OMG I hate our neighbours
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umm, when my bro, sis and i would play in our backyard, we would throw balls into our neighbor's yard ALL the time...these werent the ppl next door...they were the ppl behind us....so we would have to go all the way around the block, knock on their door and ask for permission to get our ball....
they didnt even have a dog or anything...but times where they werent home. we went home empty handed...we NEVER EVER had the nerve to walk on someone's property without permission...and we were pretty young kids, AND we live in a REALLY good neighborhood.
we would go into our next door neighbor's yard cause they were rarely home, and they said we could...if we were just getting a ball....
having the attitude of "kids are kids" is what is making kids be such royal spoiled brats these days. If you can teach a dog to 'stay', you should be able to teach a kid to 'stay' (on their own property
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Would Jenn have really been at fault if Sadie bit one of the kids? If so...that is rediculous...
they didnt even have a dog or anything...but times where they werent home. we went home empty handed...we NEVER EVER had the nerve to walk on someone's property without permission...and we were pretty young kids, AND we live in a REALLY good neighborhood.
we would go into our next door neighbor's yard cause they were rarely home, and they said we could...if we were just getting a ball....
having the attitude of "kids are kids" is what is making kids be such royal spoiled brats these days. If you can teach a dog to 'stay', you should be able to teach a kid to 'stay' (on their own property
)Would Jenn have really been at fault if Sadie bit one of the kids? If so...that is rediculous...
i guess i just never thought it was a big deal when i got a ball or a frisbee in my backyard. I would see the kids coming over and call the dogs in so they could retreive the whatever and go back..kids are kids. once upon a time we had more room to play in the world then just the back yard. I do feel that how you handle such a situation will have great impact on the results and anger isn't the way to go. All it does is spread more anger and then you get big trouble.
I don't blame you for yelling. I grew up with a father who would have done the exact same thing. When you own a property, and especially put up a fence no one has the right to walk into it uninvited.
My fathers reasoning has always been if they get hurt on our property, even though the child is trespassing, if they get hurt we are liable! (we did a renovation of our house for example and dug a huge hole in the yard to do this, what if they fell in?)
With people who did not want to take care of there kids he was very effective, they learnt very fast to never come into our yard unless invited. (My father was not affraid to take the child and walk them back to there parents house and tell them off as well)
This is a safety issue. It was really stupid to try to go into the yard when the dog was growling! The parent needs to teach the child common manners and common sence with animals.
(This being said, when I was a kid I did go over the fence into our neighbors yards,but the yards where usually open ones and I knew all the neighbors and none ever had an issue with it, because you can imagine with that type of father I was very well behaved!)
My fathers reasoning has always been if they get hurt on our property, even though the child is trespassing, if they get hurt we are liable! (we did a renovation of our house for example and dug a huge hole in the yard to do this, what if they fell in?)
With people who did not want to take care of there kids he was very effective, they learnt very fast to never come into our yard unless invited. (My father was not affraid to take the child and walk them back to there parents house and tell them off as well)
This is a safety issue. It was really stupid to try to go into the yard when the dog was growling! The parent needs to teach the child common manners and common sence with animals.
(This being said, when I was a kid I did go over the fence into our neighbors yards,but the yards where usually open ones and I knew all the neighbors and none ever had an issue with it, because you can imagine with that type of father I was very well behaved!)
You're right, Pixie. That's just common sense. And the parents are grossly at fault for not teaching their kids that you don't just let yourself into someone else's yard without asking permission first. If no one is home to ask, then you find something else to do until you can get permission to retrieve your ball/frisbee/whatever.
EXACTLY!
We put up fences to keep others out of our yards - not just to contain our dogs.
I do suggest keeping a padlock on the gate and posting a "No Trespassing" sign - just so there can be no question. I finally convinced my parents to keep a padlock on the gate after someone openned the gate and let O'Reilly, our blind Aussie, out. (We found him safe and sound, by the way.)
EXACTLY!
We put up fences to keep others out of our yards - not just to contain our dogs.
I do suggest keeping a padlock on the gate and posting a "No Trespassing" sign - just so there can be no question. I finally convinced my parents to keep a padlock on the gate after someone openned the gate and let O'Reilly, our blind Aussie, out. (We found him safe and sound, by the way.)
