Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by noludoru, May 16, 2013.
I just realized my dog is popular for being an inconsiderate bitch.
Yep. I would steal her if I could. I would then replace her with a nice dog for you.
Long haired Whippet! Not as big as you wanted, but fits a lot of your other criteria. Plus I want pics.
What? They don't shed terribly much... And they aren't terribly barky... But that's about io as far as her list. Oh, and they can be Velcro dogs. They don't really match the other criteria...
They're also not super HEYHEYHEYHEY to strangers, and are medium to high energy. What else was on the list? I'm pretty sure that's all of it lol!
Eh, I wouldn't call them medium to high energy in the way she wants it. Yah, they CAN go all day, but they're just as happy to curl up and sleep all day. They aren't going to bug her to get out.
They're more friendly than your short-haired greys, in terms of being friendly. Prefers owners, but will take any person. They also aren't guard dogs.. At all.. Which I think she said she wants.
I'd never suggest them for this list. :-/ not to mention that they're like, 1/3 - 1/2 the size she wants.
It was just a recommendation, she can pick whatever dog she wants. If she looks at them and they aren't a good fit, how did that hurt anyone? Sorry for posting.
Honestly right now I'm thinking I'm crazy for wanting a fourth.
Or a velcro dog.
Middie has been clingy and borderline panicky - his SA has been ridiculous for the last few weeks. Panting constantly and stressing, pacing endlessly, screaming outside the door if I try to use the bathroom without supervision, wont settle in bed until he's tried to crawl inside my skin. . . It's ridiculous.
So, my dog-want has ebbed quite a bit, and I think that I've decided that I'm going to wait another two+ years before I get another dog - I may even wait until Middie passes away. My reasoning for wanting NextDog within 2-3 years is that I wanted another dog that I could work on manners while I still have an active dog who can go jogging or hiking with me. The reality of the situation is that I have a two-year plan for where I'm living now, and in two years my roommate is moving out of the city and into the mountains, so I'll have to find another place to live. She's open to four dogs in the meantime, but I don't think I am - and I can always borrow hers when I want to do something that I can't bring Middie for.
So, I think I'm going to wait until I'm settled into my next place before seriously considering another dog, unless the perfect one falls into my lap. I'm pretty happy being responsible for the feeding and care of only one dog.
With all that in mind, here's the updated list.
I would also like a breed that could be an off-leash dog. This isn't a requirement, just a want.
Collies and Aussies are basically out because of the likelihood of barking. Goldens might be in the running simply because I can find one in rescue that I'd like, and going through rescue is going to be the easiest/most sensible choice for me.
Dobes are still in because I love them, and, well, I love them. So Sizzle - if Bruda has a relatively chill breeder return in the next 2-3 years, let me know. I love the looks and the temperament of Bruda's dogs.
If I'm going to consider a shedding breed, I might as well continue considering Greyhounds as well - they come straight from the track at the age I want, and occasionally you find higher-energy ones.
Standard Poodles are at the top of the list, because being able to hug my dog before I leave work without getting covered in fur has a major appeal to me. As does never having to vacuum fur out of the house. A Doodle mix is also a definite possibility, because they get even bigger than standards do and tend to be higher energy. I'd either be looking in rescue or for a breeder rehome.
Affies and Zois will always be a consideration - but there's little to no chance of me getting one through rescue. I'd probably have to get a puppy or a breeder rehome.
Bouviers I would also consider, but that's going to involve going the breeder route for sure, and I would prefer not to have a puppy. It also looks like they are double-coated and shed, and might have a very guardy temperament. I haven't met one in person yet, though, so who knows.
You should get a PWD. They would be perfect for you. Similar temperament to Lucy but a little more chill, and no shedding - but a nice long, soft coat! Every one I've met has been Lucy-sized.
Bouves are pure awesome. I grew up with three of them and have a family Bouve. When it comes to shedding I actually notice no hair, pretty much ever. Temperament wise they have all been guardy when needed be, but very much social with people. They are also very much a herding breed. They bark, but not excessively, they are pushy and DA or SSA can pop up in the breed. But I am sure with the right breeder you could find the perfect dog. I would try and meet some and see what you think.
Just to add to my ruminations here, the reason I'm so adamantly against barking and shedding (which, I realize, are totally normal dog-things) is because getting a dog is a lifetime commitment. I committed to Middie before I even realized what I was doing. It's a big decision, and he and I are stuck with one another 'until death do us part.' The next dog is going to receive the same commitment from me, and having a dog I'm happy with for a decade is a big deal to me.
