Obnoxious Lawn-protective neighbors

[Jules]

The thing is, my parents live in a..well, upper middle class?...I have honestly no idea...and the home owners association is very strict with how the neighborhood should look like. I mean, they don't tell residents what flowers they should plant, but it states that you need to keep your lawn in a very good shape.
So my dad really cares for the lawn, puts a lot of effort and yes, money, too in it. So he gets annoyed to, when people let their dog poop on the lawn and don't pick it up. What doesn't mean that he would go after someone like the guy here.

 

[Debi]

but some people LOVE gardening...it's their world like dogs are our world. it goes beyond planting flowers. it's pride in their entire lawn. if you can't respect that, then that's just not mature. every person has a right to do what they love to do.......on their own property. YOU don't have to see the big deal in a lawn. the point is THEY do.......and they have that right. respect........it's not difficult.

 

[Debi]

and you must understand that urine (some people don't agree..but this is fact) kills grass.

 

[Dreeza]

The thing is, my parents live in a..well, upper middle class?...I have honestly no idea...and the home owners association is very strict with how the neighborhood should look like. I mean, they don't tell residents what flowers they should plant, but it states that you need to keep your lawn in a very good shape.
So my dad really cares for the lawn, puts a lot of effort and yes, money, too in it. So he gets annoyed to, when people let their dog poop on the lawn and don't pick it up. What doesn't mean that he would go after someone like the guy here.

yeah thats how it is here too...my neighbors lawn has always been awful...full of dandelions and crab grass...just looks really outta place with all the other lawns...

as long as it stays mowed they are okay, but they've definately been 'warned'

 

[DanL]

and you must understand that urine (some people don't agree..but this is fact) kills grass.

I'll give photo evidence later this summer.

 

[Debi]

I'll give photo evidence later this summer.

Dan....this amazed me...during winter sometimes Hammie would decide he couldn't wait til we hit the woods. I figured it wasn't a big deal. WRONG. now that it's spring...I see every 'spot' he hit. urine is the major reason you may see yellow spots of dead grass in your yard. (most people think it's grubs..HA!)

not that my entire yard is trying to be a golf course. LOL but it's nice to have some areas nice and green for the occasional outdoor picnic. alfresco dining with wine...........sorry......daydreaming again!

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

but some people LOVE gardening...it's their world like dogs are our world. it goes beyond planting flowers. it's pride in their entire lawn. if you can't respect that, then that's just not mature. every person has a right to do what they love to do.......on their own property. YOU don't have to see the big deal in a lawn. the point is THEY do.......and they have that right. respect........it's not difficult.

I don't let my dogs walk through peoples flowers. But if they step into the edge of their yard I seriousely do not see the big deal. Like i have said before sometimes you can't avoid walking in someones yard or stepping into for a few minutes to be out of the of an on coming car. I respect people but if it comes down to risk my life or risk your grass im going to risk your grass.

I never walk my dogs directly in someones yard but on my street we don't have side walks so my dogs do step in yards every now and again.

 

[DanL]

Dan....this amazed me...during winter sometimes Hammie would decide he couldn't wait til we hit the woods. I figured it wasn't a big deal. WRONG. now that it's spring...I see every 'spot' he hit. urine is the major reason you may see yellow spots of dead grass in your yard. (most people think it's grubs..HA!)

not that my entire yard is trying to be a golf course. LOL but it's nice to have some areas nice and green for the occasional outdoor picnic. alfresco dining with wine...........sorry......daydreaming again!

My yard is far from a golf course but green is green!

Gunnar used the same spot all last summer. Nothing grew there. We had to put lime on it because it smelled strong and the breeze always seemed to blow the way when you didn't want it to. This year I'm going to be more attentive to watering it down. I also heard that cider vinegar will help neutralize the alkalinity of the urine so I might experiment with that.

It might not be as big a deal this summer as he lifts his leg now and usually goes over to the edge of the yard where there are trees and bushes.

 

[Debi]

My yard is far from a golf course but green is green!

