Letting cats free Roam outside

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Maybe I'm just a tad sensitive tonight, but I find it a bit insulting that you think it's just a lack of patience? I have patience, but my heart tells me he's not happy and I'm struggling with that...

Frankly I wish with all my heart Minnie and Nuts had been outside 6 weeks ago, if they had I'd still have them... But it was cold and icy, not weather they would consider going out in
I'm sorry i insulted you i think with most people, who are doing this transition it's a lack of patience, because of the fuss the cat makes.. I understand you feel like he may not be happy with it, and that's true he probably isn't happy with it. He's an animal though and he can't make the choice, he would get over it if you chose to keep in indoors.
 
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Any cat can be kept indoors, it's just whether or not the owner has the patience to deal with the cats antics
It's not the antics that is my issue, though it may be for some. It's the quality of life. Maybe you can supply your cat with equal amounts of enrichment, maybe your indoor cat is just as happy as my outdoor cat and maybe your cat will live ten extra years.

But I don't care about your cat. I care about mine and I care about what I think does right by them and us. Not you or your cats.
 

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Joy is kept outside during the day in good weather and is 17 years old now... Has always been indoor/outdoors. She goes in at night in the garage. Spends her days on the porch or in the flower beds- I never see her far from the house.

I don't know that I'd want an outdoor cat because I worry so much about them. I worry even when Joy doesn't come right away and it only takes her a few minutes usually to come when called.

I think if he were mine, I'd try walking him or something like that first and then go from there. See how he takes to that kind of outdoor time then go from there.

Another reason I probably won't ever have a cat.
 

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What about a cat proof fenced area? Benefits of outside, but safer for the cat and wildlife. We did that with my parents' last cat and it literally saved his life since he was being beat up by other cats outside but would have stress related diarrhea if kept exclusively indoors.
 

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What about a cat proof fenced area? Benefits of outside, but safer for the cat and wildlife. We did that with my parents' last cat and it literally saved his life since he was being beat up by other cats outside but would have stress related diarrhea if kept exclusively indoors.
This is also another good idea, i haven't done it but i've seen some really nice out door "cat kennels"
 

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It's not the antics that is my issue, though it may be for some. It's the quality of life. Maybe you can supply your cat with equal amounts of enrichment, maybe your indoor cat is just as happy as my outdoor cat and maybe your cat will live ten extra years.

But I don't care about your cat. I care about mine and I care about what I think does right by them and us. Not you or your cats.
I don't expect you or anyone else to care about my cats, my cats aren't a menace to other people or animals outside of my home there is no reason for anyone outside of my home to care about what they are doing, because it doesn't effect them or the environment..
 
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Again I'm not just rural but super rural!

That dot is my GPS, there's a farmhouse across the road, and one to the one side and that's it for a long, long ways!
This biggest thing I would pay attention to is those country roads. It seems that the roads that cars don't come down often and when they do it's faster seem to be a bigger danger to cats because they don't get used to avoiding it because cars are more seldom.
 

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This biggest thing I would pay attention to is those country roads. It seems that the roads that cars don't come down often and when they do it's faster seem to be a bigger danger to cats because they don't get used to avoiding it because cars are more seldom.
Traffic is pretty tame, but yes the road would be the biggest concern if he were to wander, my boys tended to go back to the old barn and behind the house so hopefully he'd do the same, the boys were almost always within a couple minutes when called, but again this guy could be different, I'll wait him out a bit longer, and see what happens
 
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Traffic is pretty tame, but yes the road would be the biggest concern if he were to wander, my boys tended to go back to the old barn and behind the house so hopefully he'd do the same, the boys were almost always within a couple minutes when called, but again this guy could be different, I'll wait him out a bit longer, and see what happens
Yeah none of ours wandered far either! I just remember from my grandmothers house in rural Wisc she had a country road right outside her house and it was a concern sometimes with the cats.
 

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I'm with Linds.

I have 3 cats. Tiger, my bengal/tabby mix is indoor 99.9% of the time. He isn't hurting the environment.. I think that statement is BS. I don't care how much it's "proven" my cat isn't a nuisance. So not every domesticated cat is hurting the environment... How do I know this? Because I go out with him every.single.time. If it's cold out we don't go out.

And no, I don't walk him on a harness. All he does is goes by our garage, rolls in the dirt and basks in the sun for awhile. He isn't taking food from natural predators. He doesn't go out by himself so I know what he is up to. I can't shut him 100% indoors because he likes to roll in the dirt and bask in the sun. He isn't hurting anything or anyone.
 

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My big concern about cats here- and it might not be as bad for you where you are- is coyotes. We see them traipsing through my dad's yard (in a subdivision) every now and then. I see them out of the neighborhood but nearby more often and we catch them on the game cams too.
 

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I'm with Linds.

I have 3 cats. Tiger, my bengal/tabby mix is indoor 99.9% of the time. He isn't hurting the environment.. I think that statement is BS. I don't care how much it's "proven" my cat isn't a nuisance. So not every domesticated cat is hurting the environment... How do I know this? Because I go out with him every.single.time. If it's cold out we don't go out.

And no, I don't walk him on a harness. All he does is goes by our garage, rolls in the dirt and basks in the sun for awhile. He isn't taking food from natural predators. He doesn't go out by himself so I know what he is up to. I can't shut him 100% indoors because he likes to roll in the dirt and bask in the sun. He isn't hurting anything or anyone.
It's completely different if you are supervising your cat every single time it goes outside.If you bring your cat outside and watch it, or if your cat literally stays in your yard i do not have a problem with it.
 

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Coyotes are an issue, though they aren't as active close to the house through the day, but that's one reason is want to have him on the same schedule as the boys, always in before dark, it's not fail proof but it has always worked for me
 

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http://catioshowcase.com/

^Resource for ideas for outdoor cat enclosures.
My old neighbor had a gorgeous screened in addition like those built on just for her cats. I was jealous.

Smellycat (formerly known as Evilcat) is outdoor only. If it's down to freezing at night I crate her in a little dog crate and bring her inside.

For her, it's not a matter of tolerating antics. It's a matter of safety and hygiene. She craps and pees and pukes EVERYWHERE. It's been like that since she was a kitten. She's been to the vet multiple times to rule out UTIs and other health issues. She's just... special. I can't have my kids living in a house that reeks of cat urine and eww. Just. No.

We try to minimize nature damage done by her. We've got 9 occupied birdhouses just outside the front door. They're all screened/blocked off so that the birds can fly through the screen and she can't fit. Incidentally, this also prevents the crows and jays from evicting the songbird babies. So far there have been no fatalities of resident birds.

She is really great at catching and killing non native rats though. One time she killed a litter of european mink kits, which are responsible for killing off our native tiny cute weasels. She's okay with me as long as she stays outdoors.
 

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Yah, I'd agree with the outdoor cat enclosure? My friend in Australia made with for her cat quite easily (I think she just used PVC pipes and screening you can find at any home store) and he loves it -- he has the choice to be inside or out, and during the summer he tends to stay out all the time. He's safe from everything, though :)
 
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Coyotes are an issue, though they aren't as active close to the house through the day, but that's one reason is want to have him on the same schedule as the boys, always in before dark, it's not fail proof but it has always worked for me
That's what we do too. Always have done a can of cat food before dark so they get on a good schedule and are rewarded for coming back.
 

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