Forgot to include in my post that the "friend" does not have any children, however, like me, she is a nanny(which is how we met a few months ago). I'm trying to figure out a way to inform her employers of this mess. Though they have to know something's wrong, because she was arrested before work yesterday.
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Whatever the statistics or how they do the studies, whether or not she purposely slammed the dog to the ground that hard, etc, etc, etc.....who here would be comfortable having someone like her take care of their children? OMG! :yikes: Yes, I think those parents have a right to know how she lost all control of herself when a little pee from a tiny puppy got on her.
I'm also very glad that Lily is doing okay. She'll get better and better, I'm sure.
I'm also very glad that Lily is doing okay. She'll get better and better, I'm sure.
So glad Lily is doing better and wants to play with you now. The wailing when she's left must be from some fear, maybe sounds from somewhere she can't see is making her nervous. Hope it will clear up in time.
But I would definitely go to the parents where she is a nanny and inform them of what's happened, in all fairness to them I don't think she should be near any children. Can you imagine a child accidentally spilling a glass of milk on her? What would her reaction be to that? Don't want to wait till she hurts a child, you would feel pretty awful hearing about it.
But I would definitely go to the parents where she is a nanny and inform them of what's happened, in all fairness to them I don't think she should be near any children. Can you imagine a child accidentally spilling a glass of milk on her? What would her reaction be to that? Don't want to wait till she hurts a child, you would feel pretty awful hearing about it.
That's the part that concerns me.
BUT . . . you have to be careful you don't open yourself up to problems for "interfering with her ability to earn her living." :wall:
They probably need to read the charges for themselves, rather than be told. Once an arrest is made, it is a matter of public record
BUT . . . you have to be careful you don't open yourself up to problems for "interfering with her ability to earn her living." :wall:
They probably need to read the charges for themselves, rather than be told. Once an arrest is made, it is a matter of public record
I'm taking my time writing a non-judgmental, non-accusatory, simply informative message to her.
Getting your legal advice from an officer is a marginally worse idea than getting your legal advice from a cell mate. I and the attorneys I've worked for have spent a sh1tload of time getting people out of jams they got into by getting their legal advice from an officer. Truth.
Putting it in writing out on the internet is a very, very, very bad idea.
EDIT: An officer giving you that kind of information is practicing law without a license. Illegal.
Just please, PLEASE step very carefully.
Putting it in writing out on the internet is a very, very, very bad idea.
EDIT: An officer giving you that kind of information is practicing law without a license. Illegal.
Just please, PLEASE step very carefully.
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The most I would do is suggest she check the public record, read the original complaint/report that's on file and make her own decision.
You don't know what kind of relationship she and this nanny have or whether or not she's a rational type who even wants to know or if she's more the BFF type who doesn't want to know and is going to hate anyone who interferes with that. You don't want to end up with someone stalking you or otherwise making your life miserable.
You don't know what kind of relationship she and this nanny have or whether or not she's a rational type who even wants to know or if she's more the BFF type who doesn't want to know and is going to hate anyone who interferes with that. You don't want to end up with someone stalking you or otherwise making your life miserable.
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Having personally talked to an attorney about spreading truth about abuse of animals, and in our case their wasn't even any arrests, IMO it is absolutely safe to speak the truth about it. You can absolutely tell her employers that she was arrested for animal cruelty because she reacted out in a violent anger towards an animal. That is truth. Not slander. Now, I still would personally tell her face to face, or over the phone. Writing almost always is a bad idea.. but all those people that threaten to sue for slander... well, its mostly a joke. A slander case is VERY hard one to make.
So please, do inform her! I'd be careful treading on ground in which they are friends, and wouldn't detail the attack this person made against Lilly, but saying just little info I said above^^ would in no way be slanderous.
So please, do inform her! I'd be careful treading on ground in which they are friends, and wouldn't detail the attack this person made against Lilly, but saying just little info I said above^^ would in no way be slanderous.
I have to agree with that. Some cops don't even know the law themselves for things they should know the law on. Sometimes a motorist knows more than they do.
A perfect example was when I was issued a summons for driving around in a vehicle that had no inspection done. In the state of NJ everyone is supposed to have an up to date inspection sticker in the lower left part of the windshield. My vehicle does not have one and I was stopped for just that.
When I first registered my vehicle that I have had since 2001 I found out that inspection was not required because it is diesel powered and has a GVWR of over 10,000 pounds therefore it is self inspection only. I tried to tell the cop this but he did not want to listen. He told me that only applies to people that have a fleet of 50 of the same vehicles or more.
