Not on my watch, buster! I leaned over the fence; picked up the little jerk by his knapsack straps and growled at him - You see that kid there - pointed at Mitch - he's mine; everything about him is mine; and I don't like nobody touching my stuff; so you'd best keep your hands to yourself - rolling eyes from the thug -- Understand - nodded assent; dropped him to his feet and stepped back. Nodded at Mitch and waited. Kids all went home or to daycare and the teacher approached me and thanked me.
Since then, little thug boy has waffled between being Mitch's friend and ignoring him; but no more physical contact.
My best friend dealt with her boy in a cute way; gr. 8/9 he was informed about children's rights and came home and announced to his mother that she couldn't discipline him physically anymore; and if she yelled at him; it was mental stress; verbal abuse (i know this kid; if he ever got more than 3 whacks in his life it would be amazing); so she turned to him and said; Yes son, I understand; if you feel I've been unfair or abusive to you; here is the number for Family and Children's Services; we'll pack your bags and have them pick you up; but I'm keeping your ATV, your toys, clothes, video games, movies, CDs; etc.; since you haven't paid for them; they are technically mine and they will stay at the house when you leave.
Never another peep out of him about the topic!
I think its crazy. While I am not totally opposed to the idea of spanking it is actually not the best means of discipline for most kids. In many/most situations it just doesnt work that's why I dont understand why its the "go-to" form of punishment for SO many parents. I believe there is a place for spanking in the process of raising children but too many parents get lazy and want to swat/paddle their kids for EVERYTHING when it obviously isnt working. There is usually a better, more effective way to acheive your goal. I mean, come on be a little more creative with your consequences for misbehavior. There are many things a kid will hate more than a spanking.
Also no one will spank my children but me, ever. And as far as I know in schools that practice spanking the parents have to sign a release form so it isnt like they just goa round smacking kids whenever, lol. but I am still opposed to that.
Also no one will spank my children but me, ever. And as far as I know in schools that practice spanking the parents have to sign a release form so it isnt like they just goa round smacking kids whenever, lol. but I am still opposed to that.