HELP! sophie pregnant?

[FoxyWench]

they Miss it?
they gain weight after spay/neuter?
these are excuses!

i FREE FEED and have a neutered cocker NOT overweight, ideal condition and he helps himself to his food, he was neutered at 6 months.
i free feed and have a neutered chi, NOT overweight, infact slightly underweight and he helps himself to his food he was neutered older.
my adult female chi was spayed via emergency c-section at 2 yrs, shes free fed too and guess what? NOT OVER WEIGHT!

please dont use weight gain as an excuse.
all a spay/neuter does is possibly lower the energy level, a neutered/spayed dog that gains weight is gaining weight because their humans have failed to adjust the diet according to the dogs energy level.

you dont want to cut peices out of your dog? so what you gonna do if they get cancer?
the shot does more crazyness to a females system then a spay and the spays probably cheaper and once.

as for sighns at this point its way too early to tell, essentially when the female is far enough along to tell shes pregnant you have little choice other than to either have the litter or abort via surgery and spay.

so for you its either the shot or spay cause if shes arthritic she shouldnt be having a litter. if your worried a spay might be too invasive neuter the male instead, its less invasive and hell be back to himself in 2 days!

 

[bubbatd]

Keep us posted !!

 

[Emmalee]

I don't understand why this girl is being raked across the coals if she can't help her dog's situation. Didn't she mention those were not her dog's but her parents? Shouldn't her parents be the ones being raked across the coals?

I can understand not having enough money for a neuter but aren't neuters at a reasonable price? I do hope you have healthy puppies. Maybe you can build a divider fence in your back yard to separate the two when in heat?

 

[tinies12]

Fixing the dogs should not cost that much. We had Sasha fixed for $225.00 and the Rotties are getting done this week, since there's three the vet is giving me a discount. Total cost $600.00 for 3 dogs. Just curious why you'd let the dogs go through this?

 

[Melissa_W]

I don't understand why this girl is being raked across the coals if she can't help her dog's situation. Didn't she mention those were not her dog's but her parents? Shouldn't her parents be the ones being raked across the coals?

I can understand not having enough money for a neuter but aren't neuters at a reasonable price? I do hope you have healthy puppies. Maybe you can build a divider fence in your back yard to separate the two when in heat?

I think everyone just feels this is a disaster that could have been prevented.

 

[Emmalee]

MelissaW, I agree

 

[Brattina88]

I'm very concerned for you and the dogs... If you are worried about getting money for the shot, then how can you possibly have enough money to bring puppies into the world

I wish you the best of luck, let us know how it turns out.

 

[GipsyQueen]

i don't need a lecture on why you should desex your dogs, i need the signs she might be showing if he actually got her.

So how many have lectured? How many have given advice?

Anyways, Our dog isn't spayed either, but that's besides the point.
If she is pregnant you should give her the shot, because; 1) because of her age/condition 2) it would be an oops liter, and it'll cost more than the shot.
If you keep a close watch on your dog it shouldn't get pregnant. If Sophie isn't pregnant then (and even if she is) the maybe you should get a separate area in your yard fenced in so this wont happen in the future.
Anyways, best of luck with Sophie! I can't give you any advice on the early sighs though, sorry.

 

[bubbatd]

I do wish that people would realize that the cost of a litter ends up costing as much as a spay or neuter . If there's a C section involved , it's twice as much .

 

[MafiaPrincess]

Isn't the mismate shot required super early after mating though? Not when she might be showing... Therefore you'd have to do it now, not later?

 

[smkie]

If a female dog is not fixed, she will go to extroidinary lengths to find a mate. AT the same time males will pick up that scent from miles away. THey too will go to extreme measures to get out. THat puts everyone at risk right there before they even get together. The most obedient dog will change, well all know what our own harmones do to us. THere are plenty of reduced cost programs in every major city. THe cost of having a litter is a hundred times higher, vet care for the mother, extra food for the mother, whelping box, vet care if there is any problems, puppy food, puppy shots, and STILL you have to spay mom if you don't want to go through this again. WE won't even get started on time, the time to clean, prepare, socialize, find homes. IT is a mountain of work. THen comes the final stage, finding homes for most likely a mixed breed while tens of thouands of dogs die around the world daily for lack of what these new babies are in need of. Spay your dog...spay your neighbors dog..shoot spay the neighbors too. Until we have the problem under control there are no other answers. TIs hard on mom too. I hope you can find a way to get through this, and if you do not have an emergency spay you will follow through with each step those puppies will need then i hope and pray you run the mama all the way to the vet to prevent this from ever happening again.

