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I don't find it unbelievable that the Chi was loose at all.

I have been accosted by Chi's, TOY poodles, little schnauzers, any number of little dogs while walking/walking my dogs. People let them out the door alone to go potty ALL THE TIME and then let them back in...........stupid? YES, never happens? NOWAY.
 

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People don't let chihuahuas run around loose, it would be stupid.

ya ummm... tell that to my neighbors... they have a Chi that's loose ALL the time. Luckily my dog actually LIKES this dog... but still... the Chihuahua is ALWAYS running around off leash.

I actually tend to run into more little dogs offleash than big dogs... could just be in my area... but that's what I tend to see more often
 

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I don't find it unbelievable that the Chi was loose at all.

I have been accosted by Chi's, TOY poodles, little schnauzers, any number of little dogs while walking/walking my dogs. People let them out the door alone to go potty ALL THE TIME and then let them back in...........stupid? YES, never happens? NOWAY.
That just blows my mind. I wouldn't let any dog out to wander, but if I had a toy like that who slipped out, I'd panic. More than I'd panic if Sarama slipped out. There are just SOOOO many things that are dangerous to tiny dogs that a larger dog could cope with/survive.
 

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Funny, cause see, last Halloween we took Ella with us when we brought the boys out for Trick-or-treating.

Some people were walking around and let their little chi get loose and he started running up to us. He was NO BIGGER than a rat (and I'm not exaggerating), and I had to run in front of him to block him from my dog. Ella didn't even see him because he was so small.
But yeah, crazy stuff there.


I, too, am glad the dog got returned. I mean, I'm sorry she didn't find her forever home, but obviously that home was not the right one for her. People need to know about the breeds they are adopting BEFORE they adopt them.

I feel bad for the chi owners that they lost their dog. AND I feel bad for the pit bull for being returned.
 

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I don't think there are many dog owners or a parents for that matter that didn't at least one time have an escapee.
 
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I agree with that last statement. A person cannot be blamed for having an escapee dog. It's what the person does with the knowledge that their dog got loose that makes them either responsible or irresponsible. Loki got out one time, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. It shook me up quite badly, but the first thing I did -- after retrieving her from her efforts at peeling a dead squirrel off the street -- was to adjust the gate so that it would latch more securely.
 
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Personaly Im glad they returned her. Now she can find a home that is willing to work with her and he escape routes ect

People don't let chihuahuas run around loose, it would be stupid. .
People let small dogs loose around here more then large dogs. Every time I walk Blaze I am on high alert to make sure I spot the little dog before he or the dog spots eachother. Little dog may die if he gets to close. Most think they are as big as great danes and come charging. There is 2 yorkies, a JRT, a toy poodle and a lhaso apso who are all allowed to be free int heir front yards. And one has a house (the one with the JRT) with a cat walk tot he bike path. So we always see him out there in the field. and the monster is MEAN. His owners are just as rude. I find way more small dogs running loose then big dogs.

I don't think there are many dog owners or a parents for that matter that didn't at least one time have an escapee.

I agree. Blae once got locked out all night in the front yard. Was out from about 11pm. until 6am. Thank DoG that he didnt run away. Somtimes these things do just happen.
 

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She is a pretty gal. I am glad she was returned so she can go to a home who will keep her completely under control..

Doesn't anyone feel sorry for the poor Chi's owners ???
I definetly do. But their dog should NOT have been running loose.

I'm guessing the irresponsible Chi owners are joining the media side of pit bulls, if they hadn't already.
 
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I'm not entirely sure that I believe that BOTH dogs were loose. To me, it sounds like the pit bull adopters were trying to avoid a lawsuit in claiming that both dogs were somehow running around loose.

People don't let chihuahuas run around loose, it would be stupid. There is a reason that most chihuahuas are petrified of other people, its because the typical owner keeps it inside and away from other people and animals for most of its life. Maybe the pit broke out, and was able to get into where the chihuahua was?

I find it unlikely that both dogs coincidentally were out and running around around loose at the same time. Maybe the chihuahua got out and was able to enter the fence of the pitty, and got chased back out? It really sounds like someone tried to avoid blame there.
OMG, you have got to be kidding me. The truth of the matter is that a lot of toy owners DO let their dogs loose. Why? Well I'm not quite sure, but I'm thinking that because their dog is small that he/she wont be much of a nuisance and will stay close to home, because they are frightened easily. My sister was attacked by a loose chihuahua. My neighbor lets their Maltese loose, daily.

Not directed at you, but Who says the chi was completely innocent. My neighbors dog came after reggin, quite aggressively. Chis are known to dislike other dogs. Who knows what happened. Pitties are known to have high pray drive, like any terrier does, and I am sure that played a big roll. Purely owners fault here. You can guess and assume what happened, but we really cannot say, because we were not there.

I feel very sorry for the chi. I'd be shaking and crying if my dog ever did that...
 
