i never hear anything about pedigree

[gaddylovesdogs]

I've seen many, many dogs that live long, healthy lives and eat crap. I met a dane that was on a not so high-quality food and had lots of energy and a smooth, fluffy coat. I've also met humans that eat nothing but crap, but still have some of the clearist skin I've seen, and silky hair.

You can feed your dog whatever you want - at least you're feeding him - but pedigree and iams are crap. They simply are. And I choose not to feed my dogs these foods and I choose not to support animal abuse.

 

[BagelDog]

Its not crap if it doesnt kill dogs. Gimme proof its crap. If a dog can eat it and be healthy, its oviously not crap.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Its not crap if it doesnt kill dogs.

There are millions of people out there that eat things like big macs every day. Just because they don't all die early doesn't mean it's good for them. There are people out there that eating not BUT cr@p, and live to be one hundred. But big macs ain't good for anybody.

I kind find both IAMS and Pedigree in both of the cr@ppy grocery stores here.

 

[Saje]

BagelDog, we've given you resources before on how to find out what a good dog food is. Mordy has plenty of information on her site. I'm not going to do your research for you. If you want to show us that you've already done it then tell us why it's good food. There are plenty of people here who can explain why it's ingredients are inferior. And people can survive on pop and chips but that doesn't mean it's a quality food. Look at the toll it takes on people's bodies eating that kind of food. You have to make your own decisions but I hope you do your research.

 

[Athe]

Oh posh it not good for them. I have a 13+ year old dachie that has eaten IAMS since she was 2, and guess what? Still kicken. Guess what? No food related problems. Guess what? Shes Healthy. Iv seen no evidence its bad for them, especially after my dachie has eaten it so long and been fine. Iv heard you all say, ITS BAD! ITS JUNK! DONT FEED DOGS THAT

BagelDog, It is your choice to feed Iams to your dogs. I have a freind who breeds Newfoundland dogs who feeds only Iams and Eukanuba, they survive and they appear healthy...but, if you compared my Newf's to her Newf's you would see a BIG difference. My dogs have beautiful black coats and no skin problems, her Newf's suffer from minor skin problems occasionally and ear infections. Perhaps our purebreds are just more sensitive. I also think the reason her dogs have skin problems is they get no variety at all, day in and day out they only get Eukanuba. These dogs are shown and we can make them look pretty and great for any show. One major reason many breeders go with Iams/Eukanuba is because they sponsor dog shows, lend them tents, give prizes, free food packages, puppy packages, lunch coolers, dog toys, etc away for free...its all for advertising as all products given away have the company name on them
Any way, over all Iams is a better choice than Pedigree dog food, Iams is actually an average dog food and I have fed it to my dogs on occasion. My biggest belief is variety in dog foods from dry mixed with can to home prepared raw, to home cooked to healthy table scraps makes a healthier dog. Over all though Iams/Eukanuba is not a horrible dog food, it has average ingredients in it.
I would recommend other foods over Iams/Eukanuba because I feel if a person is asking for recommendations on diet, they must want to go up in quality of ingredients.

 

[nedim]

Go To Iamscruelty.com And Watch Some Videos. Then Tell Me If You Want To Buy That For Your Dogs. All You're Doing Is Supporting Animal Abuse, No..animal Torture.

 

[Babyblue5290]

Go To Iamscruelty.com And Watch Some Videos. Then Tell Me If You Want To Buy That For Your Dogs. All You're Doing Is Supporting Animal Abuse, No..animal Torture.

the person already said she new about all the IAMS stuff.

 

[nedim]

Whoa....Thats not right. I'm at a loss for words.

 

[Babyblue5290]

I know!! It shocked me to!

 

[nedim]

Isnt that messed up? When I saw those videos, I couldnt believe how thise dogs were neglected. Its like a concentration camp for dogs. And people are supporting it.People who know about it too! Thats just plain disrespect and ignorance.

 

[nedim]

Yes, I know of that, but give me proof the food is bad. Dont give me the ingredients, because my dogz thrive on them.

What other proof are you looking for? Dont be so cold-hearted.

 

[Babyblue5290]

Maybe bagel has her (his?) reasons for it, but I find it awful and would never support such a thing.

 

[nedim]

I am really starting to think that some people thrive on nothing more than conflict.

 

[Babyblue5290]

I was thinking, maybe you should switch your dog foods to a high quality food for a while and monitar your dog. Then you can see if your dogs react differently or improve on a better quality food and you'll know if IAMS is crap or not.

 

[Babyblue5290]

I am really starting to think that some people thrive on nothing more than conflict.

Yeah, some people like it. That's how you get troll

 

[nedim]

I was thinking, maybe you should switch your dog foods to a high quality food for a while and monitar your dog. Then you can see if your dogs react differently or improve on a better quality food and you'll know if IAMS is crap or not.

Great idea. Although I doubt she will listen. I mean how can you call yourself an animal lover if you willingly support cruelty?

 

[Babyblue5290]

Great idea. Although I doubt she will listen. I mean how can you call yourself an animal lover if you willingly support cruelty?

It would be great if she did do that though. She might see a difference in her dogs and then buy some higher quality food. But your right chances are she wont. As for the animal lover thing, I think she is. I don't know her reasons for supporting IAMS, but I don't want to uspet her.

 

[nedim]

Well, I cant just worry about not upsetting someone whos paying a company to torture dogs. sorry bagel dog, but I have a passion for dogs. But hey, what can I do? If she wont change her mind with the knowledge she has, then what good is posting gonna do?

 

[Athe]

It's very disappointing that the companies and Vet's who are supposed to be looking after and care unconditionally for animals can inflect such cruelty.

Veterinarian's are just as cruel when testing and training new Vet students. Some times they gather at one vet school and have student Vets come to train using cats and dogs inflicted with disease or trauma. It's very sad. I also "heard" not sure if this is true (I have never spread this rumor around, just kept it to myself until someone gives me proof), that all pet foods even the brands we love have used the Iams testing for their own dog foods. So, we cannot just blame Iam's and Proctor and Gamble, if the rumor is true then all dog foods have to complete an equal trail and usually just use the one lab. Mordy can probably fill me in on my misquote or my misunderstanding on this.

 

[Renee750il]

Athe, you'll be relieved to know that NaturaPet doesn't use any of those testing protocols. Their "lab" dogs are rescues, with clean, comfortable living quarters, lots of outside yard time and exercise, normal, pet interactions with the employees, no invasive testing whatsoever, and they are adopted out into well-screened homes while they still have many years of life expectancy ahead of them. Just another reason I love their products!