Just let dogs be dogs

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There are a couple of people in my condo complex that have dogs that sit home all day long. Now these people finally come home from work, and go outside with the dog and sit on their fat butts on a chair in front of their condo with a long leash while the dog is now free to move about 15 feet in each direction and that is it. What really makes it funny is that these tubs of lard would benefit greatly if they would burn off a few thousand calories a day walking their dogs around, but they refuse to move ..... Sad for the dogs really......
Aww thats not a life for the dogs its just an exsistance.The owners could probly do with the exercise 2.If i didnt have dogs i would probly be 20 stone i think its the best exercise&makes you feel nicer.My friend use 2 have a gorgeous german shep it never made it out of the front door ever(except wen he made a run for it on a couple of occassions)&who can blame him! its such a shame for the dogs in that kinda situation
 

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I didn't mean to seem rude in my previous post........
I live in a small town, with many loose dogs that cause problems.
There is a leash law, but it cannot be enforced by our county animal control because their is no county leash laws.....only city. If a dog has his license tag on, the animal control officer cannot pick him up or give a fine.
The city police could pick up the dog, or give fines for loose dogs in our city limits, but I believe that would be near last on their list of importance.

When my dogs and I take walks in town it is more of a "training" exercise. They must follow leash rules, they must not go crazy to see another dog ect. ect.
When we have walks on our 36 acres out of town or at our summer camp along the creek........ that is "play time" no formal restrictions and fun fun fun. And we also have lots of fun in our fenced in backyard. But I just don't permit the "fun" type of things while walking thru town, that could cause alot of problems, and I want them fully under my control in that situation.

I hope you understand where I am coming from........ The more you post, the more I seem to understand the kind of thing you are talking about. :)
 

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Lizzie would go NUTS AND CRAZY on me if I did not train, play, love, walk, and groom her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yikes:

I look at all the dogs that I see that NEVER get to go on walks and get loving on and they just look SOOOOOOO sad!!!!!! :(

Those kinda people should NEVER be able to own a dog EVER!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Lizzie loves it when she sees the leash because that means she gets to go some where and have fun with me (and most of the time treats are included!!! :p )

Also Like OC said I walk at a fast pace too and Lizzie would have it no other way b/c that is what she likes...to walk fast and keep a fast pace!!!!
And that is fine with me because I love walking fast!!!
 

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I didn't mean to seem rude in my previous post........
I live in a small town, with many loose dogs that cause problems.
There is a leash law, but it cannot be enforced by our county animal control because their is no county leash laws.....only city. If a dog has his license tag on, the animal control officer cannot pick him up or give a fine.
The city police could pick up the dog, or give fines for loose dogs in our city limits, but I believe that would be near last on their list of importance.

When my dogs and I take walks in town it is more of a "training" exercise. They must follow leash rules, they must not go crazy to see another dog ect. ect.
When we have walks on our 36 acres out of town or at our summer camp along the creek........ that is "play time" no formal restrictions and fun fun fun. And we also have lots of fun in our fenced in backyard. But I just don't permit the "fun" type of things while walking thru town, that could cause alot of problems, and I want them fully under my control in that situation.

I hope you understand where I am coming from........ The more you post, the more I seem to understand the kind of thing you are talking about. :)
Its o.k I'm realising that people on here are from a totally different world than me&its totally different in britain and we're not as strict with dog laws than where you come from do you no wot i mean.I meant well&wanted to get involved raise a subject&talk about it,all opinions are valid.It jus makes me sad that some dogs dont have much quality 2their life. Thats why i think this site is great people do have different opinions&stuff but they all share one common factor and that is they love their dogs and want to give them the best quality of life that they can,jus wish they all dogs were lucky enough 2 ave owners like the people on this site
 

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Lizzie would go NUTS AND CRAZY on me if I did not train, play, love, walk, and groom her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yikes:

I look at all the dogs that I see that NEVER get to go on walks and get loving on and they just look SOOOOOOO sad!!!!!! :(

Those kinda people should NEVER be able to own a dog EVER!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Lizzie loves it when she sees the leash because that means she gets to go some where and have fun with me (and most of the time treats are included!!! :p )

Also Like OC said I walk at a fast pace too and Lizzie would have it no other way b/c that is what she likes...to walk fast and keep a fast pace!!!!
And that is fine with me because I love walking fast!!!
Thats really nice to here,you know she is a happy dog&you love her loads,shes avery lucky dog i hope she knows that but dont they give you so much more than you can ever give back&its totally unconditional.
 