I can't stand constant barking - I did a great job training Middie into being an apartment dog when I was living in VA, and while he does bark (especially if other dogs are barking) he isn't insistent about it. He doesn't bark just to her his own voice like some of the dogs I've lived with, so I can work with it.
I've also got to the point where I can't stand shedding. Living with a lab mix and GSD doesn't help that. I like my clothes to be hair-free and I like to vacuum once a week - not 2x-3x and still noticing hair everywhere. I hate cleaning clumps of hair out of the stairs, I hate having fur on my sheets, I hate cleaning it out of the inside of my shoes. . . Basically, I just hate it. No matter how much a bathe and blow dry or furminate I'll never be able to keep everything under control. I got spoiled when I was living on my own for a few months. I missed Middie so much, but nothing ever got dirty.
So, basically, if I'm making this commitment to a dog for that length of time, I want to make sure I'm not going to be frustrated. I want to hug my dog when I get home from work, not run upstairs and change first.
They sound like they might fit, but the problem is that in my heart of hearts I don't want to get a dog from a breeder - I want to find one that needs a home and doesn't cost a grand or two. Does that make sense? I realize chaz has moved from a "ZOMG RESCUE" forum to a "buy from a responsible breeder!" forum over the last few years, and that might be an unpopular opinion.
If in your heat you want to rescue, then rescue. I personally have nothing against rescue. I think a lot of people in chaz like their breeder dogs, but we all love our rescues as well and a lot of us have rescued.
I found a rescue:http://www.secondchancebouvrescue.com/available.html
And if you look on Petfinder there are actually quite a few Bouviers
I totally get it! It's one of the things stopping me from a few breeds I do really like. I just forget how much hair most dogs have until I'm around the ones that do LOL. Jackson doesn't shed at all, and even my dads long haired Dachshund mix and JRT mix don't shed much. So I just... haven't dealt with hair since I was younger (growing up with a Golden and a GSD). And whenever I think about getting a shedding breed again, I do question if it's worth it, LOL
Someone else who finally understands! LOL
What about a jack Russell? I know they might be a little smaller then what you prefer, but they are "sharper" in temperament and aren't overly "yay yay yay strangers-as-potential-friends!" And have a tendency to be rather aloof. Mine, Bear will accept handling (had to since he was a show dog) and didn't HATE it, but he is very "take it or leave it" about stranger contact. He does love his people though www.terrier.com is a great site to find info and breeders ... There are a few good ones in CO.
Of course, a Doberman is also a great breed too I had a rescued dobe, she was a doll
Golden doodles are also awesome, but whatever you choose I wish you the best of luck .
For the record i TOTALLY agree, i have said since having Bristol, and now Diesel, i will not ever have another shedding dog again, i love Gage, but i dont love his hair, or his drool, from now dogs i have will be non-shedders as well.
Oh mine are terrible. They are shedding, drooling, dirt- rolling rascals ... Ant I love them just the way they are, I couldn't imagine having it any other way . Our house is a ranch style home with linoleum in all the rooms except the master bedroom and the living room, but the dogs don't go there.
Now it's fall, so three of my dogs are blowing their summer coats to get their winter coats, so yes, every day I sweep up hair & I just don't wear any dark or "clingy" fabrics, but I am mostly a jeans girl so if they do happen to run up against me then its no big deal.
Even if next dog doesn't shed it will still likely get dirty and roll in whatever, even if they don't shed they will still make a mess.
We used to have Greyhounds and it took me a while to decide between a Greyhound or a Doberman, but I am glad I chose Kris. All my little dogs are non-shedding but Susie, who is a Bernese cross, makes up for them. After getting her I vowed never to get a long haired shedding dog again.
While this is true, all dogs will get dirty, there really IS a difference ... I dogsit a lot, well used to, and the difference between Jackson and other dogs was huge and I became very appreciative, lol. If you don't live with it for a while, it's hard to go back. Jackson getting dirty compared to a 90lb Rottie getting dirty is a big difference. Even a 35lb Foxhound, I could not BELIEVE how dirty she got my car when I only watched her for 2 nights and drove her in the car for a max of 45 mins. Hair everywhere, drool all over my backseat. Even when Jackson is messy, it's just... still not nearly the amount of mess I've experienced with bigger dogs/high shedding dogs lol. My grandma's Goldendoodle is pretty easy to manage as far as hair goes, he doesn't shed at all and when she gets him groomed, dirt practically falls off of him. But she lucked out, he has a very nice coat. He is HUGE though. lol