Rottweiler Needing a home

[Renee750il]

I can put my hands into my dogs' mouths when they're eating, remove the food and all I get is some complaining and plaintive looks until I either tell them it's something they aren't supposed to have or give it back to them.

I don't expect -- or WANT them to allow anyone else to do the same, though.

If I had kids, I'd expect the dogs to show the kids the same patience, BUT I'd also expect my kids to leave the dogs alone when they're eating unless there's a reason. Adults are pretty much on their own in my view of the world. I just make sure I'm the buffer between my dogs and the rest of the world and don't give other people access to my dogs except in very controlled circumstances. I don't put my dogs at the mercy of other people, even family members. Especially family members. If there are cousins and their kids around my dogs are safe and away. Unseen and not vulnerable to idiots.

Our dogs are willing to protect us, some even with their lives. We should be willing to at least protect them from situations that put them on the defensive whenever possible, and if it hurts someone's feelings, well, that's better than the possible alternatives. They'll get over it. Your dog won't get over the needle.

 

[Paige]

A resource guarder is much different than a dog with a faulty temperment.

 

[Renee750il]

A resource guarder is much different than a dog with a faulty temperment.

Yup. I don't get too worried about resource guarding. That's something that can be dealt with if you're halfway intelligent!

 

[ihartgonzo]

There are thousands of dogs who have NEVER laid their teeth on a human being getting killed because there aren't enough good homes for them. Why is this biting dog's life worth saving any more than theirs? Why is this biting dog's life worth the chance that he will cause serious harm or death to a human if put into the wrong hands?

I agree with a lot of your post. I would not tolerate my dogs guarding food from any humans... they know that people are their resource providers and they both respect that completely. Gonzo will willingly give up his food to any person/animal. Fozzie will willingly give it up to any person, and reluctantly give it up to any animal. I do feel that a dog who is very defensive of their food toward ANY living being is a liability.

I don't like the idea of this quote, though. It troubles me. There ARE dogs needlessly dying everywhere in this country, but that doesn't mean that any dog who has issues deserves life less than a friendly, stable dog in a shelter. I'm sure I could go to any shelter and find a dog more friendly and more all-around stable than Gonzo, but no dog could replace him. Nonetheless, there are very few people in the world who could manage/train/live with him safely and therein lies the real problem. An overpopulation of lazy morons and a shortage of loving homes who actually own up to their responsibilities. That worries me much more than the fact that there are "better" dogs dying... because the definition of better is very subjective, and because every dog has in them the propensity to bite, as well as the propensity to be a safe member of society.

 

[Romy]

I don't like the idea of this quote, though. It troubles me. There ARE dogs needlessly dying everywhere in this country, but that doesn't mean that any dog who has issues deserves life less than a friendly, stable dog in a shelter. I'm sure I could go to any shelter and find a dog more friendly and more all-around stable than Gonzo, but no dog could replace him. Nonetheless, there are very few people in the world who could manage/train/live with him safely and therein lies the real problem. An overpopulation of lazy morons and a shortage of loving homes who actually own up to their responsibilities. That worries me much more than the fact that there are "better" dogs dying... because the definition of better is very subjective, and because every dog has in them the propensity to bite, as well as the propensity to be a safe member of society.

It is very sad, and if someone like you finds the right dog and he has issues, and you are willing and able to work through those issues with him that is a wonderful thing.

However, people like you are not very common. Certainly not as common as the poor dogs with issues. It's not the dog's fault. They are victims as much as anything.

Yes, every dog has the propensity to bite. But there are dogs who have the potential to bite, and dogs who have already bitten. IMHO the liability that goes with rehoming biting dogs with issues is too great. If I couldn't fix it myself I would put the dog down. To me, no human's life is worth the life of a biting dog, and if I let that dog go to someone else in a messed up state then I would be/feel responsible if that person failed to fix what I couldn't and the dog injured or killed someone.