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Thats really nice to here,you know she is a happy dog&you love her loads,shes avery lucky dog i hope she knows that but dont they give you so much more than you can ever give back&its totally unconditional.
Ohhh she knows it!!! :p She is spoild rotten!!!!! hehehe!! :p

They do give you SOOOOO much!!!! I was reading some where that if an Older Person (Above 50 or 60 years old) Has a dog that they have fewer health problems and are not as lonley!!!! :D That is probably why my grandmother and grandaddy have VERY FEW health problems (they have 4 sweet standered poodles and 1 sweet lab) and they are.....I think 75 or 72??? :D
 

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Too funny Bobsk8! I have a neighbor who not only looks like you describe, but so does his poor dog, who appears to no longer even care to walk either.

Heck, Tosca already made me lose five pounds since I got her. She wants to MOVE. Best thing that ever happened to me as I work at my computer for hours and hours and hours. A few more months of that and I would have a butt shaped like a chair! But alas, Tosca says, "C'mon Mom git off yer butt and lets roll! Of course I miss a few deadlines here and there but ah what the heck. What good is it, if you can't smell a few flowers with your dog?
 

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I know what you mean Loulou.. when you see people walking with their dogs all grumpy looking.. yelling at them if they do anything dog like.. it's like they expect them to be people or something! :p

I like hearing people tell their dogs how good they're being.. praising them for what they're doing right and being happy with them.. I totally know what you mean.. I've see SO many people that just mope along.. like they'd rather be anywhere else in the world.. that annoys me too ;)
 
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I think I understand where your going with this LouLou. The leash thing is really not the issue, it's seems odd that when two people cross paths and both have friendly dogs that are leashed and under control, they act as if there is some 'unwritten law that forbids the dogs from greeting each other or even saying hello (which is the butt-sniffing thing) or they act as if it's a terribley rude and inappropriate thing to let their poor dog meet another of his kind!

I can understand why people would be worried if the dog was unleashed and out of control, but if it is clean, friendly, trained and under the owner's control..I don't see why there would be a problem.
 
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Too funny Bobsk8! I have a neighbor who not only looks like you describe, but so does his poor dog, who appears to no longer even care to walk either.

Heck, Tosca already made me lose five pounds since I got her. She wants to MOVE. Best thing that ever happened to me as I work at my computer for hours and hours and hours. A few more months of that and I would have a butt shaped like a chair! But alas, Tosca says, "C'mon Mom git off yer butt and lets roll! Of course I miss a few deadlines here and there but ah what the heck. What good is it, if you can't smell a few flowers with your dog?
Smokey gets me up every morning at 7:30 ( I am retired now except for my music buisness), and after waiting patiently ( sometimes), we take a 3 mile walk in the park....every morning.. During the day I take her for a least another 2 miles and my Doctor thinks it is great........
 

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Not only do your dogs give you the motivation to get you from in front of the TV&out of the house i think they give you somekind of emotional stability my dogs are always more than willing 2 give me that cuddle i need when im down and it always works for me i couldnt imagine them not being in my life, i definately no that my life is richer 4 having them.I'm sure that is something u all can agree with
 

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Loulou, I know what you mean. I live in New York City and have witnessed a lot of people being impatient and mean to their dogs.