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Oh, they do. Last house I lived at, I found two different Chihuhuas in my yard. One was a regular offender, and I started checking my yard for him before I'd let my dog out. The little dogs would slip under the 3-4" gap in the gate.
Well...yeah. Chihuahuas can escape from fences if people aren't careful. The person wasn't letting him run loose, they just didn't know their fence sucked
 

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Well, yeah. The people with the other dog didn't let her run loose either- their fence sucked as well.

It is not an excuse. The size of your dog is not an excuse either. Especially if you have a small dog- you need to be double as aware of little wholes or spaces the dog can squish through.

We had neighbors with a tiny Yorkie. He would squeeze through the gap of the gates. Everyone thought it was oh so funny. But me.
 
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No it isn't an excuse. But it wasn't "Oh the pitty got loose it was just an accident! How dare that chihuahua be running around loose!" which was the vibe I was seeing.

We're talking about two irresponsible owners most likely. When there are irresponsible people, there are also liars in fear of lawsuits. I still have my doubts about the entire situation. Incidents like this, accidents or not, are why I don't support the breeding of DA breeds.
 

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But I don't think here is even an issue with a DA dog. The dog gets along fine with dogs here size- I think it is suspected that prey drive kicked in because of the size of the Chi.

Another example of what I mean. I have had some dogs that did just fine with one of my cats (he's a big boned one) and chased my other one because she's tiny (weighs 4,5 lbs).

Well, the chi running loose caused a chain reaction... so technically, the chi was the reason of this unfortunate event. But like we said- it can happen. A lot of times... and I think that is why you are getting this vibe- bad behavior from little dogs is more likely to be excused than bad behavior from larger dogs... and a lot of small breed owners think it is okay for their dog to run up to yours/run loose/snarl at people/etc because they are small.
 
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We don't know that the chi was running loose even. All we have to go on is the word of an irresponsible pet owner, so all we really know is that a pit killed a chi. Somewhere.
 

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As long as you can have the last word you're happy right? Because that is what it seems like.
 
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Well...yeah. Chihuahuas can escape from fences if people aren't careful. The person wasn't letting him run loose, they just didn't know their fence sucked
Denial.

They knew. They just didn't care. You weren't there. They were my neighbors, not yours. It's hard to argue that they were simply ignorant when they left the Chi in the front yard with the gate wide open. Every day. I suppose it was my fault for moving in next door with my socially deviant breed and infecting them with my toxins. The shame part is that even though you don't agree with Chihuahuas supposedly -- or whatever your wording was in the other thread -- you're stauchly defending idiot owners to the extent of calling me a liar. I guess all of us DA breed owners are liars.

Incidents like this, accidents or not, are why I don't support the breeding of DA breeds.
So you want my breed to die out so asshole other breed owners can continue to be irresponsible with their dogs with a clear conscience. Good job. You win this argument on the grounds that you've officially made it to where I have nothing more to say to you. (That's actually a lie. I have a lot to say, but I like this board and want to stick around.)
 

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I see fault on both sides of the story. First the Chi should NOT have been lose. Second, the owners of the pit should've had it in adequate fencing. However, since they are new owners of that dog, it's highly likely that that fence HAD held their dog previous to this. Then suddenly there was 'prey' (because I think this wasn't about dog aggression but rather prey drive) on the other side of the fence and the pit went for it. Dogs can surprise you.... We had a GSD scale INTO our 6 foot wooden privacy fence once, I don't doubt a pit bull could've surprised their owners with some sort of escape.

Yes, it's important to know it could've been an accident that caused the chi to be out, and that is tragic. I really feel for the little dog, it shouldn't have been in this situation.

I see lose dogs all the time. Where I live they're mostly labs, but as for small dogs wandering? Almost all chihuahuas and toy dogs we get in the shelter were picked up as strays. I've known plenty of neighbors that let their dogs in the yard. I knew some with eskies that let them out when they knew they could get out of their invisible fence. Then the dogs got out and jumped in a golden's yard and got into a fight with him nd of course they blamed their big dog.

I think it's a fallacy also to say all chi owners never take their dogs anywhere or let their dogs out. I know I live in a college town and there's probably more toy dogs here (due to apartment restrictions) than most places, but I see chis around all the time. And actually a lot of them are really good, well rounded dogs. I also had several neighbors last year that would let their chi out on their porch and let it go potty on their own. Stupid? Yes, but it happens. I would not assume that the chihuahua was not lose if the people saw the incident and are saying the chihuahua was lose. Why it was lose though is anyone's guess.
 
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No it isn't an excuse. But it wasn't "Oh the pitty got loose it was just an accident! How dare that chihuahua be running around loose!" which was the vibe I was seeing.

We're talking about two irresponsible owners most likely. When there are irresponsible people, there are also liars in fear of lawsuits. I still have my doubts about the entire situation. Incidents like this, accidents or not, are why I don't support the breeding of DA breeds.
So, your saying that you dont support the breeding of chihuahuas? Because chihuahuas can be very DA.

Did you know that any dog with a lot of pray drive have been known to kill cats, birds, rats, raccoons, mice, and any other small animal you can think of? Breeds like beagles, foxhounds, ridgebacks, jack russels, fox terriers, etc.... so I guess you dont support the breeding of those dogs either. WOW.
 
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