Rottweiler Needing a home

[Patiencez]

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semi-agressive rottweiler. HELP PLEASE!!! - Topix

we have a sweet 10 month old rottie. He is great with kids and other animals. Problem is he has some food agression and bit my father yesterday for no reason. We don't want to put him in a shelter because they will kill any dog that bites. what can we do??? we'd love to find an owner for him that has land and wants a great guard dog. please help us save him!!!!!!

Thanks

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

:nono:

What on earth do you think someone is going to do with this puppy who has already bitten someone for no reason?

Do YOU want the dog? There is no way to tell without a hands on evaluation what you are dealing with in this situation. It could be a puppy that just needs some training, or it could be a dog of incorrect temperament that is dangerous and untrainable.

The OWNERS should have some balls and either train the dog or destroy it, not pass it on to who knows WHO so it can bite and injure someone else.

 

[Patiencez]

Oh I am sorry,
I thought from the way everyone talks this forum was all about saving the dog. with all the tranportation list an all.an What does anyone realy know about the dogs they rescue? People never telling the truth when they get rid of a Dog anyway.

I thought this was a place you could go too for help. I have been lucky in most cases to get one person to answer one of my post.I guess you all have youre own little clicks...

I really hope that you guys don't treat all new people that way.

 

[AGonzalez]

Patience, it's nothing personal. Just a potentially dangerous dog does not need to be "rehomed". That's failure on the owners part. Nobody wants that kind of liability.

You wouldn't want to rehome a pitbull that bites people because it just further degrades the breed i nthe eyes of the public. It's the same thing with a Rottweiler. Because of their size a dog that has already bitten does not need to be rehomed to anybody to be honest.

It sounds like resource guarding, but you never know. You wouldn't want to be responsible for rehoming a dog that bites somebody's face off and all that would do is further drag the entire breed through the mud because if "one bites, they all bite" is the general consensus among the non-dog saavy.

 

[eddieq]

Stick around Patiencez. As Camp said, it's not personal. You happened to hit a nerve with Red, though. She's got a great heart and is super knowledgeable about dogs in general and especially Rotties. Situations like this person trying to rehome this dog tend to set her off. Red is passionate about her breed and she often lacks a filter :rofl1:

No cliques, just passion.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

OMG EQ, now I know what it is. I need a filter. Def. nothing personal Patienz, I just cannot stand the thought of another dog with poor temperament, and a known bite risk at TEN MONTHS OLD being passed along to do harm and cause another black mark for my breed.

There are too many others who need homes who do not come with built in issues.

 

[Patiencez]

OMG EQ, now I know what it is. I need a filter. Def. nothing personal Patienz, I just cannot stand the thought of another dog with poor temperament, and a known bite risk at TEN MONTHS OLD being passed along to do harm and cause another black mark for my breed.

There are too many others who need homes who do not come with built in issues.

I guess my Love for the breed clouded my judgement,mine at 10 months were just big old loveble pups.well trained I might add.to think there life has to end at 10 months old just makes me so **** Mad.

But I have read on here many times there never to old to learn. I guess thats what I was thinking.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

It is very sad, very VERY sad. This puppy has been failed by many. His breeder. His current owners. The breeder(s) who sold the dogs who are the parents of this puppy.

Responsibility starts with the selection of the homes, and people fell down on the job where this pup is concerned.

Very sad.

 

[Patiencez]

They are Just the most awesome Dogs, GSD being Second.
an I understand I get pretty irate over them to.
But I think any an all no mater what the breed should be trained the basics

Hope we didn't get off on the wrong foot.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Not at all! My anger is directed to the person's responsible for neglecting the education and upbringing of this puppy. I really hope they wake up and realize that rehoming him at this point is not a good idea.

We will be GREAT friends, after all, we admire the same marvelous breed.

 

[eddieq]

OMG EQ, now I know what it is. I need a filter.

Happy to be of service, sweetie! :thumbup:

 

[Tazwell]

You never know. Like any other breed: Lab, golden, chihuahua, whatever-- Something probably set the dog off. It probably wasn't unprovoked. It may have very well been a "snap", or something like that, it was never specified what KIND of bite it was.

It's very much possible that in the right hands, the dog would be perfectly wonderful. I have found that most Rotts (Of course BYB and Puppy mill-- Probably Not from reputable breeders like you, Red!) seem to have a fairly low threshold for snapping or biting, at least in my experience.

It's not fair to the dogs that when the dog shows an ounce of anything other than perfection, people want to put it off on someone else. It's your dog, DEAL WITH IT! Find a trainer! Behaviorist! Manage your situation! People just don't care, it's SO much easier to find a "Good home" for him and get a new one.

 

[Jadens_Slave]

Is it different with larger dogs? I got Buddy at a year and a half and he had awful food aggression. He would lash out at me if i went near him. I think it was from him starving on the streets tho. I went out of my way to slowly pet him everytime he ate and now a year later hes completely over it. I didnt think it was too late to teach a dog either, especially 10 months? That doesnt sound very old?

 

[ihartgonzo]

Ugh. A "sweet" puppy biting people? "Great with kids", to boot? And they're local to me. I know Rottie rescue in this area well, and they don't have room for ANY dogs over a few years old, much less a bite case.

I really honestly hope this dog is PTS, instead of some ignorant people with children taking him in and using a training collar (as Tina so sagely suggested) to "break him" of his aggression. The odds that he will fall into the hands of some one responsible, intelligent, and prepared to do the work that an unpredictable biting adolescent dog requires are 1 in a trillion.

