Need Opinion on my New "controversial signature"

[Julie]

The child and gun is what bothers me most here too, I can see an outcome like “give me that toy!” “NO” *Bang!* I’m sure you are doing a good job with them but then again it is a childs job to be highly unpredictable at times lol, also I wonder if there would be any mental implications to somebody who hunted as a child and then later realised that they didn’t want animals killed for their pleasure? I’m not a child psychologist or anything its just a though.

My children have no access to guns unless their father or I are with them.
It is all about learning safety and respect for a firearm. A very slow process, it's not like we hand a child a gun and say go play. I think a child with no firearm education would be the one to fight over the "toy". I can assure you my children have NEVER referred to a gun as a toy.
We also have never forced our children to hunt, well my youngest doesn't hunt. But on occasion does accompany us or my husband. My six year old loves it, and not only the hunt. He also helps skin, process, and wrap any meat. And then lastly eat it.

As for mental implications, I am not worried about that in the least.
This is Not the first generation of my or my husbands families that hunt.
And as far as I know we all are generally stable. LOL
I also have never seen a child raised in a hunting family, and then not continue to partake, it really isn't all about pleasure either.

Think about some kids sitting on the couch day in and day out (no wonder there are so many overweight people in the US) playing those violent video games and shooting people and blowing everyone up. To me this is destroying the minds of our young people. Nothing is real, nothing is final. Everything is fantasy. I just hope these children don't grow up and decide to go out and buy a gun. That is where problems start, in my opinion of course.

I would never let my kids lay around and play those disgusting violent games.
My children will be taught reality and respect. - Not using guns for shooting people in a game.

Now those are just some of my thoughts.

I apprieciate and respect your opinion and thanks for the input.

 

[yuckaduck]

Oh people get over it the child is holding the gun up right. Looks more like he is leaning on it. Man back a thousand years ago children where hunting with their fathers. Julie loves her children very much and there is no way she would ever risk her children.


Leave the peeing guy on and leave the siggy alone. If someone does not like the siggy then put Julie on ignore and you will never see it. Problem solved.

 

[andy.]

We also have never forced our children to hunt, well my youngest doesn't hunt. But on occasion does accompany us or my husband. My six year old loves it, and not only the hunt. He also helps skin, process, and wrap any meat. And then lastly eat it.

At 6 I would have probably gone along on the hunt too (and enjoyed it), but if i had to look back on doing that now it would probably upset me. But then again if I did go hunting as a child maybe I wouldn't be vegetarian now, I doubt it but maybe.

As for mental implications, I am not worried about that in the least.
This is Not the first generation of my or my husbands families that hunt.
And as far as I know we all are generally stable. LOL
I also have never seen a child raised in a hunting family, and then not continue to partake, it really isn't all about pleasure either.

I think it is, even the eating it part I see as pleasure because humans don’t need meat, and vegetarians are usually much healthier.

Think about some kids sitting on the couch day in and day out (no wonder there are so many overweight people in the US) playing those violent video games and shooting people and blowing everyone up. To me this is destroying the minds of our young people. Nothing is real, nothing is final. Everything is fantasy. I just hope these children don't grow up and decide to go out and buy a gun. That is where problems start, in my opinion of course.

Yeah Murderers can start out by copying what they see on TV videogames, but it usually starts out with pulling legs of insects, then moving on to larger animals, then domestic abuse before going on to just murdering anybody by the way I’m not saying your kids are like this, it seems to me the animals aren’t suffering so its not the same.
And the obesity problem in the US – have you ever seen an overweight vegetarian? Lol

I would never let my kids lay around and play those disgusting violent games.
My children will be taught reality and respect. - Not using guns for shooting people in a game.

Now those are just some of my thoughts.

I apprieciate and respect your opinion and thanks for the input.

Yup I totally agree that is a much better childhood for them, I just ask that you emphasize to them that you only hunt to get food, not just because it is fun

Sorry if I seemed offensive to you, I don’t agree totally with you, but in my eyes you are doing a much better job with your kids than most out there. Sat in front of TV/Computer all day, eating loads of junk food, getting fat! And then leaving it to the rest of society to pick up the medical bills

 

[Lexus]

I think your signature is just fine. You're dogs look wonderful at what they do! As for the child with a gun, that's fine by me too. Being a mother that also allows her childern to shoot. We don't hunt, but the boys do know how to use a gun and we all go target shooting as a family. Their father has taught them proper gun usage.

Other than that, the guns are stored in the house, bullets are hidden and completely unaccessable.

 

[bubbatd]

With my Dad and Husband being hunters, I was used to seeing strings of ducks and pheasants hanging for " ripening ". Everything was eaten. My son went hunting with his Dad at a young age. It taught him respect of guns and nature. I doubt if any of the punks with guns today ever had such teachings. As far as the little guy peeing... I just keep wondering when he's going to finish !

 

[Julie]

And the obesity problem in the US – have you ever seen an overweight vegetarian? Lol

Well actually no. I don't think I have ever met one. LOL
Besides reading some posts on here.

 

[Julie]

And thanks to everyone for your replys.

I really apprieciate it.

Julie.

 

[GlassOnion]

I don't think the violent video game argument flies.

Video games are just a scapegoat for bad parenting.