I mean, I am working on training my pooch to heel because sometimes that's really important, like if you're on a crowded street and carrying groceries. So, I understand that you can't ALWAYS just let the dog do what he wants. But, Hudson also gets a lot of just fun walking time every day where I'm patient with him, let him sniff, etc. When another dog is approaching, I always ask the walker, "Does your dog want to meet my dog?" or something. A lot of people say no, and I figure it's cause they're in a hurry or the dog isn't friendly. But, when we do come across a friendly, social dog (with a friendly, social owner, LOL!), my dog gets the opportunity for a nice long mutual sniff, and maybe some pouncing on each other if they get along! Of course, we the walkers have to do a little dance to keep the leashes untangled! :)
 
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Maybe its just me but i cant stand these "dog owners" that walk around with their dogs on a lead not interacting with it lookin all miserable like its a chore or something...are these people really enjoying their dogs and do they no that its a privilage to have the dog as their companion and how much that dog will give to them during its lifetime.
I see many people talking on their cell phone while they walk their dogs, and I think that's hazardous (if you've ever seen a big dog take off on an unaware person, you know what I mean) as well as being kind of well, why'd you get a dog anyway, if you can't take a breather long enough to walk them? I can see times when you'd want to use the cell phone, or have it with you on a walk, but there are people who every time they walk their dog, they're on the phone.
 

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I keep a very tight reign on my dogs - there is NO WAY I let Ronin sniff other dogs, becuase he is dog aggressive. Ilsa is prey driven. Play time is play time, but if they're on a leash, it usually means they need to buckle down and work. Now, Petsmart trips ar eanother story... ;) But I still don't let them approach strange dogs.
 

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I see many people talking on their cell phone while they walk their dogs, and I think that's hazardous (if you've ever seen a big dog take off on an unaware person, you know what I mean) as well as being kind of well, why'd you get a dog anyway, if you can't take a breather long enough to walk them? I can see times when you'd want to use the cell phone, or have it with you on a walk, but there are people who every time they walk their dog, they're on the phone.
OH my god, I know what you mean! This totally irritates me... It happens SO MUCH around here. There are people in the neighborhood who are absolutely ALWAYS on the phone when walking the dog. I think a walk is such a great time to commune with your pet, work on training, meet other dogs, etc. If you're on the phone, you can't do any of that! They obviously just view it as taking the dog to the bathroom and nothing else. What a waste of an opportunity...
 

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walking dogs

According to the "dog whisperer" , A dog that is walked on a long leash or runs by itself is not a happy dog. He is being the Pack leader and takes the resonsibility of protecting the pack on himself. Therefore he is under stress and not relaxing and enjoying the walk. He goes on to say a dog should be walked on a short leash at you side or behind you, so they know that you are the pack leader then they can relax and be happy. Cesar Milan is a dog phychologist and watching his tv series has made a believer out of me. He does not train dogs, he trains people to understand their dogs. This is only my opinion.. thanks phil

 
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According to the "dog whisperer" , A dog that is walked on a long leash or runs by itself is not a happy dog. He is being the Pack leader and takes the resonsibility of protecting the pack on himself. Therefore he is under stress and not relaxing and enjoying the walk. He goes on to say a dog should be walked on a short leash at you side or behind you, so they know that you are the pack leader then they can relax and be happy. Cesar Milan is a dog phychologist and watching his tv series has made a believer out of me. He does not train dogs, he trains people to understand their dogs. This is only my opinion.. thanks phil
Sorry, but Cesar has no education in Canine Behavior whatsoever. He is a self professed "expert" at best and not someone to listen to when it comes to training. He's become the joke of the professionl dog world and his old school approach has taken training back decades. Those of us with experience AND an education would never use his cruel methods to get the results. Success without punishment is not only possible but dogs trained through positive methods are much more predictable in the long run.

What about a dogs spirit? Walks only on a tight lead, unless they have issues and are in a populated area, do not allow for true communication. Walks are about leadership first, but there HAS to be time for exploration and just being a dog. I too am a pack leader, and my dog has a ball on her walks. She does not wear a choke chain, is allowed to sniff and enjoy herself often throughout the walk and when I ask her to come in close..she is more than happy to comply. Leadership does not have to mean that a dog has no fun or that they have to be on a tight lead. Usually, tight leads show the lack of communication and training needed to loose lead walk a dog.
Cesar walks dogs with force (ever see him NOT use a choke collar).
 

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