I disagree completely with the statement that Rotties have a short fuse. My Rottie was a rescue from terrible breeding, but his temperament was rock solid, anyway. He would tolerate annoying children, drunk guests, dress-up, and being humped by puppies with a smile. He turned on in an instant the moment he was actually needed to defend our home from a robber, but biting a family member for "no reason" is not a trademark of the breed.

 

[Patiencez]

Tazwell It's not fair to the dogs that when the dog shows an ounce of anything other than perfection, people want to put it off on someone else. It's your dog, DEAL WITH IT! Find a trainer! Behaviorist! Manage your situation! People just don't care, it's SO much easier to find a "Good home" for him and get a new one.

My thoughts were if it went to the right person it could be trained.
as someone else said it didn't say why the bite or how bad it was.
Put a muzzle on it an train it, for God sakes.Dont just kill it!

Thats why all dogs should be trained.My Dog has to set & wait for the food bowl.same with the water bowl. same with the opening of the door.

But we don't live in a perfect world. I am so tired of people getting the large Breeds Just to say me an my Dog are billy bad!!!

then they end up being put down because of stupid people!

Red,Not at all! My anger is directed to the person's responsible for neglecting the education and upbringing of this puppy. I really hope they wake up and realize that rehoming him at this point is not a good idea.

We will be GREAT friends, after all, we admire the same marvelous breed.

Thanks They are Marvelous in every way.

 

[Maxy24]

I fully believe many dogs with resource guarding problems can be rehabilitated, it is a normal, common dog thing IMO but is of course dangerous and the risks of taking the time to train need to be weighed with the benefits. If it is the type who will guard the food someone else is eating or will clear a room when it's time for his dinner than IMO that dog is too dangerous to keep around for any length of time unless it is a very, very special home. If it is the type who is simply aggressive if you try to stick your hands in his food or take his stuff then I think it would be safe for certain homes (without young children) to take the time to change the dog's perspective on having his food/stuff handled by people.

I'm not sure how I feel about rehoming a resource guarder, if you know the person and know they will work with the dog in a positive manner and know that they know their stuff then I don't think it's a bad thing. but I hate to see someone simply throw their problem onto someone else and not deal with issues that their dog has, you can't just take on a dog and be ready for the good times, you need to be prepared to deal with behavior problems.

 

[Sweet72947]

I'm not sure how I feel about rehoming a resource guarder, if you know the person and know they will work with the dog in a positive manner and know that they know their stuff then I don't think it's a bad thing. but I hate to see someone simply throw their problem onto someone else and not deal with issues that their dog has, you can't just take on a dog and be ready for the good times, you need to be prepared to deal with behavior problems.

I know of a few resource guarders that have been placed. But we make sure to place them with people who understand the issue and are absolutely committed to working with the dog. We also do NOT under ANY circumstances place them in homes with young children. Luckily 98% of dogs at the rescue are perfectly fine around their food.

But it ticks me off too when owners of dogs with aggression problems want to rehome their dogs because they don't feel like working with them. "We think he needs a home that can work with him." Yeah, good luck with that.

Would you believe I once saw an ad trying to rehome a fear aggressive SAINT BERNARD? By their description he was not a safe animal whatsoever. I know how it is to manage a 75lb fear aggressive labrador, I couldn't imagine trying to manage 120lb dog with her issues. *shudder*

 

[Patiencez]

Is it different with larger dogs? I got Buddy at a year and a half and he had awful food aggression. He would lash out at me if i went near him. I think it was from him starving on the streets tho. I went out of my way to slowly pet him everytime he ate and now a year later hes completely over it. I didnt think it was too late to teach a dog either, especially 10 months? That doesnt sound very old?

I think that was what got me the most 10 months old!
I have a 3 year old Lhasa she guards everyones Bowl... But I have been working with her an she is getting over it. but she is only 14 lbs

I always watch my big Dogs around kids even though they never show aggression, because to me you just never know for sure. But I train any dog that lives in my house. A Rotti could do some damage.
so It is different with big dogs. But even small ones could hurt a kid.

 

[boarderx415]

what dog doesn't have at least food apprehension? it is natural instinct, don't mess with your dog's food.

hope he finds a good home..

 

[Romy]

what dog doesn't have at least food apprehension? it is natural instinct, don't mess with your dog's food.

Sorry, but any person, strangers, family, small children, etc. can put their hands IN my dogs mouth while he's eating and he's happy about it. My daughter can grab his tongue while he's eating his kibbles and he does not care. Well, he cares in that he's very careful to stop chewing and hang his mouth open so she doesn't get hurt. But I can safely say he has NO issue with his food. And I know he didn't just fall out of nowhere like that. There are other dogs in the world who don't have that issue.

Anyway, a 10 month old puppy biting is a big deal. A 10 month old biting puppy who happens to be a breed commonly targeted by BSL is a big deal. I have to agree with Red on this. If they aren't willing to work out his problems themselves, he should be humanely put down. There are not a lot of good homes for large biting dogs who are willing to work out their issues. People who want a bad@$$ dog are going to be attracted to this, and that's going to be a problem for the dog and the breed as a whole.

There are thousands of dogs who have NEVER laid their teeth on a human being getting killed because there aren't enough good homes for them. Why is this biting dog's life worth saving any more than theirs? Why is this biting dog's life worth the chance that he will cause serious harm or death to a human if put into the wrong hands?