"Kombat Kennels" in our subdivision...

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Ugh. We were walking Wrigley yesterday evening when we walked by a house which had cars with decals reading Kombat Kennels--with a picture of a pit bull and a spiked collar. My husband then commented that he noticed yesterday that half of their two car garage was being built into some sort of kennel it looked like. I went to the site and this is what I found
http://www.kombatkennels.com/

I'm glad they have information about the dames and sires and the information about being against BSL and about not selling for illegal purposes but there's just something that give me a bad vibe about it being called "Kombat" and that its all about breeding the biggest and most muscle bound dogs possible...am I overreacting?
 

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Hmm well this is what I gathered from there site..

Bitch one, "Jewels" is only 1 year and 6 months old and weighs in at 75lbs and 15inchs tall.

Bitch two, "Sydney" has no mention of age but weighs in around 65lbs and according to the sight has strong game dog instincts and as such would produce pups ideal for agility, weight pull or a family pet.

Bitch 3, "Ellie" is for sale for $300 ( seems pretty cheap but maybe pitties are normally that price) and is a black pit with no mention of age, just that she's still growing and her pedigree.

Bitch 4, "Star" (who's very cute) is a mix of razor's edge/Wathdog ( have no idea what lines those are) but is said to have a sweet disposition. Again no mention of age, weight or height or tests done ( not sure if bully's usually get hip and such testing done).

Bitch 5, "Sugar" is pure white with a brown nose and is a mix of Sorrell's, Garner's, Mason's and Watchdog bloodlines ( again I have no idea if these are notable lines or not). Weighs around 70-75lbs but again no mention of age, height or tests done. Does mention she has a sweet disposition and they expect big game pups from her.

Bitch 6, "Skyla" is their smallest bitch weighing in around 40-45lbs. No mention of age, height or tests done just that she's of Razor edges X something bloodlines and has a sweet disposition.

Bitch 7, " Tundra" ( my second favourite dog based on apperances) has no mention of wieght, age, size, tests done or disposition. Just her pedigree which consisits of Gotti and Razor's Edge.

Then come the studs.

Stud number one, "Tonka" (also pretty cute) consists of Gotti, York and Nevada bloodlines. No mention of age, size, temperment but I do like how there are pictures of him inside, around another dog and not just chained outside like alot of pit websites.

Stud number 2, "Harley" weighs in at 98lbs with a 25lb head. Is said to have a wonderful temperment and is ADBA certified as a silver pit with red nose. I'm unsure of how legit that is but am again happy to see him in pictures around his humans, unchained and with another dog.

Stud number 3, "Malcom" is the Mason's Champion Hog and is a game dog with alot of drive. Is mainly black.

Lastly Stud number 4, " Capone" is from AC Pitbulls also in Indianna. Also like that his pics are inside with his humans and he looks happy.


The overall website itself seemed very aggressive and despite there being avid anti-bsl advertising on the page it seemed very childish at times for example look at this statement on there home page... ,"We don't fool around with junk CKC or APBR dogs, only true AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIERS are bred on our grounds. Unless it's UKC, ADBA, or ABKC (American Bully Kennel Club) it's not a real pitbull so don't waste your time with all those posers out there trying to pass bullshit dogs off as the real deal!"

This one also threw me off,"Buying a pitbull should be a joyous experience, not one that breaks the bank! Which is why we even accept trades for ITEMS on our dogs!"

Besides that the dogs themselfs all look to be around the AKC standard the only thing which threw me off was the huge weight differences among the studs and weight differences among the bitchs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't they more be around the same size.

I'm also unsure if pitties are regularly tested for hip displyasia and so on but none of their dogs appeared to be, though they got a few points from me for having their dogs inside and around other dogs in most pictures and not just chained outside.

I've never been good at disecting breeders websites as they usually all look poorly done to me.

Kayla
 

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Our bloodlines consist mainly of Gottiline, Razor's Edge, York, Nevada, and Watchdog. From these and other top bloodlines we strive to produce massive bone structured dogs with tons of muscle and all the drive you should expect from a pitbull. Contact us for your next puppy purchase!
Okay......:rolleyes:

These are those new breed American Bully dogs. They are not APBT's and I will never accept them as APBT's. They are ruining the standards, the name, and the publics perception.