Gunnar used the same spot all last summer. Nothing grew there. We had to put lime on it because it smelled strong and the breeze always seemed to blow the way when you didn't want it to. This year I'm going to be more attentive to watering it down. I also heard that cider vinegar will help neutralize the alkalinity of the urine so I might experiment with that.

It might not be as big a deal this summer as he lifts his leg now and usually goes over to the edge of the yard where there are trees and bushes.

I did hear that watering the area is a good thing to neutralize the acid.

LOL...speaking of 'lifing his leg'......my Ham is forever lazy in that department. he will sometimes do that.........most time he hits his front leg. they do seem to naturally like the edge of the yard. wonder if that is a shepherd trait???? Addie sure doesn't seem as picky! (hey...still showing Dave your pond pics.....LOL.....STILL hinting!)

 

[DanL]

Now that the thread has been sufficiently hijacked.... I don't think the edge of the yard is the exclusive place- I see him hitting bushes around the house as well. At least it might save the lawn now that he's been lifting his leg for a few months. He doesn't hit his front leg, you can see him hop around to get the right angle. He and Bruzer are funny- one will mark something, then the other will go mark on top. Whoever goes 1st gets marked over but there is no order. I'm waiting for them to mark, re-mark, re-mark re-mark, lol, but they don't do that.

 

[Debi]

OH...I'm soooooooo sorry if I hijacked the thread!!!!! back to topic!

 

[filarotten]

Most people spend a lot of time and hard work to keep their lawn looking nice. In a lot of subdivisions they have yard of the month. Some people covet that little sign in their yard. Maybe this guy is one of them. It used to tick me off when people would let their dogs poop in my front yard.

Urine does kill grass. My poor lawn in front of my front porch...is torched from Brutie. Now that he lifts his leg, it is finally getting a break and starting to fill back in.

 

[memyselfandmiah]

I will let my dog some access to yards that are in ill repair, but I do not let him on yards that look like people try and take care of it.

I live in the desert, and my neighborhood is full of desert landscaping. I let him run the rocks as much as he wants. Always pick up poo. even if i have to go back b/c I didnt think to bring bags

 

[Debi]

I will let my dog some access to yards that are in ill repair, but I do not let him on yards that look like people try and take care of it.

but don't you see........that's still just wrong. RESPECT...no matter what you perceive the conditions....it's about basic respect. period. I don't care if someone THINKS my yard isn't nice.......I don't want them here. that's me speaking as a dog lover. now......just imagine how a non dog lover feels. sorry, it's just not right. I'm so sorry for everyone living in an area that they feel they have no option.....I can't relate to that.

 

[KellyB]

I agree!! It does not matter whether you feel that the yard is poorly kept. It is not your yard and therefore you have no business being there or allowing your dog there.

I really have a hard time believing that there is nowhere the dog can get in the grass. For example, many sidewalks have grass between the sidewalk and the roadway. I consider this an OK place for a dog to walk because that is generally considered a "public" space which is controlled by the township, municipality, etc.

I cannot believe the number of people who think it is OK to let the dog into someone else's yard as long as they don't dig and the poop is picked up. It is disrespectful!! Not to mention that you then call the owners of the yards "rude" and out of line for reacting to it!!!

Imagine if someone allowed their cat or child to roam into your yard. It would make the dog go nuts and I'm sure you wouldn't apprecaite it. Whether you cared about the lawn or not. It's the basic principle.

 

[Debi]

this is my last post on the subject. you can either choose to be a responsible dog owner...or not. being a responsible owner means you do what is best for your dog, and you do what is best for your community. if you believe it's ok to allow your dog to mutilate someone's property, then I'm not going to change your mind. true dog lovers are GREAT owners...in all ways. the others give us a bad name.....and should have a cat. I can't relate because around here dogs get shot for being on property where they don't belong. I'd never allow that to happen to my dog. in the city??????? I guess it's how you were raised as to how you respect another person's property. it shows what type of person you are to care about someone other than yourself. where you show basic respect instead of convenience.

 

[smkie]

I don't let my dogs walk through peoples flowers. But if they step into the edge of their yard I seriousely do not see the big deal. Like i have said before sometimes you can't avoid walking in someones yard or stepping into for a few minutes to be out of the of an on coming car. I respect people but if it comes down to risk my life or risk your grass im going to risk your grass.

