New docking laws

[blue]

Im gonna go with Makenzie and others that there are legitimate reasons to dock/crop. If it was purely for a cosmetic or show reason not my thing and I wouldnt do it to any dog I might own. If I where to own a working dog and there where issues for health or injury I would take all consideration for docking/cropping.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Ok, let me see whats my excuse for docking my dog's tail? Oh I've got one, I docked his tail because my mother, who uses a power wheelchair that weighs about 600lbs, might run it over accidently. I'm sure that would leave some damage to the long, skinny tail my dog would have had.

There you go, a purpose for docking my dog's tail. Now, will you lay off me, for real!!!

 

[makenzie71]

Im gonna go with Makenzie and others that there are legitimate reasons to dock/crop. If it was purely for a cosmetic or show reason not my thing and I wouldnt do it to any dog I might own. If I where to own a working dog and there where issues for health or injury I would take all consideration for docking/cropping.

 

[corsomom]

I would also like to know these mental and physical problems cropped and docked dogs have.I have never heard of this.

 

[brock23]

There is a good chance my dog has a mental problem , but I don't think I can trace it back to when he was 3 days old and had his tail docked.

 

[Dobiegurl]

I WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN YOU! In that I find satisfaction!

Wow, that reminds me of elementary school. When kids would argue and say things of that nature. Very immature and childish!!! And you have the nerve to tell US youngsters to grow up, wow is all I can say.

 

[Boxerowner]

I am all for docking and cropping if done by a vet. I have 2 docked and cropped dogs and they are not mental well sometimes they are.

Here are 2 good reasons for docking and cropping if you dont agree then dont crop/dock but its not for anyone to say who is wrong or right it is a personal preference.

Cropped ears, likewise, were the logical, functional addition to complete the Dobermans physical equipment to make him the elite family companion and protection dog that he was, even from the beginning. There are two primary reasons that we desire cropped ears, and both have to do with FUNCTION. The first is that a neatly cropped ear is less of a "handle" for an attacker to hang on to. Since the Doberman has been bred to be a personal protector, a cropped ear gives the dog a decided advantage in a confrontation with a perpetrator. The second has to do with sound "localization". An erect earred dog can localize the source of a sound to within a 5 degree cone, whereas a drop earred dog can only localize a sound source to within a 20 degree cone. Since Dobermans do SEARCH AND DETECTION as well as SEARCH AND RESCUE, cropped ears are a decided advantage.

 

[blue]

Wow, that reminds me of elementary school. When kids would argue and say things of that nature. Very immature and childish!!! And you have the nerve to tell US youngsters to grow up, wow is all I can say.

Abiz is not currently able to defend herself so my advice is to not drag her threw the mud during her absence, be the bigger person as it where.

 

[Dobiegurl]

I am all for docking and cropping if done by a vet. I have 2 docked and cropped dogs and they are not mental well sometimes they are.

There are people out there who probably cut their own dogs ears with rusty scissors. Its a surgical procedure just like any other surgeries.

P.S your boxer pup in the sig is too cute.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Abiz is not currently able to defend herself so my advice is to not drag her threw the mud during her absence, be the bigger person as it where.

What are you? Her lawyer. I was absent for a little while and she continued to bash me. I will be the bigger person but I had to let it be known that age has nothing to do with immaturity. She is a fine example of that.

 

[Boxerowner]

There are people out there who probably cut their own dogs ears with rusty scissors. Its a surgical procedure just like any other surgeries.

P.S your boxer pup in the sig is too cute.

Yep there are.

I almost banded my pups tails myself but I had the vet dock them instead at 3 days old.

I will someday band them when I have more knowledge about how so as not to harm them.

Thank you very much she is my baby

 

[blue]

If you wish to bash or belittle somebody who cant post have at it.

 

[zoe08]

OK I just read all 13 pages of this so I feel that since I went to that trouble I should post something.

I am not totally against docking/cropping. Although I think it best if it is done shortly after they are born. If you want it cropped/docked you should probably get it already done that way.

My parents have a 3/4 cocker that has a docked tail and dew claws removed all done shortly after being born...this is what my friend's parents chose to have done. Had they not I still would have gotten her just the same and not cared whether or not the tail was docked.

Although my personal preference is un cropped ears...I am bias to floppy ears though....

If Im going to pick a breed to buy though I pick a dog that I already like the way it looks. Im not a big fan of cosmetic surgery though, dog or human.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Yep there are.

I almost banned my pups tails myself but I had the vet dock them instead.

