On Driving Away our Members

jess2416

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#21
Guess I should just leave now...because if I was only allowed to speak when I had something nice to say, well, I would never be allowed to talk..

:rolleyes:

I think people need to learn that if they post asking for advice, or opinions or whatever then that doesnt mean that they are only going to get the advice that they want to hear...
 

Paige

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I have thick skin. I can take whatever is dished out at me and not be any worse than before. However not everyone is like that and I try my best to state my opinions but also consider the fact others do have feelings and may be more sensitive than I.

It takes a whole lot o people to make the world go round though. We need people of all sorts to balance us all out.
 

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I have thick skin. I can take whatever is dished out at me and not be any worse than before. However not everyone is like that and I try my best to state my opinions but also consider the fact others do have feelings and may be more sensitive than I.

It takes a whole lot o people to make the world go round though. We need people of all sorts to balance us all out.

I understand that completely, but when you post that you need advice on a forum as big as this with so many different members with different opinions/beliefs/and thoughts, you have to know that NOT everyone is going to be that way, not everyone is going to cuddle you about things and certainly not everyone is going to give the advice that "you" want to hear
 

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Oh I get that fully. YOu guys do such a good job of that though I'd be beating the dead horse. :p

In all honesty a lot of the times the more heated topics I could care less about. I lack an opinion either way so I don't post. If I feel strongly about it I will state my mind.
 

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#26
Why are people trying to defend a reason for being rude?

there is being honest and then there is having an attitude about it.

I am just as guilty but I'm not going to defend my bad judgement at times because "I'm just being honest".

We can all try to be honest without being bitches. it is possible... we just have to try a little harder.
 

Buddy'sParents

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This happens every now and then.... things get heated somewhere along the way and then someone gets upset and stomps off (not saying it's right or wrong, I don't even know what happened in this instance) and then a thread is started to scold all the members that did wrong, wrong, wrong in the eyes of whoever starts that specific thread. Talk about judgmental and turning the tables around on everyone else. Hypocritical, anyone?

And then members join in, some stand up for those that are simply offering opinions (could those opinions be offered nicely? of course, but this is the internet and we can't see facial expressions or know the true tone of the message that someone is trying to get across and since none of us are mind readers we can just move along to the next point) and then other members gang up on others for being rude and not following that posters own idea of what someone should say and how they should say it. Whew. Anyone else tired?

It is the internet, people! Yes, we all have made some very good friendships. Yes, there are times when we all get on each other's nerves and rant and rave. It happens. I know this.

But what it comes down to is knowing that we are a hugely diverse group of people, from every walk of life, from every culture. We all think, eat, dream, walk differently. We all love differently, we speak differently. So when someone posts and they want opinions, they have to know that they are not going to get some rigged response. If the thread interests enough people then the OP is going to get a wide range of opinions and they don't have to agree with them, but they certainly asked for them and there is no blame in that.

So, maybe we need more explicit, concrete, forum rules. For instance, if you want to post a rant and do NOT want opinions, say so. If you want feedback on something that happened, say so. If you want people to not give a rip about a lot of things, forget about it. If there is one thing that is true about all of us, it is that we are passionate about something, somewhere along the way. And no one can expect any of us imperfect beings to just turn ourselves off when we are asked to participate in something. That will never happen. And for goodness sakes, stop blaming each other and pointing fingers, this isn't grade school either. Know yourself and whether you can appropriately handle yourself in a heated debated/thread/rant, etc.. and know when to walk away so that these types of threads aren't started anymore. And, oh, yes, one more point.. be true to yourself... don't act one way or another because it has been implied that it is required of you... just know yourself and your own boundaries. ;)
 

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#28
The real world isnt sunshine and lollypops. Although there is a fine line between blunt and rude
 

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#29
Why are people trying to defend a reason for being rude?

there is being honest and then there is having an attitude about it.

I am just as guilty but I'm not going to defend my bad judgement at times because "I'm just being honest".

We can all try to be honest without being bitches. it is possible... we just have to try a little harder.
:hail: I agree 100%

Of course im also one of those with out thick skin which seems to get on everyones nerves :rolleyes:.

Oh yeah and to those who says its "just the internet" yeah it is. And in all honestly rudeness and meaness doesent bother me. Anywhere but here. Maybe because we are all so much closer than your average forum. I don't know maybe im just insane.

And this is not me being dramatic or finding something to cry about.
 

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My point is more that it is the internet and we do not know how the other person is feeling or what their demeanor is like when they are posting. Unless they are typing in all caps and exclamation points are all over the place and we see the mad smiley... but it's often that those are not the cases that people complain about.

It's all happened to all of us.. when we post something and it is taken completely out of the context in which we meant it to be, but it's what we've got with the internet. It's far from perfect. The only thing we can do is try to explain ourselves as best as possible. :)
 
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I don't have very thick skin myself. :)
:hail: I agree 100%

Of course im also one of those with out thick skin which seems to get on everyones nerves :rolleyes:.

Oh yeah and to those who says its "just the internet" yeah it is. And in all honestly rudeness and meaness doesent bother me. Anywhere but here. Maybe because we are all so much closer than your average forum. I don't know maybe im just insane.

And this is not me being dramatic or finding something to cry about.
 

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Lol yay Dena im not alone!! :p

My point is more that it is the internet and we do not know how the other person is feeling or what their demeanor is like when they are posting. Unless they are typing in all caps and exclamation points are all over the place and we see the mad smiley... but it's often that those are not the cases that people complain about.

It's all happened to all of us.. when we post something and it is taken completely out of the context in which we meant it to be, but it's what we've got with the internet. It's far from perfect. The only thing we can do is try to explain ourselves as best as possible. :)
I didn't mean any of that or didn't mean it towards you ;). I just meant the general saying. But I do get what your saying too.

Now I wonder if that ^ made any sense lol.
 

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THere is a fine line but i think it ought to be common sense to all. A person can debate a topic without getting ugly. THat is why we learn debate in jr high. Or at least i and everyone else i know did. I dont' know why debate rules can't apply here.
 

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#36
I don't think it needs to even be debate rules. How about we all take a page from Bill & Ted...
and "be excellent to each other."

I agree 100% with what sparks said. You don't have to necessarily not say something because it's "not nice" but you do NOT have to be rude, nasty, bitchy, insulting, call names... any of that stuff. It's all in how you say things...
and yeah, the downside to the internet is that you don't get emotion, but that's all the more reason to maybe take a little bit more time to think over your response. I know that in heated conversations I will sometimes pause and go quiet for a moment as I carefully choose my words, because I think about what I am saying and how it will make someone else feel... the internet is even better for that because you are not face-to-face and immediate response is not necessary.
 

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Agree Smkie ..... remember too folks that we are of all ages and all walks of life here and from many different cultures and countries .....
 
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#38
I agree with you, but if someone agrees with something else; why not echo?
If the user is asking for opinions, give them your's. See, if you asked a question, wouldn't you rather have a page full of agreements of an answer so you know it's right compared to one answer with one opinion? You can be more sure.
But you really have some good points there. (I'm going to agree with the fact I have very thin skin, not thick at all. The smallest things make me angry.)
 

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