Does it sound like we have money bills shoot out of our butts when we go to the bathroom?! We all, well, most of us suffer from the economy, and even the ones that are not struggling are not willing to throw their money out of the window.
When we come together and people offer to donate whatever they can, then it is to help a dog in dire need. Not to help you cover the spay of 11 puppies. I didn't agree with some on jumping on your back so early on... but so many here have given you good, solid advice, which you seem to not take in. Have people put a deposit down or write a check out to the vet the spay will be done at and they can have their pet spayed there or you can give them the money back after having proof that the puppy has been spayed/neutered. I don't think that concept is too hard to grasp.
While yes, I and many others would be willing to donate to a good cause- this is something you need to pan out for yourself (members here gave you the best advice already anyway).
Also... while I applaud you for being interested in rescue- you should never take on more than you can handle. That is my advice for you.
When we come together and people offer to donate whatever they can, then it is to help a dog in dire need. Not to help you cover the spay of 11 puppies. I didn't agree with some on jumping on your back so early on... but so many here have given you good, solid advice, which you seem to not take in. Have people put a deposit down or write a check out to the vet the spay will be done at and they can have their pet spayed there or you can give them the money back after having proof that the puppy has been spayed/neutered. I don't think that concept is too hard to grasp.
While yes, I and many others would be willing to donate to a good cause- this is something you need to pan out for yourself (members here gave you the best advice already anyway).
Also... while I applaud you for being interested in rescue- you should never take on more than you can handle. That is my advice for you.
Maybe you should not take on what you can not afford to handle.
Is it that hard to figure out?
If you do not have the money to vet twelve puppies fully then do not take on a pregnant dog. You may get reimbursed with adoption fees but it is not very likely. A lot of rescues are charging a bare minimum fee right now and it sure doesn't cover anywhere near cost.
It is not our responsibility to fund your hoarding.
Is it that hard to figure out?
If you do not have the money to vet twelve puppies fully then do not take on a pregnant dog. You may get reimbursed with adoption fees but it is not very likely. A lot of rescues are charging a bare minimum fee right now and it sure doesn't cover anywhere near cost.
It is not our responsibility to fund your hoarding.
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You will THINK about it? There should be no 'thinking' about it at all. It should be a simple decision -- have it done. Have the lab mother spayed when she is done weaning, have Jaws neutered, and have the pups done when they are of age.
These puppies are your responsibility. You took on the mother, knowing she was pregnant, and she and her pups are in your hands. If you do not have the money to properly care for them, then you should not have taken them in. They need to be spayed and neutered when they reach a proper age, and the mother lab needs to be spayed as well when she is done weaning her pups. If you cannot afford to vet check and speuter the dogs, you should not have taken them on in the first place. They are your responsibility, financially and all.
These puppies are your responsibility. You took on the mother, knowing she was pregnant, and she and her pups are in your hands. If you do not have the money to properly care for them, then you should not have taken them in. They need to be spayed and neutered when they reach a proper age, and the mother lab needs to be spayed as well when she is done weaning her pups. If you cannot afford to vet check and speuter the dogs, you should not have taken them on in the first place. They are your responsibility, financially and all.
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I'm not talking about the past. I am talking about the FUTURE. I said she NEEDS to have the mom spayed once the pups are weaned, and she NEEDS to have the pups speutered, or at least pre-paid on a speuter contract, before they get adopted out. No should coulda woulda there, I am talking about responsibility with future plans.
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Listen, sweethearts.
I've already had the discussion with the shelter rep about spaying BabyGirl when the pups are weaned. I will. She looks as if she's just been kept around as a breeding machine and BabyGirl definitely does not need to have any more babies.
Jaws is still scheduled for his neutering next month. The shelter knows this and I am planning to go ahead and get him neutered.
By rights, I adopted only Jaws and BabyGirl. I didn't sign any papers neither was I instructed to speuter all of the pups. The shelter's concern was that BabyGirl had a safe place to have her pups. The pups are mine, legally ethically and morally. I will do the right thing with them----and that is MY right thing, not the right thing of a bunch of Chazhounds who are in no way involved besides looking at a few pictures.
The shelter didn't even see Zoey the rottweiler, simply because the shelter did not have any safe place for her and the pups. I was notified with the hopes that I could take them in, which I did. They, too, are legally, morally, and ethically mine, not the property of Chazhounds. Zoey should never have been bred, she is not even decent conformation for a Rottie, and she will be spayed when the pups are weaned.