I will someday banned them when I have more knowledge about how so as not to harm them.

Thank you very much she is my baby

I would run and take cover if I was you,lol. These people are going to be on you like white on rice for mentioning banding. They don't seem to realize that cropping and docking is not abusive compared to the awful things people do to their animals. Its a shame they compare people who choose to dock and crop their dogs to those who beat their dogs or burn them or all the other awful things people do.

 

[blue]

I would run and take cover if I was you,lol. These people are going to be on you like white on rice for mentioning banding. They don't seem to realize that cropping and docking is not abusive compared to the awful things people do to their animals. Its a shame they compare people who choose to dock and crop their dogs to those who beat their dogs or burn them or all the other awful things people do.

The pups where docked by a vet why should she run to the hills for that? Ive seen bulls casterated by banding. Its kinda a shame you brand us as these people against docking/cropping/banding. What are you Canadian?

 

[Boxerowner]

I would run and take cover if I was you,lol. These people are going to be on you like white on rice for mentioning banding. They don't seem to realize that cropping and docking is not abusive compared to the awful things people do to their animals. Its a shame they compare people who choose to dock and crop their dogs to those who beat their dogs or burn them or all the other awful things people do.

LOL. I dont really care if ppl bash me for wanting to band my pups tails there is no pain involved with banding the tails.

Cropping and docking is not abusive.

If ppl think that it is then what must they think of spay/neuter thats much more pain involved but they get over it and in the end can be much healthier just like in cropping and docking.

Its really just sad that ppl start calling ppl names there are better ways to get their opinion out.

Who uses e- collars on their dogs to me that is abuse but most think that it is humane to me thats like beating your dog but thats just my opinion who am I to tell you not to use one its your dog and personal preference.

PPl just need to play nice and get along we are here to help not humiliate.

 

[JennSLK]

Blue back off with the snide canadian remarks.


I like the look of a croped/docked dobe. I will contiue to crop and dock all dobes i have because I like their looks.

They are also working dogs that will do agility and schutzhund so they will need to be docked for shutzhund

 

[blue]

Blue back off with the snide canadian remarks.


I like the look of a croped/docked dobe. I will contiue to crop and dock all dobes i have because I like their looks.

They are also working dogs that will do agility and schutzhund so they will need to be docked for shutzhund

I have family that are Canadian, none of my coments are snide.

I cant see cropping/docking being an advantage with agility, cant say at all for schutz.

 

[Dizzy]

Well.. You can all argue till the cows come home, but at the end of the day it is out of all your hands, and IS becoming illigal. Well here in England.

Thank god cropping was outlawed when it was. That really IS an out-dated tradition. And totally unnecessary in todays society.

As for the circumcision comparison - well. Humans can speak for themselves, they don't need someone to do it for them. I personally would never circumcise a child, nor pierce it's ears. I think a person should have the right to decide for themselves whether they want holes, bit's chopping off. As for dogs, they can't speak for themselves, so someone will always do it for them. Same with every animal.

You're all for freedom of choice. If that is the case, you must also accept people who choose to have dogs and keep them in a way that YOU don't like. People who fight dogs (their choice - some dogs are bred to fight - it's TRADITION.. Yeah it hurts for a bit, but they get over it. We keep them fit, a sick dog isn't gonna win a fight, is it?). You must accept people who puppy farm (not technically HURTING the dogs - just not YOUR ideal. Not how YOU would keep a dog). Get my point?

People who are against docking and cropping see it as unecessary cosmetics and therefore cruel. They are as passionate about it as YOU all are about BYB's, and dog fighters etc.

You say it is your choice to do what you want to your dog. Can you hear how that sounds?

"Well.. I like my cats with no tail - lop 'em off! It's my choice!"

"I prefer my kids with fuller lips - get out the syringe betty! It's my choice!"

"Chop the dogs ears off sweetie, I prefer them that way! It's my choice!"

"Bandage up my daughters feet - the SMALLER the better!! It's my choice!"

So, if I like my dogs with no hair (too messy), no ears (don't like the look!), no tail (It get's in the way!), unable to bark (too noisy!) can I morally go ahead with it, because it's MY **** dog and I can do what I want to it? Or do I have to consider that it's a living creature, and I should just leave it be?

If you like pointy ears - buy a pointy eared dog. If you don't like tails - then you should consider a different SPECIES.

Well.. Anyway..

Like I say. It already IS becoming illegal. So nothing you can really do anymore..

 

[bubbatd]

Don't you think this has gone on long enough....no one's going to " Win ".