Obama Supports Same-Sex Marriage
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Yea that kind of irked me to.
I don't know why Hannah was even brought into this, but okay.
This thread went from 7 pages to 16 in less than probably 2 hours.
I am a Christian, pray every night before I go to bed, I ask my sins be forgiven every night. I cuss like a sailor, I can say hateful things, I have cussed at my mother, I have hit people, but I ask my sins be forgiven.
I have NEVER said so & so can't get married. To me, its none of my business who marries who.
Suzy & Mary want to get married? Ok.
Bob & Joe want to get married? Ok
Katie & John want to get married? Ok.
Doesn't make a difference to me. That is so & so's life, not mine. But nonetheless, I will be happy for them and say congrats on their marriage. Just because I am a Christian doesn't mean I have to hate gays/lesbians for getting married and it doesn't mean that I have to be against equal rights. I am ALL for equal rights.
I also don't care about someone else's religion. Muslim, Catholic, Christian, believing in reincarnation, etc etc? Good for you. That is YOUR belief and yours only.
I know that sounds harsh saying I don't care, but its not ME. That is not what I believe in.
Yall know I was with Charla, for 2 years. Some of the best and worst times of my life were spent with her. Do I regret it? Sometimes. But overall, I learned from it and I asked for forgiveness.
I've been saved. I ask for forgiveness. I believe strongly in my God. I believe in Heaven, Hell, God, the devil. And I also believe that the sun shines out my @ss some mornings. But those are my beliefs.
I don't know why Hannah was even brought into this, but okay.
This thread went from 7 pages to 16 in less than probably 2 hours.
I am a Christian, pray every night before I go to bed, I ask my sins be forgiven every night. I cuss like a sailor, I can say hateful things, I have cussed at my mother, I have hit people, but I ask my sins be forgiven.
I have NEVER said so & so can't get married. To me, its none of my business who marries who.
Suzy & Mary want to get married? Ok.
Bob & Joe want to get married? Ok
Katie & John want to get married? Ok.
Doesn't make a difference to me. That is so & so's life, not mine. But nonetheless, I will be happy for them and say congrats on their marriage. Just because I am a Christian doesn't mean I have to hate gays/lesbians for getting married and it doesn't mean that I have to be against equal rights. I am ALL for equal rights.
I also don't care about someone else's religion. Muslim, Catholic, Christian, believing in reincarnation, etc etc? Good for you. That is YOUR belief and yours only.
I know that sounds harsh saying I don't care, but its not ME. That is not what I believe in.
Yall know I was with Charla, for 2 years. Some of the best and worst times of my life were spent with her. Do I regret it? Sometimes. But overall, I learned from it and I asked for forgiveness.
I've been saved. I ask for forgiveness. I believe strongly in my God. I believe in Heaven, Hell, God, the devil. And I also believe that the sun shines out my @ss some mornings. But those are my beliefs.
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I realize that I am not going to convince you of anything but this statement can be said of all written history, not just the Bible.
Its as simple as this. Either the Bible is 100% true or nothing in it, at ALL, is true. Because God either exists or He does not. Man does not get to pick what God is. Because there are a great many truths in it, even you would agree, then for me, it has to be ALL true.... Because He is GOD.
I see real evidence of the Bible's truth in my life EVERY day. Heck, this thread and how it has gone is just more proof to me that He does exist. I am not going to apologize because Gods way does not fit into man's tidy little idea of what truth is.
For real.... Don't you think it would be easy for me to cave into what the world thinks? To do the easy thing? To agree with what my flesh tells me? "What's wrong with two men getting married?" My flesh says what most here think... "It does no harm". But God has made his commandments on this issue clear. I think I have explained this enough.
Its as simple as this. Either the Bible is 100% true or nothing in it, at ALL, is true. Because God either exists or He does not. Man does not get to pick what God is. Because there are a great many truths in it, even you would agree, then for me, it has to be ALL true.... Because He is GOD.
I see real evidence of the Bible's truth in my life EVERY day. Heck, this thread and how it has gone is just more proof to me that He does exist. I am not going to apologize because Gods way does not fit into man's tidy little idea of what truth is.
For real.... Don't you think it would be easy for me to cave into what the world thinks? To do the easy thing? To agree with what my flesh tells me? "What's wrong with two men getting married?" My flesh says what most here think... "It does no harm". But God has made his commandments on this issue clear. I think I have explained this enough.
Last I checked....God hasn't said a darn thing about anything. Man has. The Bible is man's work.
God is spiritual, the bible is religious. No man can tell you what to believe or trust in, but religion can.
If I were Christain, I would not put my faith into a written book to prove God's existance or not. And no more would I trust an outdated man-written book to dictate my feelings on a civil, modern issue.
