Owner watches her puppy being killed......

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savethebulliedbreeds

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When dogs are being groomed they should all be seperated ALL the time. Petsmart screwed up. Not the owners. Just because their dog is DA does not mean that the owners should not have their dog groomed and not be out in public.
 
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Wow, Casa. That is what a stand up thing you did. No it didn't put me at peace. It actually kind of made me mad. Why did you ignor me? Because I am a pit bull person? I see no other reason than that for you doing it.

Sorry to get off topic. I am done now.
 
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I know of several vets who do make arrangements for that very situation, so aggressive dogs won't be sitting in the waiting room getting triggered and creating a dangerous situation.
go figure, a PROFESSIONAL canine establishment, taking the necessary and professional precautions that should be taken. Kind of like what a dog groomer should do as well.
 
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Sorry, but this is just case-in-point to the McPetsMarts of the country. It's sad that these retail establishments such as this get the traffic and notoriety of handling animals for grooming and vet care yet don't deliver. Meanwhile, the "care" is substandard for the most part because of the min. wage "no experience needed" hiring practices. In one breath, they're a blessing because I hope more pets are getting innoculated or getting spayed/neutered. On the other hand, it's just way to easy to drop a pet off at McPetsMart for their "beauty parlor" treatment. These people said keep their dog away from others. I took my golden, Eli, there ONCE to be groomed. Needed him just bathed and his long feathers trimmed. When I picked him up, he looked like he'd been through a meat grinder and his feet caught in traps it was such a bad chop job. I've never been back :eek:
 
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I fail to see what kind of steps a groomer should take especially for dog-aggro dogs. Sometimes the grooming process takes a long time. It doesn't seem fair to ask the groomer to extend their work day by possibly several hours in order to do the hot ones once the rest of the dogs have gone home. At the vet's, people have the option to leave their dog in the car until they're ready to be seen. As others have said, contact between canine clients just shouldn't happen in those situations.

This is all just goofy. I've had some bad dogs in the past, who would still wait patiently in the waiting room, ignore the other dogs, etc. But if some numbnut intern lets puts them in a situation where they could grab another dog, believe it would've happened. I feel like a broken record, but when you put your dog in the hands of professionals, they should act professionally with your dog and be able to handle it.
 
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I"m not saying they can't go to a groomer at all, Just pointing out that maybe checking the kennel to make sure it was secured would be one step, easy and should be done. My response was in response to the Groomer shouldn't be held responsible because it was the owners fault. I disagree, a professional dog groomer should be set up to handle those situations and if a dog can't be near other ones, they shouldn't be. Regardless, if strange dogs are in the mix, they should ALL be kept apart and secured when not being worked on. Its called being a professional
 
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the Petsmart groomer is obviously the only one at fault. once the owners put the dogs in the groomers hands for the time being... the groomer became responsible.

i find it weird to why people are blaming so many other things in this obvious situation.... the puppy's age for grooming, the pitbull, the owner of the pitbull, the puppy's owner, petsmart, etc etc
 

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So they have no business having their dog groomed? Should they also bring the dog to the vet after the clinic is closed to avoid the other dogs?
Who knows? But I would love it if stores quit letting idiots in during business hours & only let them in after hours so the rest of us wouldn't have to be dumbed down by them.
 

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Oh my god, how horrific for that family and puppy. That pitty looks nice and healthy, this sounds like neglect on the PetsMart side. I don't understand why they fined the owners of the Pit?
I live in this town. The owners boarded the pit there during the day. They also informed the facility not to let him around other dogs.

The judge released the dog to the family and dropped the charges on this one.

It is a tragedy. Unfortunately, with a big chain store like sometimes the screening process for employees can have loop holes in it and unreliable people can slip through the cracks.
 

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In this story, there is absolutely zero evidence that this dog came from a byb, was used for fighting, was severly dog aggressive etc. They have a video, there must be something on it that made the judge let the dog go back to the owners, cause all pits are vilified to the nth degree in a case like this. The fact that most people involved seemed upset, not outraged at the pitbull should tell you something. For all you know it was playtime that got too rough.
I couldn't agree with you more! I watched the video, a professional appointed by the public was appointed the position of judge, due to ability to see the truth abide by the law and deliberate justice, where justice is due.

