Help me pick the perfect breed

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  1. SimplyCoutured

    SimplyCoutured New Member

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    Towards the end of the year I will most likely be bringing home a new puppy as a gift from my grandparents. I've had such trouble picking out a breed I'm interested in, it's ridiculous. I thought that maybe if I described myself and what I need/prefer in a dog, that you could all help me come up with one or even two breeds that are compatible with my life.

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    I'll be 20 soon. I'm in college, but despite going full time, I have very flexible hours. I would be able to come home around lunch time to be with the puppy until it did fine on its own. I'll be getting the puppy when I have almost 2 months off of class, so she'll have enough time to get some basic training done. I've worked at a vet's office for awhile, so I have a decent amount of background knowledge. I've also had pets, including dogs, throughout my life. My family has a rott/german shepherd mix right now, but she's at a different house. She plays too rough to be a good companion to my dog :/
    I own a 6 year old, neutared, front declawed cat, who is very attached to me. I definitely need a dog that does well with cats.
    I stay at my grandparents house but sometimes my siblings come over. However, the youngest is already 11, so she's not a danger to small animals.
    I'm very active, but would like a dog that loves to snuggle up on the couch sometimes. :D I would like to take her through a few obedience courses, from puppy to advanced, so a dog that isn't too stubborn would be nice, although i do realize that that also depends on the individual's personality. Also, I'd like one that would like to go on little errands with me wherever dogs are allowed (don't you hate seeing dogs in grocery stores? D: ) Also, living in Southern California, there is an awesome dog beach nearby I'd consider taking her to. And various dog parks as well. I have a neighbor and a good friend with amazing yards that would love to have her over to be pals with their small dogs.
    I prefer to not have a dog that yaps his little head off. Some breeds are more prone to being 'talkative' I guess.
    A big issue I have is that it would have to be litter trained. We have a big back/front yard, but unfortunately it was rocked in a few years ago (and we have a pool). I don't like puppy pads. At all. So I would need a dog that's alright with a litter box. Training won't be a big deal. I expect accidents and that it will take awhile, especially with a box.
    I'm definitely going to be getting a toy dog. I'd prefer the weight to be no more than 15 lbs. give or take a few. Also, I'm not too picky on the coat length, although I prefer them to be on the long-ish side. I DO have allergies to every animal on this planet however, and it can be to the point where it's difficult to breathe. BUT this hasn't stopped me from owning dogs, cats, horses, rabbits, etc., but it would be nice to not have layers of dog hair on every outfit I own. I'm fine with grooming, even a few times a day. It's relaxing and even my cat looks forward to it (and we all know how cats are...).

    The breeds I'm considering:
    -Papillon (my top pick right now)
    -Yorkie
    -Maltese
    -Mini Dachshund (long hair)
    -Pomeranian (very hairy, I know)
    -Westie (iffy on this, heard they're not so good with cats?).

    I'd love to hear of your experience with these breeds, or even just your opinions. Or even suggestions for a different breed? I'm open to 'designer' breeds as well, as long as they fit in with my life/needs.
     
  2. Gempress

    Gempress Walks into Mordor

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    Congrats on the dog! First, I'd skip the westie. Not always good with small animals, and like most terriers, can be yappy. And sense you want to train to litter, I personally would get a female just because they usually squat instead of spray.

    All the rest look like good choices, though. Papillons in particular are active little dogs.

    But whatever breed you get, be extremely careful in your search for a breeder or rescue pup. All the toy breeds are very much in vogue right now. There are unscrupulous breeders left and right, churning out as many pups and possible and selling for as high as possible.
     
  3. SimplyCoutured

    SimplyCoutured New Member

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    Yeah, I've seen evidence of that. :/ But I have quite awhile to look for the perfect pup. I realize that I may have to go online to find the right one, even if the idea is a little scary D:
     
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    ~Jessie~ Chihuahua Power!

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    Have you considered a Long Coat Chihuahua? They seem to fit into your list of breed choices.
     
