Need Opinion on my New "controversial signature"
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And you know, that is fine. We come from different backgrounds. I think the main thing is to respect the way of life for different people. Which you have just done.
Everyone has their own agenda.
If you eat a hamburger, what is wrong with a duckburger? Or is it just the thought of doing all the preperation in home, and not buying it ready to fry from the grocery store? Or the thought of killing it?? That burger had to be killed sometime. I am just wondering, cause the different views people have are very interesting.
Everyone has their own agenda.
If you eat a hamburger, what is wrong with a duckburger? Or is it just the thought of doing all the preperation in home, and not buying it ready to fry from the grocery store? Or the thought of killing it?? That burger had to be killed sometime. I am just wondering, cause the different views people have are very interesting.
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Actually, I don't eat meat. I'm a vegetarian. About two years ago, whenever I ate meat, I started thinking about the animal I was eating, that maybe it had died a painful death, I felt guilty, so I couldn't eat meat. I have eaten meat a couple of times in the last two years, by accident (not knowing there was meat in a dish of food), but yesterday I ate two chicken nuggets because I was hungry and they smelled good. But most of the time, no meat. I'll probably eat meat maybe, I dunno, once a year or something. I like being a vegetarian and don't really have any problem with not eating meat....I like vegetables and fruits well enough and have fun making myself vegetarian dishes.
Funny thing is, my sister (who eats meat) thinks it's gross to give the dogs raw meat, while I (a vegetarian) loves to hand my dogs meat and sit there and watch them rip the meat off, swallow it, and then crunch down on the bones....I think it's fun to see what they were made to do.
I am against taking a gun and shooting an animal for sport. I don't think people that do it are evil, but I don't agree with it.
Funny thing is, my sister (who eats meat) thinks it's gross to give the dogs raw meat, while I (a vegetarian) loves to hand my dogs meat and sit there and watch them rip the meat off, swallow it, and then crunch down on the bones....I think it's fun to see what they were made to do.
I am against taking a gun and shooting an animal for sport. I don't think people that do it are evil, but I don't agree with it.
One could argue that humans were made to eat meat too though.
Without it you have to take protein pills (or something like that, whatever it is that meat gives you) and that's not normal.
Regardless I have no qualms with eating meat. The deaths aren't painful (at least I doubt they are, no one knows for sure). They're slaughtered sure, but it's not like the people who do it just hack and slash at them while they're still alive.
But to each his own.
Without it you have to take protein pills (or something like that, whatever it is that meat gives you) and that's not normal.
Regardless I have no qualms with eating meat. The deaths aren't painful (at least I doubt they are, no one knows for sure). They're slaughtered sure, but it's not like the people who do it just hack and slash at them while they're still alive.
But to each his own.
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Well, in my case it is not only for sport, we do eat everything taken. And our freezer looks like a wild game feed. But in reality in our situation it is not only a sport, it is a way of life. And our dogs reap the benefits too. (I always share) Now some of the icky meats like raccoon and squirrel, I don't eat. But my hubby and kids do.
fillyone said:
I have no problem with the ducks in the photos, though I'm not really fond of the child holding the gun.
But that's just me
But that's just me
The firearm problems start when children do not respect and have not been taught gun safety. Both my children understand the outcome of a gunfire.
My son at 5 years old shot his first deer last year.
At 5 he shot his first dove.
This year during youth season he shot his second deer.
This is with my husband present but my son holding, scoping, and firing by himself.
More parents should teach gun safety to their children instead of getting guns for themselves and then trying to hide them, (which a kid will find) and the child not knowing the outcome a gun will inflict.
My kids know that the gun is deadly and what you point at, better be a target that is consumable. And they never would touch a gun unless we are there. And yes I have put on staged circumstances to see if they would do the right thing. And both of them always come get daddy. I am very proud of their upbringing and their knowledge at this stage.....which is to never touch a gun, unless mommy or daddy is right there helping them.
But thank you for your concern.
I grew up in a town with a population of 10,000 people. The town was at least an hour and a half (across mountain ranges) to any larger town so it was very rural.
I understand and appreciate everything you have said. I heard it in that small town over and over again.
For almost all of the families everything you and they said went that way. For those that didn't it was devastating.
A child is a child and no child should handle a gun.
I understand and appreciate everything you have said. I heard it in that small town over and over again.
For almost all of the families everything you and they said went that way. For those that didn't it was devastating.
A child is a child and no child should handle a gun.
Well everyone has their own way of life and their own opinion.
It is not for everyone.
It takes a very dedicated/responsible parent to allow gun use.
So I guess in a way you are right for most parents.
Because alot of them don't know gun safety themselves!! but in my circumstances it is the way of our life.
I will agree to disagree on this one, and no hard feelings.
But like on many subjects on a forum, you will never change a persons mind ; whether it be mine...or yours.
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http://www.factoryfarming.com/index.htm
That seems to have a good explination. It's the thing where animals are just treated as tools to be tolerated until they get big enough to slaughter. Don't get me wrong I don't mind raising animals to be eaten, but they should at least raise them humainly.