They are not up to ADBA standards, are bred for size and color (that rare blue color :confused: ) and from what I understand, have had other breeds crossed in to increase body size and mass. Such as Mastiff's and Am Bull's.

BYB's of dogs riding on the name American Pit Bull Terrier. Call them Bully's, call them American Bully's, but don't call them APBT's.

These are the type of kennels that your average "let's put a chain around my dogs neck as a collar and prove how tough I am" types buy from. This is also where people get the idea that APBT's are large dogs. The largest APBT I've ever seen personally......54 lbs. He was huge in my eyes. Most weigh in between 30 - 45 lbs, not up to 100 or more lbs. Disgusting.:(

Obviously, they are not to my taste and I am offended that they even think they can call them APBT's. If they changed the name of the breed it wouldn't bother me as much, as they are using my breeds name to sell their mutts.

Ack....gross :yikes:
 

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The good news is they're probably telling the truth when they say they don't sell dogs for dog fighting. (Their dogs look too chunky and in some cases overweight to be good fighters.)

The bad news is that, holy cow, those dogs are a gross parody of pit bulls.

The further bad news is that they don't mention health testing at all and are breeding some of their dogs before 2 years old.

Looks like a plain ol' BYB in it for the money . . .
 
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I wish there was something I could do! I don't know how many of the dogs are on site in our subdivision but I would think the maximum that that size house and yard could handle would probably be 4-5 at most. It's a house similar to ours (probably 1200 sq feet) and the yard is like ours--very tiny--something like 12x18 or so. I don't know how new they are to the neighborhood but I've never seen a bully breed out for a walk ever--and we walk Wrigley most every night at different times--there's a few people who have pits in our neighborhood and they are what I believe is for 'status' only--caged all day and all night or left in the backyard to bark and be frustrated--makes me soooo mad!
 

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Check your laws. Some states/counties have resctrictions on the number of dogs you can own, and they might need a breeder's liscense or something. There also might be laws for nuisance barkers!!!
 

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The good news is they're probably telling the truth when they say they don't sell dogs for dog fighting. (Their dogs look too chunky and in some cases overweight to be good fighters.)
The bad news is that, holy cow, those dogs are a gross parody of pit bulls.

The further bad news is that they don't mention health testing at all and are breeding some of their dogs before 2 years old.

Looks like a plain ol' BYB in it for the money . . .
Good news maybe, but the bad news is these are the types of dogs that are bred regardless of their horrible, crappy, human aggressive temperaments. Actually, HA is "cool" in these dogs.

And great post, drycreek. These are not APBTs......heck, they aren't even "pit bulls." They are mixed breed mutts being used as penis extentions. Nothing more.
 
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I wish there was something I could do! I don't know how many of the dogs are on site in our subdivision but I would think the maximum that that size house and yard could handle would probably be 4-5 at most. It's a house similar to ours (probably 1200 sq feet) and the yard is like ours--very tiny--something like 12x18 or so. I don't know how new they are to the neighborhood but I've never seen a bully breed out for a walk ever--and we walk Wrigley most every night at different times--there's a few people who have pits in our neighborhood and they are what I believe is for 'status' only--caged all day and all night or left in the backyard to bark and be frustrated--makes me soooo mad!
Many communities have limits on the number of dogs allowed on one property, and most have some sort of restrictions on a) whether or not a business is allowed on in a residential area and b) what sort of activities that business is allowed to engage in. If they're building kennels and keeping 7-10 dogs at a time, they may be breaking some laws. And even if they're not, it's probably in your town's best interests that they keep an eye on the situation. If a manhood-enhancer breaks loose and bites a kid, the town could get sued if they weren't enforcing all relevant laws. Contact your local pols and tell them you're concerned.
 

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They contradict themselves.

Unless it's UKC, ADBA, or ABKC (American Bully Kennel Club) it's not a real pitbull so don't waste your time with all those posers out there trying to pass bullsh*t dogs off as the real deal!
Just by that, I would not buy from them.
But, their dogs are not hippo dogs compared to the UKC standard, and just looking at UKC placed dogs, there's not a huge difference. Hippos can be so much worse. Jewels looks grossly overweight, regardless of the fact that she's recently whelped (too young even).

Someone should e-mail them and ask them why they think an "American Bully" is even remotely close to being a true APBT. I'm sure they'll give a lame excuse, though.
 
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