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All I said was that I think that it is so to generalize and have prejudices against ANY group of animals, people, etc. All Pits are aggressive, all Cops suck, all Southern people are racists.... you get my idea.

I didn't grow up this way. My parents taught me to give everyone a chance individually.
 
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once i was at the beach with Chance and the kids and we had a 5 month old Rottie named Oya with us. a park ranger was walking by and Oya just stood up and the stupid so-and-so went for his gun and said "that's a good way to get shot", right in front of my kids, and he meant it. Oya was on a chain by our tent, didn't growl or anything, cops suck.

about 8 years ago i was walking our 5 year old Rottie, Bear, and saw a cop that lived in the apartment complex we were in, noticed he had some mace in his hand. he looked drunk and was staring at us, made me feel nervous, so i asked him about the mace claiming that i was considering buying some for my wife and wanted to know if it worked. he said "let's see" and sprayed it at us. luckily we were about 4 or 5 feet further away than the mace could go. yeah he harrassed alot of people there.

if you are a cop and you are reading this, you suck.

Nice job lumping every law enforcement officer into the category with this jerk you are describing.

Law enforcement officers make it possible for you to have the life you have. If not for LEOs, this country would descend into anarchy and mayhem worse than it already is.

Yes, there are cops and LEO's who make bad decisions, and probably should not have a badge, but IMO the good ones FAR outweigh the bad.

Let's hope you don't fit in some group that people have a lot of preconceived notions about.

;)
 

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Nice job lumping every law enforcement officer into the category with this jerk you are describing.

Law enforcement officers make it possible for you to have the life you have. If not for LEOs, this country would descend into anarchy and mayhem worse than it already is.

Yes, there are cops and LEO's who make bad decisions, and probably should not have a badge, but IMO the good ones FAR outweigh the bad.

Let's hope you don't fit in some group that people have a lot of preconceived notions about.

;)
there are generalizations for everything and every group, at least my generalization isn't that i victimize innocent people, shoot people's dogs, or apprehend suspects and beat the crap out of them once they are handcuffed.

google Officer Gray/Heilman and watch them beat Ramon Hernandez into a pile of mush. yeah Ramon was a crook, but once you have the suspect in custody, you don't get "free shots" just because you're angry. in a job such as a police officer, you have to in control of yourself at all times, if you can't, you should get a job slingin french fires instead

i'm glad that you have such a positive outlook on life, but not eveyone lives in Mayberry.

:D

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there's another thread on here that is a fine example of our police force here in Texas. just so you know.

http://chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42791
 
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I understand that there are bad examples of law enforcement officers.

It is NOT RIGHT to lump them all into one category.

If you choose to do so, have at it.

Not right tho.
 

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oh no, somebody shot a stray dog that was charging them, I'd shoot it too, would that make me a cop too? It seems the ball was dropped by the people who care for animals for a living, those bastards, all of 'em
i don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks like to me that you believe everything a cop says.

and the fact that he shot it isn't "the story", it's that they let it die slowly, without medical care. and i bet it was because he was mad at the dog.

sounds like we're dealing with "super-cop syndrome" and the guy would serve society better by asking people if they want fries with their order.
 

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Sinnik-

Do you have personal experiences with these bad cops, or are you basing everything off of what the news tells you?

I don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks to me like you believe everything the news says.
 

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Sinnik-

Do you have personal experiences with these bad cops, or are you basing everything off of what the news tells you?

I don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks to me like you believe everything the news says.
personal experience.

i don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks like it's past your bedtime and you should go clean your room before brushing your teeth and going to sleep.

Baahh.
 

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personal experience.

i don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks like it's past your bedtime and you should go clean your room before brushing your teeth and going to sleep.

Baahh.
Man...that hurt. I would've expected a better comeback from you. I'm slightly disappointed. Anywho, sorry about the experience but what you are doing is profiling. And profiling is wrong. Cliche, but true. I feel really sorry for you, cuz you must either have really bad luck or just give the cops a reason to target you. Might be your attitude, FYI.
 
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i don't know you well enough to tell, but it looks like to me that you believe everything a cop says.

and the fact that he shot it isn't "the story", it's that they let it die slowly, without medical care. and i bet it was because he was mad at the dog.

sounds like we're dealing with "super-cop syndrome" and the guy would serve society better by asking people if they want fries with their order.
The only thing I believed was that the cop shot the dog, if it was running at large and threatened him or not nobodywill ever know. But the super cop syndrome didn't come into play, he died at the animal control center with people that are supposed to care for animals, not with the cop, big difference.
 