And Renee, I definitely wouldn't expect your crew to tolerate strangers getting up in their food, lol. They let you do it though, and that's fine. We socialize our dogs to the hilt in the event unplanned interactions happen with toddlers (like when she grabbed his tongue while he was eating, that was NOT planned) to give them the greatest chance of those situations turning out okay. Aurelia also likes to sit on the couch with his bowl on her lap and hand feed him each individual kibble. It's pretty funny, because he will stand there and open his mouth and she will place it on the exact center of his tongue, then he'll chew it and swallow. This way it takes half an hour to eat. :rofl1:Strider is very good with strangers handling him and getting in his personal space, mouth, etc. I just wanted to point out that not every dog in the world gets worried when people/animals are around their food.

 

[Patiencez]

I am still bad at names on who posted what Sorry,
No dog deserves to live more then any other dog.
I seem to get dogs with problems an am willing to work with them.
Emma 3 yrs old is very bad about food gaurding. an will bite she is working through it.when I tell her to leave it she does now.it is because she was put out on the street, an starved I am sure.I don't believe she should die because she bites.But she is a small lap dog.

But I do agree with Red that this Rotti is a big Dog an could kill a small child.or cause bodily harm to someone .
The owners who it loves should get off there *** an train it an not pass it on to another stupid person.They have not one time come back an posted anything about this dog. So I have to say they don't care!

If I did not have small kids an 3 big Dogs right now. I would be willing to take this dog an work with it. if I knew all the details.Because of my Love for the breed.all in all it is a catch 22 there is people who could retrain this dog.
an there is a chance another stupid person could end up with it.

Just a sad case all the way around.

 

[Inga]

I have taken in a few Rotties that were food aggressive and it is not something to be taken lightly. I do not have any children in my house and when I had took those dogs in, it was boot camp for them. All of them became wonderful loving dogs with a LOT of training and very very close supervision on my part.

It breaks my heart to hear of a 10 month old being put to sleep also because I know it is human failure for this poor creature yet again. That said, I also tend to look at the BIG picture and safety is paramount. I also do not want to hear of another "Rottweiler attacks child" story. The majority of people that own this breed should simply NOT have them.

I also hate when people that are irresponsible in the first place chose to just re-home the dogs because the next home could be just a horrid abusive/neglectful life for the poor dog. Rotties are velcro dogs, they LOVE being around their people. It is the ones that are tied up in someones back yard or just out in a fenced enclosure to stand guard that we read about hurting someone. Shameful, just shameful.

 

[colliewog]

This always bothers me. They want to give him to "someone with some land who wants a guard dog". Why do dogs with problems always need land, like that will cure them? Training, attention, and adequate exercise from the current home could be the answer too. I hope whatever happens for the poor guy, it's in his best interest ...

 

[colliewog]

:nono:

The OWNERS should have some balls and either train the dog or destroy it, not pass it on to who knows WHO so it can bite and injure someone else.

I agree with you 100% on this. He would be better off PTS than put in another inappropriate home. That's no life for any dog ...

 

[Hillside]

I agree with you 100% on this. He would be better off PTS than put in another inappropriate home. That's no life for any dog ...

I totally agree with you. The way I look at it, look how many Rotties are out there looking for a home that DON'T have issues.


Didn't you know Colliwog, that when allowed access to land, that dogs get in touch with thier inner deer after bounding around. And everyone knows that deer are so peaceful and serene.:rofl1:

 

[AGonzalez]

I totally agree with you. The way I look at it, look how many Rotties are out there looking for a home that DON'T have issues.


Didn't you know Colliwog, that when allowed access to land, that dogs get in touch with thier inner deer after bounding around. And everyone knows that deer are so peaceful and serene.:rofl1:

Does that include the bucks in rut that kill people because they are soaked in Doe urine? :rofl1:
Sorry that's not really funny, but the analogy is.

 

[Hillside]

Does that include the bucks in rut that kill people because they are soaked in Doe urine? :rofl1:
Sorry that's not really funny, but the analogy is.

I was actually remembering seeing a video of that when I posted.