I have narrowed it down

[Laurelin]

I have my own list of positives/negatives. The bottom four are probably out as is. Mostly because of renting. I'm mostly out of my dad's house, just visiting for a few weeks this summer is all. I live in an apartment and probably will for some time.

As far as energy and border collies, Mia has me out 2+ hours a day as is. I'm pretty comfortable with the breed and have quite a bit of BC experience as is. My main concern is size/prey drive and the little dogs. A BC would probably be an adult rescue just cause I know there's so many wonderful ones out there.

Here's my list of negatives:

Border Collie- Love them. Worry about boisterousness with the paps. Might be too biddable?

Shetland Sheepdog- Too barky. Too low energy. Too much hair. A little soft tempered. Small. Already had them and enjoyed them though. Kind of wish I'd had Nikki as an adult. I know I'll have another eventually. Don't know if I'm ready yet though.

Australian Shepherd- Too much enthusiasm for the little dogs? Too big. May be too clownish.

Papillon- Too small. Hard time finding one that measures up to Mia. Might be too soft. And I already have a million. (LOL) I do want a show quality bitch eventually however.

Brittany- Too much energy maybe? Not too fond of the spaniely look. Not enough experience with them

Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever- Like them on paper, but never met them. Would like to meet them. The look doesn’t quite grab me though.

Icelandic Sheepdog- Love the look. Perfect size. Never met one, but in books they sound perfect. This breed really grabs me for some reason.

Mudi- too much energy? Never met one. Love the look.

Kooikerhondje- Love the look again and the temperament on paper. May be a bit soft and small though.

Pyrenean Shepherd- This breed also really interests me. Love the smooths especially. Worry about temperament as I’ve heard iffy things about it.

Finnish Lapphund- Probably too soft tempered and easy going. Lots and lots of hair.

Whippet- Also rather soft. I’m not sure I’m really a sight hound person either.

Australian Cattle Dog- Probably too much dog at this point. DA and hardness may take a more experienced handler. Love the energy and stamina and challenge, though.

Pembroke Corgi- DA is a concern. Not fond of the short look. Like that they’re a bit harder though in temperament.

German Shepherd Dog- Too big. Hard to rent with. Probably too much dog at this point. Prey drive with small dogs is an issue. But I love them and want another eventually.

Doberman- Also too big. Hard to rent with. DA/Possibly too much dog at this point. Worry about how boisterous they can be.

But I have a few years lol. Mostly just musing at this point.

 

[milos_mommy]

Whippets are VERY soft. The ones I've known (which are all of two)...if you raise your voice even slightly around them they cower.

Deciding if you want to rescue or buy from a breed would help too. If you want to rescue, that might knock out quite a few breeds. I've never seen a Mudi in rescue

If you want to buy, and DON'T want to ship a puppy, that might knock out breeds as well.

 

[Whisper]

There are many breeds I'm so interested in owning. It's hard to narrow it down. But, I've wanted a Border Collie so long and so badly I'm positive that will be the breed I seek out next.
I have a while to think about it, too. A lot of dogs on your list are on mine, Laur. GSD, pap, Mudi, Kooikerhondje, Toller, and Dobe.

 

[elegy]

I have a JRT and don't know if I could handle a BC.

i have a border collie and i'm not sure if i could handle a jrt :yikes:

(i throw steve's ball for him in the house in bad weather and it is enough to keep him relatively sane. and even living with two other dogs in a 900 sq ft townhouse and with me working full time and being an "only parent" we do ok. it's certainly not for everyone though.)

i've got a list of moderate length as well. my interest in different breeds comes and goes. i have a lot of time to think about what my next dog will be. i fixate, get over it, fixate on something else, move on.

but anyway, the current lists. the top one is the short list. the bottom one is the breeds that i really really like but which probably aren't realistic options for me based on one thing or another (size and temperament, mostly)

another pittie
another bc
staffy bull
borderstaffy
malinois
jrt

greyhound
standard poodle
dobe
spinone
vizsla
ACD

who knows what i'll end up with when the time comes.

 

[Pops2]

heck i still have to figure out what type to get next before i decide on breed
sighthound to run w/ the one i have
bull/mastiff to run as a kill dog w/ the sighthound and eventually as a catchdog for boar
cur dog to help find & kick up game especially fox & coyote
terrier to pull game out of a hole

 

[Renee750il]

heck i still have to figure out what type to get next before i decide on breed
sighthound to run w/ the one i have
bull/mastiff to run as a kill dog w/ the sighthound and eventually as a catchdog for boar
cur dog to help find & kick up game especially fox & coyote
terrier to pull game out of a hole

LOL! Pops, you just need a GOOD Fila

 

[babymomma]

German shepherd.