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    Not to offend any Chihuahua owners, but I've never been all that partial to them. The Long coats do interest me to a point, but I've never known a decent one. They all tend to be too afraid or too bossy. I don't want a dog that shakes from fear, nor do i want one that thinks he's top dog, so to speak. I understand that this is nature vs nurture, but I don't think they're the right breed for me.
    I appreciate the input though :D It's suggestions like yours that are really helpful


    The Maltese are growing on me more and more. Do they tend to have problems with tearing? I'd love to hear a lot about them. I'm doing some research right now. Lately, I've only really been looking at Papillon info.
     
  6. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    I know I've talked to you before, but a couple things I think I should mention...

    Papillons can be pretty talkative dogs. Mine are quiet most the day but they do bark more than some other breeds. Rose is abnormal in that she doesn't bark hardly at all- maybe once or twice every week or two. she does make other noises, lots of little grunts and groans. Nard makes some weird noises that the forum has heard before. He doesn't bark except for when he's really keyed up or bugging one of the older dogs.

    They also shed. summer sheds so much more than the others. I don't know why, but my bed is covered in little white hairs. A lint roller is a must. They don't blow coat like most other longhaired dogs do, they don't have an undercoat. I think if I just had one (and no sheltie) the hair would be easy to manage, but with 4 constantly camping out on my bed they do get hair on it.

    Other than that, they fit great with what you want. I can't say enough good things about the breed. They're outstanding little dogs.
     
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    I can't suggest to you as I like bigger breeds . I would suggest not picking a breed but go to HS or Petfinder and let them find you !
     
  8. SimplyCoutured

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    Laurelin: I've been meaning to get back to you. I was away from the computer for a week or so lol Talkative is ok, but excessive barking for no reason is not. But I do understand that most of that can be corrected/prevented with good training :) Also, I don't expect to find a non shedding dog :p Even humans shed, me especially with long hair hahaha My cat does and he's gray. You wear black, you see it. You wear white, you see it :p Lint rollers are a staple in my life XD But I've been to someone's house where it seems to be snowing hair all around the dog. That's what i don't want XD

    Bubbatd: We've had some rescue dogs in the past. Their wonderful and loving and it feels good to do something good like adopt, but I'm pretty adamant this time about finding a breeder and being able to know about the parents, siblings, etc. I know that if I'm not looking for a specific breed, I'll bring home something I might not be ready for.
     
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    SC ... I was a breed snob for over 50 yrs. !! So I completely understand !! When my daughter had one of my offsprings and then adopted a HS Lab I was "" what the ___ " Yogi turned out to be a wonderful dog and now Hunter is Grammy's love . So when I lost my Chip , I bit the bullet and adopted Ollie ... I'll never regret ! Go with your heart !
     
  10. Renee750il

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    With your allergies, have you considered a Miniature Poodle or a Crestie? Either breed would fit very well with your other criteria.
     
  11. SimplyCoutured

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    Poodles are another dog I'm not all that fond of. I have been looking at Poodle designer breeds though. :) And yeah, I've checked out the Chinese Crested. The hairless actually appeals to me, but sunburn is a major problem here and I'd be constantly worried. It'd be a year round issue considering CA has only 2 temperatures: hot and hotter hahaha
     
  12. Jadens_Slave

    Jadens_Slave My Master

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    Well i have a westie mix..so ill speak from my point of view as a westie owner :)

    First off, ENERGY. My goodness. But i think thats all terriers. Shes calmed down alot now that shes 3, but puppy wise, at 19 (when i got her) I had a hard time keeping up with her! lol. But personality wise, spiteful at times, extremely smart, very sweet, stubborn, thick headed for sure!, but obediant at the same time, very people friendly.

    Oh and about the cats..ive never heard of that? One thing that was always said to me to (i own 10 birds) was that because she was a "terrier" shed be a horrible dog around birds. WRONG. She is absolutely wonderful. Shes extremely good natured and will sit there and allow my birds to crawl all over her and do nothing. She even takes the evil chases from my Goffins who thinks shes a toy lol.

    Overall i love her dearly. I think theyre great dogs. I had a pomeranian years ago..i think theyre the cutest things ever. One thing i noticed about Bear was he was more of a one person dog (my dog). But i got him when he was older so he may have had his reasons. He was a bit nippy to other people, very yappy. I dont find Lacey yappy at all..but i will say she is very protective.
     