That seems to have a good explination. It's the thing where animals are just treated as tools to be tolerated until they get big enough to slaughter. Don't get me wrong I don't mind raising animals to be eaten, but they should at least raise them humainly.
It's as much about a child killing something as it is about gun safety for me.
And you're right, you won't change my mind and I won't change yours. But perhaps by having a non-aggressive disagreement in a public forum, we can make others think
Not only about what it is that "we're" disagreeing on, but that two people can feel passionate about something and discuss it without resorting to name calling and juvenile antics!
And you're right, you won't change my mind and I won't change yours. But perhaps by having a non-aggressive disagreement in a public forum, we can make others think
Not only about what it is that "we're" disagreeing on, but that two people can feel passionate about something and discuss it without resorting to name calling and juvenile antics!
fillyone said:
It's as much about a child killing something as it is about gun safety for me.
And you're right, you won't change my mind and I won't change yours. But perhaps by having a non-aggressive disagreement in a public forum, we can make others think Not only about what it is that "we're" disagreeing on, but that two people can feel passionate about something and discuss it without resorting to name calling and juvenile antics!
And you're right, you won't change my mind and I won't change yours. But perhaps by having a non-aggressive disagreement in a public forum, we can make others think
Not only about what it is that "we're" disagreeing on, but that two people can feel passionate about something and discuss it without resorting to name calling and juvenile antics!
And thanks for your input. Diversity really makes the world interesting.
Julie.
Sorry but that's another case of why you can't believe everything you read.
From what I've seen these 'factory farms' are merely part of the process of where you get your meat. The people who run them go through great lengths and expenses to maintain the buildings those animals live in.
Hell the buildings even have concrete floors for the pigs to stand on. While not terribly comfortable for you or me it does keep their skeletal positions in line a lot better than a dirt floor which would be a lot more uncomfortable for the pig.
These 'factory farms' are a lot more humane and well managed than that site wants you to believe.
They have to be or the owner loses profit. A dead pig who doesn't meet the standards is of no use to them. They have to keep them alive til they're slaughtered.
From what I've seen these 'factory farms' are merely part of the process of where you get your meat. The people who run them go through great lengths and expenses to maintain the buildings those animals live in.
Hell the buildings even have concrete floors for the pigs to stand on. While not terribly comfortable for you or me it does keep their skeletal positions in line a lot better than a dirt floor which would be a lot more uncomfortable for the pig.
These 'factory farms' are a lot more humane and well managed than that site wants you to believe.
They have to be or the owner loses profit. A dead pig who doesn't meet the standards is of no use to them. They have to keep them alive til they're slaughtered.
To be honest it does bother me a bit BUT I applaud your family for getting the meat yourselves , I think that if you want to eat meat you should be prepared to catch it and kill it yourself, That way most of the animals life is free and the death can be quick. I have talked to people in the past who say that they would never kill an animal but eat meat and I cant believe comments like that, people need to know what it actually feels like, also I have had things said to me like I don’t want to think about it, but if people don’t want to think about it I believe its because deep down they know that it is wrong. Also must meat comes from very inhumane places so this method is a lot better in my opinion, by just blindly going in and buying meat of supermarket shelves people are contributing to the suffering.
The child and gun is what bothers me most here too, I can see an outcome like “give me that toy!” “NO” *Bang!* I’m sure you are doing a good job with them but then again it is a childs job to be highly unpredictable at times lol, also I wonder if there would be any mental implications to somebody who hunted as a child and then later realised that they didn’t want animals killed for their pleasure? I’m not a child psychologist or anything its just a though.
, I think that if you want to eat meat you should be prepared to catch it and kill it yourself, That way most of the animals life is free and the death can be quick. I have talked to people in the past who say that they would never kill an animal but eat meat and I cant believe comments like that, people need to know what it actually feels like, also I have had things said to me like I don’t want to think about it, but if people don’t want to think about it I believe its because deep down they know that it is wrong. Also must meat comes from very inhumane places so this method is a lot better in my opinion, by just blindly going in and buying meat of supermarket shelves people are contributing to the suffering.The child and gun is what bothers me most here too, I can see an outcome like “give me that toy!” “NO” *Bang!* I’m sure you are doing a good job with them but then again it is a childs job to be highly unpredictable at times lol, also I wonder if there would be any mental implications to somebody who hunted as a child and then later realised that they didn’t want animals killed for their pleasure? I’m not a child psychologist or anything its just a though.
As long as the animal is caught to be eaten (or some other such use!) and not just for the pure hell of it, I have no problems. An not being an expert at all, I assume being shot is pretty quick way to go...
I do not, on the other hand, condone blood sports.
I also understand, that your way of life is completely and utterly removed from the way of life in the UK (well, the majority of it - there are lots of people who hunt - but mostly for pleasure, which... I dislike).
I do not, on the other hand, condone blood sports.
I also understand, that your way of life is completely and utterly removed from the way of life in the UK (well, the majority of it - there are lots of people who hunt - but mostly for pleasure, which... I dislike).