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Okay... I did not say that your post was stupid. I said, I found it ignorant, because you generalize ALL cops based on your few experiences. I think it is sad that good people that are risking their lives are talked about like this. One bad cop does not make the whole police department evil, that was my point.
I never generalized any cops, i never said any of them were bad or good. I mentioned that everyone has diff opinions of cops. I also said I have family who are police officers, sargents, and detectives. I never claimed any of them were evil, I also said everyone cop is diff. and not all are bad!
 

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My daughter was engaged to marry a guy. A few things were going wrong, but when the guy was mean to her dogs...
She was outta that relationship!
 

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The cops inmy hometown LOVE Ilsa, and a few cops who come by my workplace also know (and love) my dogs. A group of cops even invited Ilsa to a training session. My dogs are celbrated and loved by the cops that know them.

That said, I have had a cop draw his pistol when he approached my car on a traffic stop (I had a blown taillight and didn't know it)... I had both Dobermans in the backseat - is this why the cop felt it necessary to approach my car with his gun drawn? Once he saw that I had a barrier separating the backseat from the front seats he put the gun away, but it still made me uncomfortable.

There are good cops and there are bad cops, just like there are good bus drivers and back bus drivers, good waitresses and bad waitresses, good landlords and bad landlords. The difference is, bus drivers and waitresses and landlords can't make a decision to kill you or your pets. I stay away from cops when I'm driving with my dogs, simply because my dogs WILL bark and protect me if someone approaches my car and acts "gruff" to me - and I don't want my dogs shot.
 
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You have to realize that anyone who says that they've only ever had bad experiences with "cops", and that they all suck or are bad either has his eyes closed to what's going on and sees only what he wants, or is a person who really has social issues and probably has been less than an honest or decent individual.

I think that all of us realize that there are instances when the judgements of law enforcement were bad, or even downright evil. I think that all of us realize that these are in the minority and that there are good officers out there too. I'm sure many of us can give examples of how we were helped by law officials, and I'm sure that there are many who have never had any personal interaction with police because of no circumstances that required it. Don't let a couple of screwballs get you all riled up. They're not worth it.
 

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You have to realize that anyone who says that they've only ever had bad experiences with "cops", and that they all suck or are bad either has his eyes closed to what's going on and sees only what he wants, or is a person who really has social issues and probably has been less than an honest or decent individual.

I think that all of us realize that there are instances when the judgements of law enforcement were bad, or even downright evil. I think that all of us realize that these are in the minority and that there are good officers out there too. I'm sure many of us can give examples of how we were helped by law officials, and I'm sure that there are many who have never had any personal interaction with police because of no circumstances that required it. Don't let a couple of screwballs get you all riled up. They're not worth it.

