Say hello to my lil' friend!

[noludoru]

I don't think I am at all. Considering I feed my dogs meat, and I am not trying to convert anyone.Simply stating I find it sad. and horrible.

Would you be so supportive if someone from a country where they eat dogs, posted pictures of their dog they plan on killing and eating?

I hope not.

Yes. I would. I probably would shy away from the thread altogether, because I view dogs as pets and really don't like the idea of killing them, but I have become a lot more open-minded and don't think it's acceptable to flame someone for a CULTURAL NORM. It is how they were RAISED. And you would go into their threads and tell them they were horrible? Shame on you.

IMHO, it is dishonoring their memory to pretend they don't exist. To pretend that their flesh magically appeared out of some wizard's wand, and that no loss of life was involved. It's disappointing how disconnected people are from their and their pet's food.

That's a different way to put it.. I will have to think about that. Thanks for such a thoughtful post, Romy.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

because I view dogs as pets

And I view Romy's "Livestock" as pets .

 

[PWCorgi]

Would you be so supportive if someone from a country where they eat dogs, posted pictures of their dog they plan on killing and eating?

I hope not.

Actually I do know someone who eats dogs. She's from Vietnam and continues to eat dog here in the U.S., and yes, she prepares them herself. Is it something I would ever do? No, but I don't condemn her for how she chooses to live. I've met the dogs she has before, they're happy and well taken care of. I'd rather see a dog live a happy life and end up on a plate than live out their lives in the filth of a puppy mill, but maybe that's just me.

Romy, :hail: x2

As for the nursing home bit, there is actually a charity where professional photographers are matched with families who have children on life support or who they know are going to die. The photographer comes in and takes pictures before the death. Do you find this cruel as well? They know the child is going to die and make the decision to have pictures taken anyway...

 

[PWCorgi]

I have had guinea pigs as pets over the years and I plan on feeding my dogs guinea pigs. If I have the time and space I plan on one day breeding them for food. I see nothing wrong with this either, though I know some people find it wrong. I don't see how it's any of your business how I decide to live my life as long as I am not hurting anyone.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

Did I once say I thought it was cruel to feed the chick to your dog? NO. I did not, and I do not think its cruel. All I said was I don't find it very nice to post an animal who you are going to kills picture up and then make jokes about killing it. To each his own I suppose. NOTHING wrong with me posting my views on any subject. I don't know how (For the second time) people all of sudden make me AGAINST something I am NOT against.

I am NOT against people raising meat for their dogs. and I am not necessarily against posting the picture online, i just find it sad. Just because others don't, doesn't mean I am some person from PETA posting videos of animals being slaughtered and trying to convert people. I can post a simple opinion online without it being bashed.

 

[PWCorgi]

Then why even comment in my thread in the first place? Why come into a thread just to say that what I'm doing is so sad? If you don't like it then don't look.

 

[borzoimom]

When I was a younger teenager, the people that boarded my horse had a young calf. He was cool. We use to feed him every day and enjoyed him quite a bit. One day he left. At the time I was told he was 'sold into the market'. Not knowing what that meant, thought little of it as many animals there would leave to be sold at some time or another. About two weeks later, I arrived in their kitchen after a ride and the Mrs. asked me if I wanted a hamburger.. Well shoot- I was starving so why not.. Half way through my eating she informed or made a reference to it being the veal.. I must say it took me back a little bit. However- I can say this- while he was uh used for food, I know he lived a good life while he was alive. And they had a small freezer full of meat. Surely no one thinks meat just shows up out of no where. And to be cared for properly, even if sited as being food in the future, well.. that being said..
PW- while others might be horrified by this, at least you care for your " little charge" while you have him. Alot of people do not, and at least you care enough to even photograph him/her. All things have a destiny- in one way or another... ( I never knew the chickens that filled their 'destiny' in my freezer food for my dogs..they came that way to us..)

 

[Punkygirl0101]

Then why even comment in my thread in the first place? Why come into a thread just to say that what I'm doing is so sad? If you don't like it then don't look.

Because I see nothing wrong with posting my opinion. Its not against forum rules to post your opinion because the op may not like it. Just like its not against forum rules for you to post this thread because some people may not like it.

 

[PWCorgi]

I see nothing wrong with you posting your opinion either, though I do think that it may have been more appropriate for you to start a thread of your own about how photographing livestock is sad. That's usually common internet courtesy.