When it came time to go to court I seen the prosecutor and all the information that I received from the state motor vehicle inspection department was read to him and even before doing so told him exactly what I had told the cop that pulled me over that it was over 10,000 pounds and diesel powered and did not require a state inspection. Showed him the registration with the GVW indicated on the registration of 11,000 pounds and he told me that he used to work for the DMV when I was about 10 years old and said there was self inspection but it changed. I then told him that when I was 10 years old any truck registered over 7000 pounds was self inspection. I think it kind of surprised him that I knew.
After reading him all the information that I had from the state and explaining to him how the law does not apply in this case he said all the vehicles you mentioned as examples have diesel engines and I said for the 3rd time mine does also and showed him how the VIN breaks down to indicate a diesel engine.
His reply was since when did Ford put a diesel engine in a van and I told him since about 1985. He dismissed the ticket without it even going to the judge. But it goes to show you that you do not want to take law advice from a cop and I would not even take law advice from a prosecutor because this one did not even know that Ford has a diesel powered van.
By the way how is the dog doing physically?. Does he still have issues of being afraid of you or other people?
A perfect example was when I was issued a summons for driving around in a vehicle that had no inspection done. In the state of NJ everyone is supposed to have an up to date inspection sticker in the lower left part of the windshield. My vehicle does not have one and I was stopped for just that.
When I first registered my vehicle that I have had since 2001 I found out that inspection was not required because it is diesel powered and has a GVWR of over 10,000 pounds therefore it is self inspection only. I tried to tell the cop this but he did not want to listen. He told me that only applies to people that have a fleet of 50 of the same vehicles or more.
When it came time to go to court I seen the prosecutor and all the information that I received from the state motor vehicle inspection department was read to him and even before doing so told him exactly what I had told the cop that pulled me over that it was over 10,000 pounds and diesel powered and did not require a state inspection. Showed him the registration with the GVW indicated on the registration of 11,000 pounds and he told me that he used to work for the DMV when I was about 10 years old and said there was self inspection but it changed. I then told him that when I was 10 years old any truck registered over 7000 pounds was self inspection. I think it kind of surprised him that I knew.
After reading him all the information that I had from the state and explaining to him how the law does not apply in this case he said all the vehicles you mentioned as examples have diesel engines and I said for the 3rd time mine does also and showed him how the VIN breaks down to indicate a diesel engine.
His reply was since when did Ford put a diesel engine in a van and I told him since about 1985. He dismissed the ticket without it even going to the judge. But it goes to show you that you do not want to take law advice from a cop and I would not even take law advice from a prosecutor because this one did not even know that Ford has a diesel powered van.
By the way how is the dog doing physically?. Does he still have issues of being afraid of you or other people?
Having personally talked to an attorney about spreading truth about abuse of animals, and in our case their wasn't even any arrests, IMO it is absolutely safe to speak the truth about it. You can absolutely tell her employers that she was arrested for animal cruelty because she reacted out in a violent anger towards an animal. That is truth. Not slander. Now, I still would personally tell her face to face, or over the phone. Writing almost always is a bad idea.. but all those people that threaten to sue for slander... well, its mostly a joke. A slander case is VERY hard one to make.
So please, do inform her! I'd be careful treading on ground in which they are friends, and wouldn't detail the attack this person made against Lilly, but saying just little info I said above^^ would in no way be slanderous.
So please, do inform her! I'd be careful treading on ground in which they are friends, and wouldn't detail the attack this person made against Lilly, but saying just little info I said above^^ would in no way be slanderous.
From 1989 to 2000 I lived in California. The apartment building I was living in was in disrepair and no one wanted to fix the problems so I called the building inspector and they looked at 4 apartments out of the 22 because they could only get access to the four. They had code violations of 2 pages single spaced on the 4 units that they inspected.
Since nothing was still being done to correct them I hung a fluorescent orange poster board outside my window on the second floor apartment I lived in. The sign was written in big black letters and it said "If you want to rent an apartment in this building, call me first and ask me how the property management company maintains this building" along with my phone number.
The property management threatened to sue me with slander and liable and I told them go right ahead because you would lose in court as I have copies of the building code violations and how they were not repaired yet. I also told them that I would counter sue them against my first amendment rights and I will sue them for enough money to buy a house in this city. I also informed them that the city consists of 85% renters and therefore the jury would consist of that also and I am sure there would be people on the jury that could relate to what building problems there were and not being able to get them repaired. They did not sue because they knew they did not have a case.
They then remodeled my whole apartment and I then moved back to Jersey a few months later.