Just let dogs be dogs

[Caren+Bailey]

I keep Bailey on the lead for many reasons:

1: The Danger of the Road.
2: He can be overly friendly with children (and may knock them over to lick them).
3: If he approached a DA dog that is on-lead there would be hell to pay.

The list goes on.............

I see walking Bailey as very enjoyable....never as a chore.
Bailey is very happy on-lead b/c he doesn't know any different (unless in an area that is controlled for him to be off-lead).

 

[Bobsk8]

According to the "dog whisperer" , A dog that is walked on a long leash or runs by itself is not a happy dog. He is being the Pack leader and takes the resonsibility of protecting the pack on himself. Therefore he is under stress and not relaxing and enjoying the walk. He goes on to say a dog should be walked on a short leash at you side or behind you, so they know that you are the pack leader then they can relax and be happy. Cesar Milan is a dog phychologist and watching his tv series has made a believer out of me. He does not train dogs, he trains people to understand their dogs. This is only my opinion.. thanks phil

I don't have alot of faith in Cesar's methods. My dog is allowed to walk either in the heel postion or out in front on a retractable leash. If I had her always heeling, I think she would get bored with that rather quickly. If I tell her to heel, she slows down until I catch up with her and stays next to me until I allow her to go ahead again. If we walk with other dogs, she generally takes the lead position, but doesn't mind if one of the other dogs walks ahead. I think Cesars inflexible rules don't make sense.

 

[casablanca1]

OH my god, I know what you mean! This totally irritates me... It happens SO MUCH around here. There are people in the neighborhood who are absolutely ALWAYS on the phone when walking the dog. I think a walk is such a great time to commune with your pet, work on training, meet other dogs, etc. If you're on the phone, you can't do any of that! They obviously just view it as taking the dog to the bathroom and nothing else. What a waste of an opportunity...

You do have to laugh sometimes. I love the people who seem to see their pet as a means to an end - the girl who just happens to be dressed to kill while walking her enormo mastiff/pit mix (boy bait) or the guy looking haplessly Hugh Grantish while blushingly walking a witty bitty Yorkie (girl bait). I always kind of wonder what happens when the scheming little buggers finally settle down. Do they give the dog away to their single friends?

 

[ToscasMom]

I always kind of wonder what happens when the scheming little buggers finally settle down. Do they give the dog away to their single friends?

In some cases the dog probably already belongs to a friend. "Rent a magnet".

 

[dogsarebetter]

Ruckus (sheltie) is attracking older men to me! (in there 50's)

 

[ToscasMom]

Ruckus (sheltie) is attracking older men to me! (in there 50's)

Don't feel bad. Tosca's a kid magnet. Where am I going?

 

[loulou]

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According to the "dog whisperer" , A dog that is walked on a long leash or runs by itself is not a happy dog. He is being the Pack leader and takes the resonsibility of protecting the pack on himself


my two dogs love bein off the lead and running around together but i can c were your cumin from my youngest dog wen not runnin with my other dog is always at my heal so maybe thats a comfort for him

 

[poodledad]

Help me Ceasar!

According to the "dog whisperer" , A dog that is walked on a long leash or runs by itself is not a happy dog. He is being the Pack leader and takes the resonsibility of protecting the pack on himself. Therefore he is under stress and not relaxing and enjoying the walk. He goes on to say a dog should be walked on a short leash at you side or behind you, so they know that you are the pack leader then they can relax and be happy. Cesar Milan is a dog phychologist and watching his tv series has made a believer out of me. He does not train dogs, he trains people to understand their dogs. This is only my opinion.. thanks phil

Sorry, but Cesar has no education in Canine Behavior whatsoever. He is a self professed "expert" at best and not someone to listen to when it comes to training. He's become the joke of the professionl dog world and his old school approach has taken training back decades. Those of us with experience AND an education would never use his cruel methods to get the results. Success without punishment is not only possible but dogs trained through positive methods are much more predictable in the long run.

What about a dogs spirit? Walks only on a tight lead, unless they have issues and are in a populated area, do not allow for true communication. Walks are about leadership first, but there HAS to be time for exploration and just being a dog. I too am a pack leader, and my dog has a ball on her walks. She does not wear a choke chain, is allowed to sniff and enjoy herself often throughout the walk and when I ask her to come in close..she is more than happy to comply. Leadership does not have to mean that a dog has no fun or that they have to be on a tight lead. Usually, tight leads show the lack of communication and training needed to loose lead walk a dog.
Cesar walks dogs with force (ever see him NOT use a choke collar).

Do I detect some resentment here? He has become very famous!! As I look around I see more and more people adopting his methods. Many of the people who have asked for his help as a last resort after seeking the PROFESSIONAL HELP! When will your book be published, i would like to read it also.