I use me and my friends as an example. I've always played violent video games. I remember when I was younger my mom introduced me (yes, introduced me) to Wolfenstein. That was a very violent game at the time.

We actually played that game together (I was...hmm 7 or 8 I guess?). Me, my mom, my dad, and my sister would play that game together, be freaked out by the bad guys coming out, laugh at the weird way the bosses would die. It was fun.

But it's not a cartoonish game either. The game depicts blood and you kill everything from soldiers to dogs (German Shepherds to be exact, for some reason they correlated those with Nazis and put them in).


I then moved on from Wolfenstein to Doom, then Doom to Delta Force, then DF to Half-Life, then Half-Life to Counter-Strike, and finally CS to Grand Theft Auto.

I've played violent video games all my life, they're fun.


But I've never had the urge to pick up a gun and just shoot someone. I know what guns do. I've seen guns do it ever since I was 7. I know when you shoot the bad guy he goes away, sure. But I also applied that same logic to good guys, or people in general. Death is final, I think every kid realizes that.

If they don't, blame it on the parents for doing such a shitty job of raising their kid. Don't blame it on the games.

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Julie, it is great to see your dogs doing what they were intentionally bred to do and your hubby seems just content. You babies are darlings and I hope they had fun doing what they do. BTW I love the little peeing guy also, as long as he isnt peeing on a ford

 

[Denaluvscorgis]

I have nothing against people hunting for food, but I wouldn't want to hunt. I don't like to look at any living creature dead myself though, and I do have to admit that a young child holding a gun does disturb me a bit. I wasn't raised around hunting though. It really bothers me to see hunters out on the road displaying the deer or elk heads on their truck, I feel it's degrading to the life of the creature. These are just my feelings on the subject. I do however respect others points of view, and the differences we all have.

 

[Dreeza]

And the obesity problem in the US – have you ever seen an overweight vegetarian? Lol

lol, OH YES....i have actually met many.,...i remember hearing some one say that they were a vegeterian...i was like dayum, never woulda guessed that, hahah

but anyways...think about it...they can still eat all the candy and carbs they want, along with lots of ice cream, and other really fatty foods.

the reason it seems so uncommon is cause vegetartians are not nearly as common as ppl who eat meat...not to mention that people dont walk around with signs on their heads proclaiming whether or not they are vegetarians...i bet if they did, you would be shocked at how many overweight people, are in fact, vegetarians.

 

[rottnpagan]

Okay since I received a PM from a member regarding my new signature I would like to see others views on it.

Do you feel scared, sickened, or offended by the content of my new signature?

Haven't read through the rest of the responses, but I'm not offended. Hunting is fun and we eat what we kill, so it's yummy food too.

Some people will get offended over the smallest perceived thing... especially on the internet.

 

[rottnpagan]

I can understand your opinion. But my children are taught the utmost respect for firearms.

The firearm problems start when children do not respect and have not been taught gun safety. Both my children understand the outcome of a gunfire.

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More parents should teach gun safety to their children instead of getting guns for themselves and then trying to hide them, (which a kid will find) and the child not knowing the outcome a gun will inflict.

I was raised hunting and shooting too. I used to hunt rabbit and partridge (I guess you guys call them grouse down there!) when I was 3 or 4 years old with Dad and when I was 10, I was scouting my own rabbits on my own with a .22 rifle. We also knew how to breakdown the gun and clean it. And you damned well DID NOT EVER point a gun, loaded or not, at another person.

We had, and have, respect for guns. And so do my two sons.

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Teaching a child the significance of owning and using a gun in the proper manner is a lesson that takes alot of time. I see nothing wrong with children if they are taught correctly to go hunting etc. Here in Utah a child until they are 14 can not get a hunting license and they have to complete 3 months of hunter safety before they are granted a license. I believe it is at the descretion of the parents to decided how old they should be and when they should be allowed to handle weapons. Granted there are alot of incidents out there with teens and even younger kids and guns, but that is another thread on its own. Teach children correctly to respect a gun and I think they will do just fine.

 

[oc_spirit]

I have never hunted before (just could never bring myself to shoot something) but I have shot since a child. Both hand guns and rifles! My aim was decent, now it's crap cause I haven't shot in so long but I'm hoping to go to the range soon to get it back! Its actually a really good talent to have.

 

[Richie12345]

I've been wanting to hunt for so long... Julie, can Cooper and I come with you on your next hunting trip?

 

[bubbatd]

Rottn.....oh how good those partridge of yore were !!! I have the best recipe I used to do with wild rice.

 

[Rubylove]

I have to say, I'm not into hunting, but if it's your thing, then it's certainly not offensive. I wouldn't think that something that you're proud of and that is part of your lifestyle and your beliefs is a problem - you're not portraying it in an offensive way. Especially if you eat what you hunt. That makes a big difference to me. Hunting just for the sake of killing I find repugnant, but for food, or survival it's a different story.

I can't even kill mosquitoes or go fishing, though, cos I'm a big wuss like that, but it doesn't mean that other people can't do it!

 

[kelbel]

Julie- I think your sig pictures are very nice. I can understand people being concerned about your son holding the gun, although it sounds like you have everything under control. I cannot imagine why anyone would be offended by the ducks or anything else in those pictures. And I really like the fact that there are crates in the back of the truck. I get VERY ANGRY when people let their dogs ride in the open bed of a pickup uncrated.