I agree. I probably would have yelled too, through fear for the child and to stop my dog from attacking at the same time. And I have two kids and I dearly love kids.
But the truth of the matter is that going in someone's else's yard without permission is dangerous and not smart. The kid's father should have taught him better.
On the other side of the coin, so to speak, yes I would have been mad at someone if they yelled at my kid even if my kid had been in the wrong and acting ignorent because kids do that if not taught better.(But that's just the mothering instince kicking in..lol. Once I calmed down, I would have realized my kid was in the wrong).
But also some people keep dangerous dogs or dogs that are just more protective than others of their yards. And if they keep them confined to their yard that is perfectly legal in alot of states and in some states if you enter someone's yard without permission especially through a closed, or over a locked, fence and get bit, you are in the wrong and the judge will back the dog owner up too!
But the truth of the matter is that going in someone's else's yard without permission is dangerous and not smart. The kid's father should have taught him better.
On the other side of the coin, so to speak, yes I would have been mad at someone if they yelled at my kid even if my kid had been in the wrong and acting ignorent because kids do that if not taught better.(But that's just the mothering instince kicking in..lol. Once I calmed down, I would have realized my kid was in the wrong).
But also some people keep dangerous dogs or dogs that are just more protective than others of their yards. And if they keep them confined to their yard that is perfectly legal in alot of states and in some states if you enter someone's yard without permission especially through a closed, or over a locked, fence and get bit, you are in the wrong and the judge will back the dog owner up too!
hey just curious what kind of a dog is Sadie?
I do want to say I just had to have a dog(lab/greyhound- an abuse case) put down like 2 mos ago because he was very protective of us and our kids,and no one would listen about not approaching him, and it got to be too stressful, especially with theneighborhood kids trying to pester him ! Sometimes it is human nature to be ignorent...lol, especially if not taught better by our parents.
I do want to say I just had to have a dog(lab/greyhound- an abuse case) put down like 2 mos ago because he was very protective of us and our kids,and no one would listen about not approaching him, and it got to be too stressful, especially with theneighborhood kids trying to pester him ! Sometimes it is human nature to be ignorent...lol, especially if not taught better by our parents.
Im glad no one got hurt!
If I were the parent I would have explained to my child that you shouldnt be going into other peoples yards without permission. Then take the child back over to ask nicely for the ball.
I wouldnt have liked the fact that another person yelled at my kid but if it saved him from being mamed its all good.
If I were the parent I would have explained to my child that you shouldnt be going into other peoples yards without permission. Then take the child back over to ask nicely for the ball.
I wouldnt have liked the fact that another person yelled at my kid but if it saved him from being mamed its all good.
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MomOf7 said:
Im glad no one got hurt!
If I were the parent I would have explained to my child that you shouldnt be going into other peoples yards without permission. Then take the child back over to ask nicely for the ball.
I wouldnt have liked the fact that another person yelled at my kid but if it saved him from being mamed its all good.
If I were the parent I would have explained to my child that you shouldnt be going into other peoples yards without permission. Then take the child back over to ask nicely for the ball.
I wouldnt have liked the fact that another person yelled at my kid but if it saved him from being mamed its all good.
All I'm saying is that situation could have been handled better. What are we teaching our children if we resort to yelling before reasoning?
Sometimes you need to yell to get someone's attention quickly in serious situation - a matter of hitting the audible panic button. Dad should have been more interested in asking his kids why they thought it was okay to just walk into someone's fenced yard, and apologized for his kids' thoughtless and disrespectful behaviour.
There isn't usually a lot of time to reason when a kid is getting ready to come through the gate and the dog isn't happy.
There isn't usually a lot of time to reason when a kid is getting ready to come through the gate and the dog isn't happy.
I can see both sides of this argument ..... if I had a dog which might bite, I'd yell first and try to explain second. I have an back yard which is fenced with 2 other properties .... the kids in one, balls go over both fences.... they know the dogs are friendly and I don't mind them retrieving a ball .... neither does the other neighbor. I guess you have to know your neighbors. If they don't know you or your dogs, they should ring the doorbell.