God is spiritual, the bible is religious. No man can tell you what to believe or trust in, but religion can.
If I were Christain, I would not put my faith into a written book to prove God's existance or not. And no more would I trust an outdated man-written book to dictate my feelings on a civil, modern issue.
I do believe in God, I don't believe the bible is all true. Been in man's hands too long.
and you don't need to cave and turn gay or even thing two men marrying is ok. BUT, you are afforded by the laws of this country, the right to marry, the obligations and benefits of that, and it also allows you to worship and believe what you want to believe. WITHOUT persecution, without people coming to take away your churches, or your bibles, or telling you can't do things.
WHy can't other people you don't agree with have those same privaleges. The ones promised by our constitution? Marriage isn't exclusive to christians, never has been.
and you don't need to cave and turn gay or even thing two men marrying is ok. BUT, you are afforded by the laws of this country, the right to marry, the obligations and benefits of that, and it also allows you to worship and believe what you want to believe. WITHOUT persecution, without people coming to take away your churches, or your bibles, or telling you can't do things.
WHy can't other people you don't agree with have those same privaleges. The ones promised by our constitution? Marriage isn't exclusive to christians, never has been.
I don't care what anyone believes in as long as it's not hurting anyone else.
Don't believe in gay marriage? Then marry someone of the opposite sex.
Don't believe in sex before marriage? Then wait until you're married to have sex.
Don't believe in living with someone before marriage? Then don't live with someone before marriage.
Don't believe in eating pork? Great, then don't eat pork.
Why should your religious views (and definitions of "sinning") interfere or ruin anyone else's life? I think everyone should love dogs (because dogs are awesome!), but if YOU don't like dogs I am not going to push it on you.
Live and let live.
If you think being gay is a sin, then don't do it. If you think your God is against being gay, let God handle it and put it in his hands. It's NOT your problem.
Don't believe in gay marriage? Then marry someone of the opposite sex.
Don't believe in sex before marriage? Then wait until you're married to have sex.
Don't believe in living with someone before marriage? Then don't live with someone before marriage.
Don't believe in eating pork? Great, then don't eat pork.
Why should your religious views (and definitions of "sinning") interfere or ruin anyone else's life? I think everyone should love dogs (because dogs are awesome!), but if YOU don't like dogs I am not going to push it on you.
Live and let live.
If you think being gay is a sin, then don't do it. If you think your God is against being gay, let God handle it and put it in his hands. It's NOT your problem.
I don't understand how the bible can be the word of God if God himself didn't write it. It was written by man, who is imperfect and sins. If the bible contains words written by those who are imperfect and commit sin, why do the words contained within it dictate what is believed to be the perfect way to live?
Pretty much my thoughts on it. Religion, and therefor the Bible and the Church, are purely man-made, through corruption and greed. If I were to believe in the Judeo-Christian God (and I most certainly do not), I would put my faith in the higher being, and not into man.
Once you take religion out of the equation, I hardly see the point in trying to dictate what others believe and practice. But religion has been doing that for centuries, so, ya know. Old habits die hard and all.
Once you take religion out of the equation, I hardly see the point in trying to dictate what others believe and practice. But religion has been doing that for centuries, so, ya know. Old habits die hard and all.
Most of the monks who wrote the Bible were dictated by the Popes and Kings who were influential at the time - so yes, when I read the Bible from a historic stand point, I most certainly see the greed and advantage those people would have at that time to write such things. And then, of course, you have the Council, who forsake the majority of the Bible because it did not fit their views, and the views of Constantine...
I've only read to page 9. But, I don't get why *some* people who believe in God care about this. Why do YOU care of someone else is "sinning." as long as you're on your way to heaven, why do you care so much about suppressing the rights of others? Leave others alone.
I have no problem with religious people, btw.
I have no problem with religious people, btw.
Actually... no. It is a man's interpretation of gods word. And that is like Chinese whispers.
And not to mention the bible has been translated umpteen times from different languages (ever had fun doing that backwards and forwards and seeing what you end up with?).
And, what the hell did they write it on way back when? So that one 'book' would have been copied time and time again.... flaws much?
And getting in the wrong hands of people who just add that little bit because it suits them...
and so on.
So no, regardless of belief in God, the belief in the bible being the word of God is something TOTALLY different.
And not to mention the bible has been translated umpteen times from different languages (ever had fun doing that backwards and forwards and seeing what you end up with?).
And, what the hell did they write it on way back when? So that one 'book' would have been copied time and time again.... flaws much?
And getting in the wrong hands of people who just add that little bit because it suits them...
and so on.
So no, regardless of belief in God, the belief in the bible being the word of God is something TOTALLY different.