That dog was huge, and the puppy was small. Come on now, I know of a few instances, unfortunate instances, where a big dog and a little dog where playing no aggression what so ever, that ended in injury and even death.

This story aired on my local news two days after we got Chance. I think it is sad, and I feel so sad for the puppy owner. I would hate to have to witness that, or live through it.

But I think people are blind to realize what actually happened all because they see this huge apbt, and this tiny innocent puppy.
 

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I fail to see what kind of steps a groomer should take especially for dog-aggro dogs. Sometimes the grooming process takes a long time. It doesn't seem fair to ask the groomer to extend their work day by possibly several hours in order to do the hot ones once the rest of the dogs have gone home. At the vet's, people have the option to leave their dog in the car until they're ready to be seen. As others have said, contact between canine clients just shouldn't happen in those situations.

This is all just goofy. I've had some bad dogs in the past, who would still wait patiently in the waiting room, ignore the other dogs, etc. But if some numbnut intern lets puts them in a situation where they could grab another dog, believe it would've happened. I feel like a broken record, but when you put your dog in the hands of professionals, they should act professionally with your dog and be able to handle it.
Exactly!!!!!!! Besides that when I worked at the er for animals we had owners that said, you will need to keep my dog muzzled the whole visit unless medical treatment requires the muzzle removed.

And we had animals that we muzzled, at all times for the safety of staff and just in case.

We didn't have special hours for overly aggressive dogs we had poles. And we had signs on kennels and warnings so that even the special few that sometimes just don't get things can be sure to get the very important stuff. And with owner permission sometimes we would have to medicate animals to put them out or keep them very drowsy for their whole stay.

I know that may be a little intense for a groomer. But I believe the only issue here was the failure on behalf of the company to properly secure the animal and staff competent employees.

It's not that difficult, it is done on a daily basis by thousands of other groomers across the nation.
 

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How horrible. Just horrible. If that happened to my dog, nobody would have to euthanize that dog. I would do it myself. The puppy was at the groomers because the owner wanted it to be at the groomer. I don't think it's really germaine.
 

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I know of several vets who do make arrangements for that very situation, so aggressive dogs won't be sitting in the waiting room getting triggered and creating a dangerous situation.
My vet does this. Too bad his groomer sucks.
 
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This kind of reminds me of a story that a fellow Pit Bull owner told. She'd brought her dog in to the vet's for something or other. She told them specifically when she dropped the dog off that she was not to have contact with other dogs. So what do the techs do? After hours, they turn the dog loose with a male Lab to play in the hallway. Needless to say, a fight breaks out. Can you imagine having to explain to two dog owners why their dogs are coming back from the vet all beat up?

If people can spend all day out at dog shows and keep a sensible distance when surrounded by strange dogs, if someone with a slew of hot dogs can crate and seperate for years with no problem, then why can't professionals in a professional establishment do it for a day?
 

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Baha, when my husband & I went to St. Louis in July 2005, we had to board 4 leftover dogs (I ran out of friends to watch them ;) ). I not only explained to the clinic on the phone that my dogs are DA & canNOT be let out to play together, but I told them again when we dropped them off AND I had typed up a memo with large bold print explaining it again.

Yet when we picked them up, I didn't notice anything until we got home. That's when I noticed that Rex, Chipper, & Sukari all had numerous punctures & scabs all over them. I cannot explain to you how pissed off I was at that moment. And Sukari's wounds were infected so despite the fact that I keep antibiotics on hand, I took her back to the clinic (it's a boarding facility located adjacent to a vet clinic) & demanded that they treat her. They did & then tried to charge me over $200! I let them have it. I explained that they would be very lucky if they weren't hearing from our lawyer that very afternoon.

Rex retained scars from the ordeal as did Sukari.

And alas, what was their explanation? Well, the main boarding attendant told me I was overreacting about APBTs because he had one & they are not as DA as people like to believe & I was just talking my dogs up to make myself sound "cool." I came within inches of punching his lights out.
 

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