 

[xpaeanx]

:rofl1:

and last night when you said you had a chick that wouldn't stop peeping the first thing I said was "feed it to a corgi" and now your getting grief in your thread! :rofl1:

 

[noludoru]

Did I once say I thought it was cruel to feed the chick to your dog? NO. I did not, and I do not think its cruel. All I said was I don't find it very nice to post an animal who you are going to kills picture up and then make jokes about killing it. To each his own I suppose. NOTHING wrong with me posting my views on any subject. I don't know how (For the second time) people all of sudden make me AGAINST something I am NOT against.

I am NOT against people raising meat for their dogs. and I am not necessarily against posting the picture online, i just find it sad. Just because others don't, doesn't mean I am some person from PETA posting videos of animals being slaughtered and trying to convert people. I can post a simple opinion online without it being bashed.

What you said was that you think it is horrible. Which is pretty offensive to the OP. As to the bolded bit, I PMed you several times politely attempting to explain my opinion and clearing up what I did and did not accuse you of. Perhaps if you had actually read those PMs you wouldn't still have your head in the sand, claiming that I said you said something you actually didn't. The time for discussing that was then, and you refused, so please don't bring it up now and play the woe is me card.

And if you don't want to get bashed for your "simple opinion" which was RUDELY put in this thread, start another thread for it.

Because I see nothing wrong with posting my opinion. Its not against forum rules to post your opinion because the op may not like it. Just like its not against forum rules for you to post this thread because some people may not like it.

But it's exceedingly rude. If you don't like people being rude back, please don't do it in the first place.

 

[dr2little]

Seriously.. Eating dog in the U.S, and that's OK how?

I have to admit that when I clicked on the picture and then found out what that little creature's destiny was, it made me sad too. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I do however find however that the callous nature of how we feel about the 'livestock' we consume is beyond the pale.

I find nothing funny about talking about animals like they have no consciousness or feelings simply because we (or our dogs) will consume them.

This thread has taken on such a lack of compassion, that at the very least is something we should all feel for any living (or soon to be dead) animal.

This is not meant to anyone in particular but this entire thread, which I too am entitled to read and have an opinion on, is very cold.

Sorry if I've offended anyone...I wasn't going to post here but I just felt I had to.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

Amen to dr2little.

She worded it better than I did, but the lack of compassion for this animal is what I find sad.

 

[borzoimom]

Amen to dr2little.

She worded it better than I did, but the lack of compassion for this animal is what I find sad.

I understand what you are saying ... However- if one of my sighthounds found this little animal... uh that would be allllllllllll she wrote.. Sad but true..

 

[xpaeanx]

What I think is sad, is not someone who is raising livestock to feed to another animal. It's that this particular animal is being raised completey "free range" with none of that crap food that huge companies like perdue use. This chick is very happy, and will continue to be as long as it lives. It will then go on to do what nature intended it to.

If you want to feel sad about something, feel bad about the animals major companies raise. they're locked in small crates, feed disgusting food, and look extremely sickly. Hell, at the perdue farms they run chicks over with tractors all the time and don't care. That chick just gets thrown out.

And no(aside from chicken and seafood) I do not eat meat. Even those I eat sparingly. yet I am completley fine with animals being raised for food. As long as they're given a good life until the day they die, I see nothing wrong or sad about it.

 

[Dakotah]

Amen to that Dr2Little.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

yet I am
completley fine with animals being raised for food. As long as they're given a
good life until the day they die, I see nothing wrong or sad about it.

Again, I never said I was against animals being raised for food. .

 

[Angel Chicken]

How is not viewing the chick as a pet not compassionate?

This is how it goes down, and this is how my parents taught me (I too, thought it was sad and cruel to kill animals for food).

Momma gets a cow. She puts it in the pen, and tells the kids to leave it alone. The kids don't leave it alone, and they get attached. The cow gets fat all through the summer, and winter time comes, and the cow gets killed. The kids are sad, they cry and mourn.

THAT is why there is a "lack of compassion". If you do get attached to animals that are meant to be food, your going to end up being saddened in the end when it's killed for this winter's food.

 

[xpaeanx]

Again, I never said I was against animals being raised for food. .

no, but your saying that taking pics of them is cruel. Dr2little is saying we have no compassion for them.

But compassion for the animals is not shown in taking or not taking pics, it's not shown by saying "this animal is being raised for food." Compassion is shown by what you do to the animal. PW's chicky is having a great life. One that is MUCH MUCH nicer than any commerical chicklet would ever dream is possible. IMO that is compassion. Giving the animal a quality of life, even though you know that life will be a short one.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

no, but your saying that taking pics of them is cruel.

And I still do think its cruel, and shows lack of compassion. This thread wasn't made in a "nice" way sharing photography of a baby chick. It was made with lack of compassion. And certain comments made afterward were childish and also show lack of compassion for the animals being used to feed humans.