Thats pre much the only dog on my list right now.

 

[BostonBanker]

I haven't met a Mudi (or a kooiker, or a pyr shep, or a lapphund, or a toller, or an icelandic actually)

Having spent a fair amount of time around both Mudi (had a breeder, one of the first in the US, in my classes when I taught) and Icelandic (we have one in our agility club), my take on the two:

Icelandic: I couldn't do it. Ever. Everything I've read on them mentions barking. It doesn't mention it enough. Shelties have nothing on the Icelandic I know. And this is a dog who is actively trained, not just sitting around doing nothing. She's a nice size in my opinion, and although not *as* biddable as the more traditional herding breeds I see more of, she's fairly responsive. But the barking.

Mudi: I kind of liked them in personality. I happen to not like the looks, but they were very trainable, nice off leash, and athletic. The ones I met were a bit stand-offish and skittish with people. I'm not sure how much is breed trait and how much is just them. I could see them being fear biters based on the three I know (although none of them were - just that sort of vibe).

I can come up with a list of five or so breeds that would be genuine possibilities, but in my heart of hearts, I know that when the time is right, the right rescue is more than likely going to catch my eye and that will be it.

 

[Dekka]

Whippet - i know you let summer and mia offleash at the park, dunno if it's fenced, do you want a dog you can NEVER let off leash?

Most whippet people I know (that are more than 'just pet owners') let their whippets off leash once trained. And these are 'high drive love to race and get the bunny' type whippets.

IMO they are much easier to have off leash than JRTs They are lower drive and a lot more people focused, and more agreeable and into what their people want.

I would let both Dash (less training, more drive and less attachment) and Bounce loose at a dog park, or really any reasonable off leash area with or with out fence.

And yes whippets are soft.. but they shouldn't cower with to a raised voice. I have met many badly bred, and some show whippets who weren't very confident. But most I know (AKC/CKC types as well as LHW) are soft but not at all timid. Bounce has never met a stranger and runs up to all new people and new dogs if she has permission. Doesn't get upset about loud noises, and is fearless on the agility equipment. And this is coming from someone used to fairly hard terriers.....

 

[drmom777]

I think I will get a Lagotto Romagnolo and start that truffle business. If only they didn't look like undersized Labradoodles.

 

[Pops2]

but Renee, do they open on track?

 

[Laurelin]

Icelandic: I couldn't do it. Ever. Everything I've read on them mentions barking. It doesn't mention it enough. Shelties have nothing on the Icelandic I know. And this is a dog who is actively trained, not just sitting around doing nothing. She's a nice size in my opinion, and although not *as* biddable as the more traditional herding breeds I see more of, she's fairly responsive. But the barking.

Barking doesn't generally bother me (hello shelties) but I don't know I could take a dog that barked MORE than shelties. I didn't know that was actually possible. :lol-sign:

Definitely something to think about.

 

[PWCorgi]

Pembroke Corgi- DA is a concern. Not fond of the short look. Like that they’re a bit harder though in temperament.

If you are worried about the DA, what about a Cardi. They tend to have less DA than the Pemmies.

 

[Laurelin]

I like Cardis but have only met a few. I was under the impression they were also calmer and less drivey. True? Not true?

 

[Renee750il]

but Renee, do they open on track?

Not sure what that means?

 

[DobeLove]

Few Doberman bitches are same sex DA. I know of a few males that are fine with other males, but my current male wants to kill all other males. But I have never had two girls fight "just because" (like a lot of males do)
When we had 2 whippets they were perfectly fine off leash. They didn't like being away from us though

 

[Whisper]

For my list I also forgot a breed. I'd love to have a Collie one day, preferable rough coated.

 

[Pops2]

remember in cool hand luke when he escapes & they are chasing him w/ hounds & the dogs are barking and he can tell how far behind him they are. that's opening on track and most hounds are most bull/mastiff, sighthounds & terriers are not.

 

[Renee750il]

I would imagine not naturally. That could be a real liability when hunting jaguar, lol!

Miakoda could tell you more, though. She got to see the Filas at the state prison in Louisiana. They use them for bringing back runaways. They're quite efficient And they don't have the weakness of being so affected by temperature like the Bloodhounds. They also have a great deal better stamina. Not to mention speed, lol.

 

[JennSLK]

I have many.

Mudi's are high on my list. I have spent alot of time with them. Emma's fisrt agility trainer had the first ones in Canada. You need to watch your lines. Alot of the Can/Am breeders are allready ruining them. They should NOT be skittish. They have a TON of energy. If you cant handle a BC dont get a Mudi. Emma's trainer is still breeding to the old/origional style and temperment. Great working dogs, wicked agility dogs. Verry trainable. Can be stand off ish.