Puppy Mills?

[mojozen]

I for one have learned a lot about the breeding and showing processes that i had never known before. And this is from following more than a few threads --

I think people need to be more humble and less defensive all around on these forums. We're all here for the dogs first and foremost. And getting defensive on either side is not very conductive for anything.

However, I do wish Mach the best of luck with her pups.... It will be a learning experience no matter what the outcome...

 

[rottiegirl]

I think maybe some of the hostility came from frustration over byb?

Absolutely. Although we are not 100% sure that mach is lying about the AI. There is a chance that she is being honest. People shouldnt jump to conclusions.

 

[rottiegirl]

I for one have learned a lot about the breeding and showing processes that i had never known before. And this is from following more than a few threads --

I think people need to be more humble and less defensive all around on these forums. We're all here for the dogs first and foremost. And getting defensive on either side is not very conductive for anything.

However, I do wish Mach the best of luck with her pups.... It will be a learning experience no matter what the outcome...

I agree with you, but I would become defensive also if someone blatantly called me a liar.

 

[JennSLK]

Mach, I know you said your web page is new, but perhaps you should check it. I dont know about anyone else, but your writing is wirten over it's self.

 

[rottiegirl]

Mach, I know you said your web page is new, but perhaps you should check it. I dont know about anyone else, but your writing is wirten over it's self.

Yeah, I noticed that also.

 

[mojozen]

I agree with you, but I would become defensive also if someone blatantly called me a liar.

I guess I've been online for too long (since 1995) doing chat rooms, bulletin boards, forums like this, email based forums, and blogging. I would get more defensive in real life if soemone called me a liar, than someone calling me a liar on a forum like this.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion... but I guess online with people I don't know personally I just suspect everyone is lying about something. No offense to anyone, mind, that's just how my mind works.

For example: If someone wants to call me a liar about something I've said on here and you don't know me in real life? Then fine, whatever, start the drama... I will go ahead and exit the other way. Thanks.

I've learned the best way to avoid online drama? Don't participate - don't start it, and don't attempt to finish it. It's a lose-lose situation.

But I've also learned the same rules apply in real life too.

 

[Mach1girl]

As for my web page, I used a font that I purchased and downloaded. Sitebuilder has told me that the words look jumbled due to the fact that many computers out there do not recognize my font, therefore your computer is using a default font instead(next similar to what is there) I will change, I have gotten many complaints regarding this issue. Thank you.

AS FOR THE BYB CRAP-YOU KNOW, NEVER MIND, WHY WASTE MY TIME, WHICH I COUL DBE SPENDIGN WITH MY NEW BABIES AND MY FAMILY ON SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESNT KNOW HO WTO FOLLOW A THREAD. THE ONLY THING I HAVE LEFT TO RESPOND TO THIS ACCUSATION IS-IF I AM A BYB BECAUSE I AM NOT GUTSY ENOUGH TO CULL A BUNCH OF PRECIOUS BABIES AT BIRTH, THEN SO BE IT. IF I AM A BYB BECAUSE I WOULD NOT SPAY MY BITCH AND ABORT THE PUPPIES DUE TO THE FACT SHE CANNOT EVER COMPETE SPAYED, THEN OS BE IT. THEN I GUES, YES, I HAVE EARNED THE NAME BYB. IF YOU DONT LIKE, F-OFF! I AM DONE DEFENDING MYSELF AND HAVING MY BACK AGAINST THE WALL DUE TO ALL THE STALKERS OUT THERE THAT HAVE NO LIFE EXCEPT TO FOLLOW ME FROM FORUM TO FORUM AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO HATE ME. YES RED, IT DOES MATTER TO ME WHAT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON A FORUM SAY TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN LIKE FAMILY TO ME LATELY.AND AS FOR SEEKING ADVICE BEFORE THE BREEDING, GO BACK, DO A SEARCH ON MY INCIDENCE, THEN IF YOU ARE STILL CONFUSED, TOUGH $HIT...
yes my story was real, thanks to those that put their trust and faith in me...
GOODBYE.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

 

[rottiegirl]

I guess I've been online for too long (since 1995) doing chat rooms, bulletin boards, forums like this, email based forums, and blogging. I would get more defensive in real life if soemone called me a liar, than someone calling me a liar on a forum like this.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion... but I guess online with people I don't know personally I just suspect everyone is lying about something. No offense to anyone, mind, that's just how my mind works.

For example: If someone wants to call me a liar about something I've said on here and you don't know me in real life? Then fine, whatever, start the drama... I will go ahead and exit the other way. Thanks.

I've learned the best way to avoid online drama? Don't participate - don't start it, and don't attempt to finish it. It's a lose-lose situation.

But I've also learned the same rules apply in real life too.

I completely understand what you are saying. People should'nt get so upset about things that other people say on the net. Its just the internet, so why should it matter. I think more people should a have the same outlook about it as you . But its hard for some people to completely ignore hurtful comments over the net. I admit that its hard for me, but I am getting better at it. A lot of times I think people say hurtful stuff over the net, because they can hide behind their computer. I think that mach should be able to get advice without being scrutinized, whether she is a byb or not. I give props to mach, just because she tryed her hardest to get advice for the wellbeing of her puppies.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

The time to plan for puppies is BEFORE THE BREEDING.

 

[rottiegirl]

The time to plan for puppies is BEFORE THE BREEDING.

I think everyone agrees with this statement. Sooo true!!

 

[Mach1girl]

The time to plan for puppies is BEFORE THE BREEDING.

But you know, as anyone else does as well, there was no time, because the breeding wasnt supposed to happen!(yet)

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

you know, Mach1, you can dance about the real issue all you want, but the fact is, YOU are responsible for your bitch when she is in season.

YOU are responsible for this breeding, whether you were present when it happened or not.

You can try to make us responsible for not being here every time you needed to be spoon fed, or had some whiney rant about your bitch being a normal first time mom, but we are NOT.

The only person responsible for ANY of this is YOU.

YOU bred your bitch of untitled parents and open pedigree that you can't take off your property. You bred her with no health testing, or contract, or home reservations. You bred her with no idea how to care for or feed a bitch in whelp, or her puppies.

We are responsible for NONE of this.

As much as I feel your practices are despicable, I could not stand by and not offer you advice when you so clearly desperately needed it.

But now I'm done.

Best of luck in your future endeavors.

 

[corsomom]

You seem like a very angry person.

 

[Mach1girl]

....did I blame anyone here for my problems???/...didnt think so......but thanks anyway.

 

[motherofmany]

But you know, as anyone else does as well, there was no time, because the breeding wasnt supposed to happen!(yet)

The thing is, although comparatively short, the gestation period of a dog is long enough to get some good knowledge about how to care for the bitch and whelps.

Now, I'm not trying to pile on here, but you have been given some excellent advice on feeding and socialization and housing of your bitch and puppies and you don't seem to listen.

Given that you are self admittedly short on experience, I think it would be a very good idea of you would start doing the things more experienced people have told you to do.

I think it is obvious to everyone that you do care about the outcome, so start doing something to make it as good an outcome as it can be under the circumstances.

 

[Mach1girl]

I am listening. I have done everything that I was told to do. The crate to whelping box was the biggest hardest change, but I did it. The food thing, is being done, I have listened. Is that reason to throw out smart remarks??? Is that reason for a grudge to keep coming back due to the fact I am not as perfect as someone else??Seems alittle big headedness is gettin gin the way. Dont for one minute think that I am not appreciative, I have thanked over and over again..and I cannot stress enough how you guys have helped me, especially RED for the advice, but man, enough is enough.