I never walk my dogs directly in someones yard but on my street we don't have side walks so my dogs do step in yards every now and again.

exactly..if they walked through my flower bed i would be anxious but other then that life is too short to stress about a few feetprints on the grass..sigh
i am forever taking someone's dog home and frankly at night i got raccoons and possums (mary always lets me know) as well as rabbits and voles...all tresspass silently and usually undetected by most people leaving no damage behind. If it was a constant occurance by an owner that let their dog urinate so that others would follow suit, that would be a different story but to simply step on the grass in my book is no big deal.

once during a drought a deer had dropped her poor tired bones down in my zinna bed still damp from the last watering..probalby the only cool place for miles around. She did a lot of damage. At first i thought it was the boys horsing around and i wasn't pleased but the more i looked the more i saw a deer sized space and figured it out from there by the nibblings. Who could blame her?

 

[memyselfandmiah]

but don't you see........that's still just wrong. RESPECT...no matter what you perceive the conditions....it's about basic respect.

I agree that it is a respect issue. I DONT see how a 40 lb dog is going to affect their yard by WALKING on it jinstead of the concrete when it is 120 degrees +. I am not going to make my dog walk on the concrete when I can litterally cook an egg on it.

I don't care if someone THINKS my yard isn't nice.......I don't want them here.

I do not let him run all over the yard. I let him walk on it, though. It is just simply easier than making him walk on hot pavement. Would you object to letting a dog walk on your yard instead of walking on (literally) burning hot cement?

If so, sorry. When you are in the desert, I feel that all sorts of allowences can be made

I really have a hard time believing that there is nowhere the dog can get in the grass. For example, many sidewalks have grass between the sidewalk and the roadway. I consider this an OK place for a dog to walk because that is generally considered a "public" space which is controlled by the township, municipality, etc.

Here, where I am (MESA AZ), water is a commodity that the city and county cannot afford to use in projects like community grass. We have basin parks every couple of blocks, but is is a LONG walk to them. Whey dont even get "watered" in the conventional manner. We use flood irrigation for them, and they get "watered" 1 time every two weeks. I am sorry if i seem defensive on the subject, but I still dont see where i go wrong.

 

[Debi]

I agree that it is a respect issue. I DONT see how a 40 lb dog is going to affect their yard by WALKING on it jinstead of the concrete when it is 120 degrees +. I am not going to make my dog walk on the concrete when I can litterally cook an egg on it.



I do not let him run all over the yard. I let him walk on it, though. It is just simply easier than making him walk on hot pavement. Would you object to letting a dog walk on your yard instead of walking on (literally) burning hot cement?

If so, sorry. When you are in the desert, I feel that all sorts of allowences can be made



Here, where I am (MESA AZ), water is a commodity that the city and county cannot afford to use in projects like community grass. We have basin parks every couple of blocks, but is is a LONG walk to them. Whey dont even get "watered" in the conventional manner. We use flood irrigation for them, and they get "watered" 1 time every two weeks. I am sorry if i seem defensive on the subject, but I still dont see where i go wrong.

whatever......read my opinon of responsible dog ownership. OR..do as you please. which obviously you will.

 

[memyselfandmiah]

this is my last post on the subject.

Copy that.

I would like to think that I am a responsiable dog owner. And I think that I am not communicating myself well. I will agree to disagree with you, though. I appreciate that you think that I am not a responsiable dog owner, but I COMPLETLY disagree with you. I feel that if my dog is going to destroy his paws on hot convrete, I will take care of him before I am concerned about some kids romp area. I do not let him ****/deficate on said grass (heck, he wont use the restroom anywhere except on gravel or rock landscaping. )

Anyways, thanks for your opinion. I will tell you that I think that it would be very irresponsiable of you to let your dog destroy his paws on concrete with cool grass just right there.

But I did see that you are still in the freezing part of the country. It is expected to break 100 degrees F today in my town. Maybe you have never been to the desert?

Have a nice day.