That is just as much a blanket statement as them people saying all cops suck. I have never been in any trouble, (other then a few minor traffic violations like speeding or tail light out) I have NEVER been arrested, or had them called on me for some thing, or any thing else. I have never had any help from them either. I have had nothing but bad expiriences with them if I had any reason for them to be around. I don't care for cops, I wouldn't call them for some thing either, why would I? They have never been of any help Sorry to ruin your theory. I am not a person with social issues, I also am a decent AND honest person.
On any occation being stopped, whether it was to warn me for speeding (I have only had 1 speeding ticket) or tell me I had a light out, they have been rude, sarcastic, loud, agressive, and overly athoritive. I would have expected it if I was giving them an attitude, but I was raised to respect my elders, and mind athority figures, ect. ect. I answered their quetions with yes sir.. no sir... So, I shouldn't be treated like A criminal for a break light out. Yet, when they notice I am nervious (their cops and all, even if I am not doing any thing wrong they still make me feel I am.) they get pushy and try to intimidate me, I have been told that they could give me a ticket or a summons for that offense, or he could arrest me for that. So, now they think their being so great for not giving me a ticket for going 5 miles an hour over.
I did once file a complaint with one officer for harrassment. He was really being a scum bag, and offered to over look a speeding ticket and take care of it if I took care of him. I was terrified, as he pointed out that we were in the middle of no where so no one would ever have to know. That was the only time I have ever had an attitude, I was scared of him and he knew it. So I just said thanks I will pay the ticket and tried to act unintimidated. He told me how cute I was when I was mad and loved to have long hair like mine in his fists and wraped around his leg when he got his penis (Definately not the term he used) sucked. After refusing he got bored with scaring me and figured I was scared and wouldn't report it. I reported him for it. His boss didn't treat me any better and pretty much called me a spoiled lying brat. He did drop the ticket and the cop got suspended for a week mabey, WITH PAY!
I don't think I am a person with social issues and caused them to be nasty with me, yet I have had bad expiriences with them and don't care for them in general, of coarse they are all not like that, or "bad"
I called a cop once. Long story behind this big situation. Short verson of it, I had to have some one watch my dog (cats) while I was in the hospital giving birth to my daughter, I hemeraged and had to stay a while longer, I was also 2 weeks early so after leaving the hospital we had to stay some where for a while where I couldn't have the pets, she agreed to watch my dog as long as we needed her to, it may have been up to 3 months, we paid for food and every thing. After 2 weeks (what she was supposed to in the first place) she told me she wouldn't be able to give him back. Her and her sister wouldn't answer the door if I went there or they would hide him so I couldn't even see him. Then she went out of state for the SUMMER and left him at her place alone, her sister went once a day to let him out and feed him, BTW this dog I got as a rescue from the shelter I volunteered for when he was about 3 or 4 weeks old. 3 out of 5 died. He was now 10 years old, and going blind, and she left him for over a month. When I found out I made her sister give him to me, I had him back home with me for 5 weeks when her sister came back and was upset I had my dog back. Her and her sister came to my house and put him in their car and drove off with him, he was out side, so they just stole him! I knew who did it, where they lived, where the dog was, and the cop didn't do any thing about it. He told me to get any thing I had to prove he was mine together and he would see what he could do, I got all of the paper work I had on him in the 10 years, like most of his licenses, rabies, his neuter certificate, and I even had his adoption papers, I know the girl who stole him, never even took him to a vets once, or any thing else nothing saying any thing. I took the day off and waited for him, he never showed up. He blow me off 2 or 3 more times. I never saw my dog again, she would keep him hidden, or was never home. I never got to see him again, he died a couple months later. I never got to say good bye, or tell him I love him. She wont even tell me where he is so I can say bye. I have no closure. All because it was just a stupid dog, that the cop didn't want to waste his time with, I had every thing to prove it and even where they were, and they still would do any thing about it. If he would have done some thing I could have spent the last few months with him, gotten to say good bye, ect. It will be 3 years in feb. that he has been gone and I still can't get over it. It feels like it happened yesterday. I can't help think if that cop would have just came and seen me, I could have been able to say bye, and let him go. I still cry every time I think about him!
So, yeah I don't care for most cops and I haven't given them a reason to act they way they have, I have just had bad expiriences with them.

So much for the short verson, sorry about that, LOL! But given that I had all his liscenses and rabbies, couldn't he have done any thing? Am I wrong to think he could have done some thing?
But any way, these are the expiriences I have had, and I'm not a dishonest, undecent criminal mad at a cop for arresting me and pushing me around after being caught in an armed robbery or some thing.
 
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So, in your instance you appear to fall into the first category. If you think people haven't had good experiences and there are not any good cops than your eyes are closed and you are only seeing what you want to see. Sorry you had bad experiences, but not all of us have.

Need I remind, cops are humans, not a strange alien species. All have their good and bad.
 

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So, in your instance you appear to fall into the first category. If you think people haven't had good experiences and there are not any good cops than your eyes are closed and you are only seeing what you want to see. Sorry you had bad experiences, but not all of us have.

Need I remind, cops are humans, not a strange alien species. All have their good and bad.

I don't really need you to remind me any thing. You don't need to tell me what catatgory I fall into either.
My eyes aren't closed to any thing, I know there are a lot of words and you might not have all night to try and figure them all out, but if you did, all I was saying was blanket statements such as yours aren't any better then the people saying all cops suck. All your are doing is the exact same thing saying all people who have had bad expiriences are social degenerates that aren't decent people and liars, that sounds as stupid as some one saying all cops suck.
Again if you had taken the time to read it, and not just scan it to your preception, I wasn't saying cops suck, ect, ect. I also said they aren't all like that, or all bad.:rolleyes: My point was only that I have only had bad expiriences with them even though that blows your theory on only bad people have had bad expiriences or they are liars. oh, or they have their eyes closed. I know there is a lot there to decipher, but if you are going to act like you have any qualifications to analyze people, you might want to read the whole thing and figure out what was said. Try to know what you are talking about before you tell some one what kind of a person they are.

mabey I should outline the parts in my post to shorten it for you, I never said people have only had bad expiriences or have I said all cops are bad. I was just saying my expiriences, and how all I have had are bad ones AND I am not a social degenerate or deliquient, and I still have only had bad expiriences. In one part I even said not all were bad, Guess ya didn't read that part.
 

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