The pups will all be dewormed and vaccinated and sold at relatively low prices, or if some wish to call it an adoption fee, so be it. No one can force new owners to speuter dogs, because of property rights. The pups become the property of the new owner and become under the new owners' control, they do not stay in my control. I can, and probably will, take in a refundable speuter deposit when placing the pups, but I wll not keep the pups until the proper age of speutering and pay the costs myself. We are now talking about a total of 17 pups here, not just the 10 pitties.
The best thing for the pups will be to find them homes at the appropriate age where they can receive one on one attention and proper socialization from their new owners----not to wait until they are half grown and have become just a large pack of dogs. There is no way I could properly care for that many dogs, or give them the proper socialization to become good doggie citizens.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
I've already had the discussion with the shelter rep about spaying BabyGirl when the pups are weaned. I will. She looks as if she's just been kept around as a breeding machine and BabyGirl definitely does not need to have any more babies.
Jaws is still scheduled for his neutering next month. The shelter knows this and I am planning to go ahead and get him neutered.
By rights, I adopted only Jaws and BabyGirl. I didn't sign any papers neither was I instructed to speuter all of the pups. The shelter's concern was that BabyGirl had a safe place to have her pups. The pups are mine, legally ethically and morally. I will do the right thing with them----and that is MY right thing, not the right thing of a bunch of Chazhounds who are in no way involved besides looking at a few pictures.
The shelter didn't even see Zoey the rottweiler, simply because the shelter did not have any safe place for her and the pups. I was notified with the hopes that I could take them in, which I did. They, too, are legally, morally, and ethically mine, not the property of Chazhounds. Zoey should never have been bred, she is not even decent conformation for a Rottie, and she will be spayed when the pups are weaned.
The pups will all be dewormed and vaccinated and sold at relatively low prices, or if some wish to call it an adoption fee, so be it. No one can force new owners to speuter dogs, because of property rights. The pups become the property of the new owner and become under the new owners' control, they do not stay in my control. I can, and probably will, take in a refundable speuter deposit when placing the pups, but I wll not keep the pups until the proper age of speutering and pay the costs myself. We are now talking about a total of 17 pups here, not just the 10 pitties.
The best thing for the pups will be to find them homes at the appropriate age where they can receive one on one attention and proper socialization from their new owners----not to wait until they are half grown and have become just a large pack of dogs. There is no way I could properly care for that many dogs, or give them the proper socialization to become good doggie citizens.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
The right thing to do it to make sure none of the puppies end up having eleven puppies like their mother did.
I know some people on the board are against pediatric neuter. I understand the reasons for waiting and I can respect people who wait to have their own dog altered. But I tell you what--if I were placing eleven pit bull mutts of unknown pedigree, born to a mother out of a shelter, you can BET I'd have every one of those puppies spayed/neutered before they left my hands, whether it be at eight weeks, twelve weeks, or whenever. There are enough pit bulls getting euthanized every day, take a step to ensure none of these babies will be contributing to the shelters with puppies of their own.
In weighing the risk of early spay/neuter vs. the risk of puppies ending up in the hands of someone too busy/lazy/irresponsible to have them neutered, I would go for the early neuter. That is the lesser risk.
I know some people on the board are against pediatric neuter. I understand the reasons for waiting and I can respect people who wait to have their own dog altered. But I tell you what--if I were placing eleven pit bull mutts of unknown pedigree, born to a mother out of a shelter, you can BET I'd have every one of those puppies spayed/neutered before they left my hands, whether it be at eight weeks, twelve weeks, or whenever. There are enough pit bulls getting euthanized every day, take a step to ensure none of these babies will be contributing to the shelters with puppies of their own.
In weighing the risk of early spay/neuter vs. the risk of puppies ending up in the hands of someone too busy/lazy/irresponsible to have them neutered, I would go for the early neuter. That is the lesser risk.
You are treating the situation as if YOU bred them! These are rescue dogs!! The puppies should NEVER be allowed to be bred! They NEED to be altered! It is NOT the responsibility of the new owner! They should have been PTS when they were still inside of her, never allowed to be born if its going to do NO good, and they are going to be bred and add to the population.
Admin, seriously..ban this troll.
Admin, seriously..ban this troll.