I place great value on inependent research, hence the reason for my post.
Acutally, I would like to hear what Dogtor J and Mordy both have to say on the subject. I'm afraid that both are too busy with their research and consultatioins to be on much anymore.
Oh, I get it now! 30 years of manufacturing raw feeds, 20 years of granular type feeds, doing your own testing with a biochemistry degree (the study of chemical processes in living organisms) is called moonlighting with a lab coat.
Yet, the canine nutritionist who went to school where that department most likely received funding from Mr. Purina, Iams, and Hills, along with some grant money to help students along the way, and supply the info and reference materials...that is the real deal when it comes to independent research. I see your point.
I know of Mordy and her website. She seems like a wonderful person and very much respected. She has a fantastic website. I am also well aware Robert Abady has no desire to supply her with a current ingredient list of his products for her website. I am also aware of Mordy's opinion on ingredients such by-product meals, which are used in many of the formulas. Mordy, IMO I don't think would ever consider saying anything positive in regards to Robert Abady's approach to nutrition nor his research and would be negative in those respects. No offense to those who value her opinion, but I for one could care less about what Mordy has to say on the subject of Abady research. I would pass it off as being strictly her opinion, nothing more.
I also know of Dogtor J. I like his write up on Cottage Cheese and think it is right on the money. He has a very nice disclaimer on his web page. He is not to the best of my knowledge neither a doctor or vet. He obviously has done his homework. I would agree with a lot that he states and at the same time have some disagreements. There is a link on his website to a nice write up on dogs being carnivores. Take a peek at his list of quality foods for dogs and you will find all the wholesome omnivore style veggies and fruits ingredients for your carnivore to enjoy. Again, same thing in regards to what the opinion would be...in one ear and out the other.