 

[elegy]

Cesar walks dogs with force (ever see him NOT use a choke collar).

ooh ooh! i have! i have! i've seen him give some pretty impressive leash corrections to dogs wearing head halters.

my dogs do not leave the yard offleash, period. my one dog was attacked earlier this week by an off-leash dog. off-leash dogs in public places make me decidedly unhappy.

 

[dr2little]

Do I detect some resentment here? He has become very famous!! As I look around I see more and more people adopting his methods. Many of the people who have asked for his help as a last resort after seeking the PROFESSIONAL HELP! When will your book be published, i would like to read it also.

It always amazes me how some people will follow just about anyone with the financial backing of a few high powered movie/entertainment people.
No, I am not writing a book. What's your point? Ask me the difference between Cesar's and my methods and perhaps about the research they're based on if you want to be taken seriously. I have a thriving business, not all of us clammer for fame and fortune, some of us are satisfied just to work for the dogs and to improve the way they're treated. What you detect as resentment is ANGER at the way he gets away with abusing dogs for a GD TV show. What exactly is your motivation?

 

[dr2little]

ooh ooh! i have! i have! i've seen him give some pretty impressive leash corrections to dogs wearing head halters.

my dogs do not leave the yard offleash, period. my one dog was attacked earlier this week by an off-leash dog. off-leash dogs in public places make me decidedly unhappy.

Yes! You're right there, and what could be scarier than that? I'd love to know what cereal box he got his "dog psychology" degree out of :lol-sign:

 

[RD]

I agree with Cesar Milan about exercise being important, but something I find funny is that he expects people to EXERCISE their dogs with the dog walking in heel position. Dogs don't get much exercise by walking with us. It's bonding and leadership, but it can't possibly be substantial exercise to a high energy dog.

I would rather trust the opinion of an educated trainer who does NOT have their own TV show, than the opinion of some famous self-proclaimed "dog whisperer" with no degrees proving what he knows. Since when should people believe everything they see on TV?

 

[BostonBanker]

Dogs don't get much exercise by walking with us.

My god, I'd have to walk 23 hours a day to exercise Meg that way. And she's not even a herding dog.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

No, I am not writing a book.

But maybe you should I'd buy it.

 

[Julie]

No, I am not writing a book.

You already have........ It's all here on chaz........We just have to put it together. And I would buy it too......

Ahhh.........The info you can get for free...If you take the time to "put it all together".......

 

[timeewalk]

Where I live most people are not very responsible with their pets. We constantly have unleashed, unsupervised dogs running up on us. I always have my dogs leashed so I can have atleast some controll over the situation.

The only time I don't allow them to stop and sniff things is when we are on our bike ride.
Both dogs get a two mile ride a day, and get a walk about 2-3 times a week.

 

[dr2little]

But maybe you should I'd buy it.

Thanks gaddy...that was a really nice thing to post!

 

[dr2little]

You already have........ It's all here on chaz........We just have to put it together. And I would buy it too......

Ahhh.........The info you can get for free...If you take the time to "put it all together".......

Holly molly, thanks Julie! ***blushes*** I actually feel that I don't post enough useful stuff here, pretty darn nice of you to say.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Holly molly, thanks Julie! ***blushes*** I actually feel that I don't post enough useful stuff here, pretty darn nice of you to say.

Oh Doc, stop being bashful! Get to writing!

 

[Rubylove]

I agree with Cesar Milan about exercise being important, but something I find funny is that he expects people to EXERCISE their dogs with the dog walking in heel position. Dogs don't get much exercise by walking with us. It's bonding and leadership, but it can't possibly be substantial exercise to a high energy dog.

I am SO with you and it's a constant debate between my partner and me. He likes to take the doggies for a very brisk, long one-hour walk when he walks them, and they are always tired at the end (and granted my partner is very fit and really does power walk with them) however I'm not as fast and fit as he is, and we do have high-energy dogs, and I just can't satisfy their needs when I walk them. So I always take them to off-leash areas where they can run and chase a ball and play with other dogs and bascially satisfy all of their needs - running, chasing, playing and socialising. We have a great dog park near us which is so big you can't see the boundaries, and is also on the river so there's a beach and calm flat water with an island in the middle so they can swim, and run in soft sand, too. They are MUCH tireder and more worn out and content and calm after an hour at that park than they are going for a boring walk with me around our suburbs, during which they are always straining on their leashes because I just can't go as fast as they want to!

But we can never agree so they get both - long leashed walk in the morning and long romping at the park/river in the afternoon.

And after that they are STILL full of beans! Gorgeous puppers