Ludwig my Pug!

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My quick opinion--I don't care where your dog came from, I don't care what color your dog is.... he's clearly loved and well taken care of, bottom line. My only "issue" is that, if it's not possible for him to be purebred.... then there's nothing wrong with admitting it. If you enjoy him and are happy with him, then who cares if he has a little boston terrier or french bulldog or whatever mixed in?
^^Completely agree
 

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Whew! That took me a whole cuppa coffee to read through!
OP, welcome to Chaz, cute pup!
If you deliberately got a non standard color dog, seems to me like I'd be growing a thicker skin. Its kind of like when people get great danes then complain that everyone comments on how big they are.
Obviously you know pugs don't come in brindle as you admit your breeder is trying to reintroduce the color. So you KNOW that most dog people will not have seen a brindle pug and therefor you're going to get comments on it.
If you didn't want the comments don't go out of your way to get a nonstandard dog. :)

Just in case its not clear, I have nothing in the world against mutts and mismarks, in fact my whole crew right now is made up of exactly that. Two "all american dogs" and two merle great danes. 'Cept mine are rescues and I didn't deliberately support irresponsible breeding practices when I acquired them.

And yes, I do think it is irresponsible for a breeder to focus on color (unless we're talking about avoiding health problems associated with certain colors like not breeding merles to avoid sensory defects).
With a breed like pugs who suffer from so many health problems anyway, its incomprehensible to me that a breeder would focus on bringing back brindle instead of say trying to clear their line of hip and knee problems.
In other words, this:
That said... are we really supporting and defending a breeder who appears only to be breeding for new colors? I have no problem with breeders breeding for new colors as long as they are still being responsible breeders - health testing, and proving their dogs in some sort of venue. What I will not support is a BYB whose main goal is to introduce or bring back color, just for color's sake.

Yes, the majority of show pug breeders have made their breed into an abomination - fat, flabby dogs with smooshed faces that can't seem to do anything except waddle around a show ring. But does that automatically mean that every non-show Pug breeder is acceptable and worthy of defending? I sure hope not! One faction's negative impact on a breed do not negate the wrongdoing and irresponsibility of another.
Based on the above, I find it incredibly frustrating that you would happily go to this breeder again. :(
Everyone makes mistakes, and when one knows better hopefully one does better. Knowing better and still choosing to perpetuate the cycle of irresponsible breeding is disappointing to say the least.
 

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it's been 13 pages and everybody's said their piece....is it too much to hope for an "agree to disagree" situation here?
 

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Ludwig is ADORABLE - and I love his name! Welcome to Chaz. :) I hope you continute to post pictures of Ludwig as he grows! I just want to smoosh his adorable little face! :) He's precious!
 

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Everyone can say they are a mix if they want, doesn't matter to me anymore. :popcorn: So, if you have that to say, feel free to move on, as it's your opinion and not mine, so I am sticking with my own opinion.
I don't think a dog's genetic make-up is really a matter of opinion... :confused:
 

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Hey welcome to chaz, to u and Ludwig ;) he sure is adoooorabe. His name reminds me of The palace i visited in Austria (belongs to Ludwig II). I look forward to seeing more of Ludwig's photos and read his adventure :)

I don't think a dog's genetic make-up is really a matter of opinion... :confused:
Sure it is. I've just now decided that my Chihuahuas are Great Danes, so you must all refer to them as such from now on.
This made me giggle lol

I've always thought that my two maltsese are labrador retrievers in a maltese body or fish in a dog's body :lol-sign:

Ok, i think I am sticking to "fish" being Snowy & Crystal's actual breed. Period. I swear, it is VERY hard to keep them out of the water. I am no longer kidding! Lately, Crystal also learned a new habit of dropping ball outta her mouth in the pool then Snowy dives after it. I have a couple of nut cases here!!!

Back to topic - i do think that everyone posted their thoughts and think that it is time to move on :)
 
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If one thinks he is not a Pug, when he is, that's their opinion. :) People can mock it all they want, doesn't get them anywhere.
 

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If one thinks he is not a Pug, when he is, that's their opinion. :) People can mock it all they want, doesn't get them anywhere.
Or if you think he is a Pug, when he isn't one. You're just wrong. He is definitely not a Pug nor are his parents Pugs. They're mixes.

I don't care what your dog is, just don't go calling him a purebred Pug when he isn't one. As i said in my first post, i've seen many "Buggs" who are Pug/Boston crosses just like yours and they're cute and tend to have good temperments. They're just not Purebred Pugs and should be referred to as Pug Mixes (heck if you wanna call them Buggs too go right ahead, but don't call them Purebred Pugs).
 

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Soooo...where in history does that color in the middle come from? some ancient pointer blood? Heeler, perhaps?



And here is my Neopolitan Mastiff, followed by my miniature schnauzer



 

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You can watch old Lassie videos and say she was a pug. That's not an opinion, that's just being ignorant.
 

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