Returning a dog to the breeder - Questions/Rant

Discussion in 'Dogs - General Dog Chat' started by Teal, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. yoko

    yoko New Member

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    I'm on my cell phone so can't find right now but there was an explanation as to why the breeder didn't respond right away.

    And based off the fact that she continued to lie about it after ward and disappeared when proof was show AND is looking into another puppy already I'm going to go out on a limb and say no she hasn't changed.
     
  2. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    Because chazzers don't want this to happen to the next dog of the hour.

    If she had changed, she would ADMIT IT. No, she keeps lying, making up excuses, and challenging everybody. (or sending in her sidekicks to do it)

    As for the rest of your questions, they have all already been answered.
     
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    Somewhere in the thread (forgive me for not going back to look) it was said that Teal herself contacted the breeder just a few weeks ago - for what, I don’t know. Nor do I know why RC contacted the breeder. But I got the impression from the breeder that Teal contacting her again recently prompted the posting of the pictures.
     
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    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    Because as Dr. Phil says: past behavior is a good indicator of future bahavior.
     
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    yoko, thanks for answering,,I guess the breeder part (I think they responded here? way back when, but a year after the incident?) I was just wondering why now? Why not come on here last year and say "this is what happened".. Maybe they responded now because they were unaware of what transpired here a year ago, that was kinda my question I guess and I guess I may have answered myself..

    and no if a person has not changed in a year, maybe doubtful they will ever change, I was just wondering if anyone "KNEW"she had changed / learned from her mistakes or not.

    And I just want to say having gsds my entire life, the pic of the gsd, is not a healthy looking dog:( He's to ribby, coat looks out of condition:( Hope he's had some fattening up
     
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    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    not every dog is the same. he could have been out of coat, coat can very from dog to dog in GSDs, also it can differ from show lines to working lines, which RC's GSD seems to be.
     
  7. Jynx

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    uh, yeah I know a little about gsd's, I've had them for over 30 years:) working lines. The dog in the pic is way to ribby, I don't like fat dogs, but he needs a few pounds on him, just sayin:)
     
  8. Linds

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    I don't really know why Red Chrome or her dogs keep being brought into question. It's irrelevant to the condition of the Fila. Once again I say that she could boil babies for fun every thursday night and it wouldn't change what Teal did to the puppy.
     
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    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    This.
     
  10. JessLough

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    You mean like his owner said, lots of pages ago?

    Having a dog breed for over 30 years means nothing in a lot of cases other than you've had dog for over 30 years :p (Not saying YOU, I just always laugh when people are like "I'VE HAD DOGS FOR THIS MANY YEARS")
     
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    Awww. Yvette....nice of you to show up. I have said Judge is a hard keeper, he was too thin in that picture, and was fed more so that he gained weight.

    Hows your rescue doing? Got anymore dogs from Jairi? Whatever did happen to Lamby? That dog Jairi sent you.


    Please post vet records from my vet saying I neglect my dogs or that they've been in that bad of shape.
     
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    Jynx- that dog has more pictures provided in the photography section. That picture is when he was from 18 months old and still maturing. On top of maturing he is a hard keeper. So I feed him more, but when he would hit a growth spurt he would get a little too thin.
     
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    I was commenting on the pic shown, thanks for explaining, tho there was no need to.

    JessLough, while I agree many can say "have had dogs xxx years", which doesn't necessarily equate to knowledge, suffice it to say, I just don't feel the need to justify or print out my credentials/accomplishments when it comes to gsd's..(and honestly I am not saying this to sound snotty/stuck up/know it all just explaining a little:)
     
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    I think the main thing people want to point out is that even though her 'supporters' claim there is no evidence and it was based off of one pic there were a few (post #75 to see them), also there was vet records posted and a trusted member spoke with the breeder and other members know her.

    Teal came on here and lied repeatedly, avoided questions as to what happened, and is looking for a new dog already.

    The difference here is RC has come on here and stated the dog was ribby and about working to fix that. Teal set up a thread to give an excuse when another dog went missing to hide that she ditched another animal and this one had been starved to dangerous levels.

    They are not the same thing.
     
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    Comparing a lean, intact, high energy, young adult GSD to an emaciated fila puppy is a silly straw grasp.

    Can we go back to Pys and sight hounds? Kthanx. :D
     
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    That GSD is lean, but there's a huge difference between that and the Fila puppy. There is NO comparison. That Fila was neglected until it was emaciated and almost starved to death. Can you not see the difference in their condition? Teal denied it and did nothing to fix him up. He could have died! This GSD in the picture is a long way from dying of starvation. RC acknowledged that her GSD was too light and was working on trying to beef him up. How can you not see the difference?

    And as it was said, how does going around finding pictures of other forum members' dogs, scrutinizing them and then posting the leaner ones on this thread relate to the thread topic? This is about neglect and abuse, complete lack of caring. The feeding and attention was withdrawn from this puppy because of the sickest reason....she didn't like his personality and he wasn't going to fit into her life style. WFT? If you can't see the difference here, well.....there's something wrong.
     
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    thank you yoko for clarifying, sounds like this teal person has not changed, unfortunately people like this can ALWAYS find a dog/puppy if they are persistent enough:(

    Just to clarify my intent was not to compare RC with Teal at all, two totally different topics I was commenting on:) And I don't read every thread on this forum to know that RC's dog was 18 months old in that picture, she explained it and thats that? sheesh, get over it, I have:)
     
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    Posting the gsd to try and mitigate the fila is silliness. First of all, like Linds said, even if RC is a baby boiling dog starver that does not change anything about the fila. Secondly, even if that pic could potentially could change anything about the fila, it doesn't, because the GSD is underweight, the fila is skin and bones, it is the thestral of puppies.

    The GSD has enough muscle on him that you could have rack of GSD if you liked. The muscle along the filas spine is totally atrophied. You can see where the ribs join the vertebral column. There is hardly anything left. The two dogs' body conditions are not equivalent.
     
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