 

[Spirit2010]

I am just saying, Sugar was spayed, and not overweight, although I only had her for a year, she wasn't overweight at all. But, good luck, I don't have much advice on signs, because when Isis, had her pups, we didn't even know she was pregnant!!

 

[happyhound]

i think we'll probably get him a vesectomy, then we don't have to worry. i'm gonna push for that.

I know in humans that a vasectomy is not a 100% guarantee that no one will get pregnant. Not sure if this applies to dogs, though.

 

[Sapphire-Light]

If your parents don't agree to "fix" them, maybe you can try whit a panty for dog for her?

But I'm not shure if this panty could help.

 

[Jynx]

I would say two months of internet service would probably cover the cost of a neuter/spay.


Sorry, but I see the OP as saying, NOPE we won't cut parts out of our dogs, NOPE they'll get fat and lazy,,but then when someone starts pushing that issue, it's "not my fault that my mom won't cover it".

It is really really sad that dogs are the ones who will suffer in the end.
diane

 

[MafiaPrincess]

If you are going to go to the trouble and expense of a vasectomy.. A neuter has better health results.

But Jynx has a good point. Everyone else is evil for cutting parts out of their dogs.. But it's not the OP's fault cause the dogs aren't hers.

Sorry.. you can't have it both ways. If you post to have people tell you it's no big deal no worries.. I'd have thought you'd have learned long before now that when you post, people reply with opinions. Don't want advice or opinions.. don't post.

 

[Love That Collie]

I have never had an overweight spayed or neutered dog and have had many, many dogs throughout my life. And believe me none were breeds classified as high energy dogs, most were even what you might call "couch potatoes" at times.

I see the OP is from Australia, I don't know if they have different outlooks on things such as this there than say the United States? You say you or "mum" doesn't want to have control over cutting anything out of the dog? The dog doesn't know what is good or bad for it in that respect, it's up to the human owner to know best. But if your "mum" thinks it best then it's her opinion. It must be a big pain keeping them separated during the estrus cycle all these years and wondering IF anyone impregnated the female.

Frankly, I know people who have had dogs all of THEIR lives also but are not such good owners. Shoot! I know people who should never have had children either so I guess there's no changing some peoples minds. It would be cruel to let this elderly female have puppies, much more cruel than having her spayed.

 

[colliewog]

Eeek, this is a tough one! The timeframe for the mismate shot is typically 72hrs, so hopefully you have decided to get her in and get that done if you were going to do so.

 

[mrose_s]

If you are going to go to the trouble and expense of a vasectomy.. A neuter has better health results.

But Jynx has a good point. Everyone else is evil for cutting parts out of their dogs.. But it's not the OP's fault cause the dogs aren't hers.

Sorry.. you can't have it both ways. If you post to have people tell you it's no big deal no worries.. I'd have thought you'd have learned long before now that when you post, people reply with opinions. Don't want advice or opinions.. don't post.

ahh. okay. i few points.

right now, we are living off 3 nealry maxed out credit cards, paying mortgage, rent, car payments, their tick stuff for 4 dogs and a cat every 2 weeks, school fee's, food etc. $225 isn't an option right now. we just don't have it spare. we will in a couple of months but not right now.

i NEVER said everyone is evil for cutting bits out of their dogs, stop twisitng my words. i actually own a dog who is desexed, 5 years old and NOT overweight. i understand that neutered doesn't mean overweight, but it depends on the dog and with harry, yes its a concern.

i didn't post to have people say "no big deal" i KNOW its a big deal. and i did come looking for advice, if you had gone to the trouble of ACTUALLy readign my initial post you would know that. i really don't need to be flamed here. i'm not stupid.

but seriously what the hell am i ment to do? run off with the dogs and somehow pay for them to get desexed? their not mine. mum is considering getting sophie spayed as of this heat. but its her decision. why doesn't anyone understand that?

 

[mrose_s]

Eeek, this is a tough one! The timeframe for the mismate shot is typically 72hrs, so hopefully you have decided to get her in and get that done if you were going to do so.

the time frame is 45days. but we wouldn't wait that long