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    I understand protective :p I have a rott/german shepherd. I don't mind taking her out alone, she growls at anyone and everyone she doesn't know how gets close enough haha She's all bark, no bite though. But because of her looks/size, everyone is terrified of her, poor thing. She's really a sweetheart with her chubby cheeks and the way she shakes her butt when she walks :D
    It's good to hear the other side of the story concerning Westies and other animals. Thats a huge reason why I posted here! I've become more in love with them lately than I was previously.
    Omg, my friend has a pom. Too cute! You just want to steal him hahaha Especially with his little lion cut. Talk about irresistible!
     
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    Haha, I USED to think Lacey was all bark. I was walking with her alone at my old apartments when she was about a year old.(late at night by the way). Well some guy approached me from behind (i didnt see him) and was going to ask me if he could borrow my pool key so he could get a soda being that the vending machine was in the pool area. Well... if i wasnt holding Lacey, i wouldve been in trouble. Not ONLY did she snarl, she LUNGED at this guy. She came inches from his leg and was out for blood..i was SHOCKED.

    I really do adore poms! I hope one day to have another. But 3 dogs would really be pushing it for me..i think 2 is! Yet i can have a whole flock of birds..nothing wrong with me LOL
     
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    Wow hahaha for being so cute, they sure can protect
    Roxy has gotten a lot better. She still barks when someone pulls in the driveway. Not excessively, just a warning. It's very deep and makes new visitors nervous the first few times. It's so cute to see such a girly dog with a big mean bark haha
    I fell in love with Westies after seeing the Cesar dog food commercial. How can you not love a face like that? It's probably the world's cutest westie lol
     
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    Aww i know just what one youre talking about! Haha. I actually never heard of one until my friend got Laceys mother. Cute little fluffy dog, i was in LOVE. Its good to have a dog with a mean bark :) Im glad my dogs are barkers, i think it makes people think twice before breaking into a home..just my opinion tho :D They cant SEE them, but they hear 2 dogs barking. I dont think mind sound very small..hehe
     
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    They have a female Westie pup in the pet store at the mall. It's so tempting to buy, but I don't have the time for a puppy right now :( And I try to stay away from the pet store ones. It's just so hard to find breeders, even in a well populated place like San Diego.
    The Maltese has also been on my mind lately. I'm doing some research on them right now. They're too cute :D Them and Yorktese/Morkies.
     
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    Yes... stay away from pet stores. FAR, far away! Miles, if possible. D: Buying a pet store puppy is putting money right into the pockets of horrendous, morally corrupt a-holes who could care less about where their puppies end up. Not only that, but you're paying $1000's for a potentially diseased and probably genetically/structurally unsound puppy... not to mention the lack of care for temperament and poor socialization.

    If you want a cute little mixed breed puppy, search Pet adoption: Want a dog or cat? Adopt a pet on Petfinder. I adopted a super precious mixed breed puppy through petfinder, and there are countless adorable, small mixed breed (and even purebred) pups up for adoption in Southern California. Please, for the love of doG, do not purchase a Yorktese/Morkie/Mindy (did you get that joke? nanunanu) from an unscrupulous "designer" dog breeder. There are more than enough adorable mixed breeds dying in shelters without ignoramuses breeding them, giving them a ridiculous name and selling them for $1000's more than a rescue pup of the same exact caliber.

    If you are interested in a breeder, make sure they do health checks. That means x-raying and certifying the hips, elbows/patellas, eyes, etc of the parent dogs. As well as temperament testing on all of the breeding dogs, and complete availability to meet the parents. It's also preferable that the parents are titled in conformation... at least pointed, if not a CH. Show dogs might seem excessive, but in the end, dog showing is completely practical and necessary to maintain the physical appearance of many breeds. Imagine a Pug without a flat nose. Or a 30-lb Chihuahua. Conformation showing helps to preserve the individual qualities of the breeds we have, so it's essential that dogs who are bred have proven themselves in the show ring to be a great example of their breed. Check out Jane Anderson's Learn to Breed Site to find out what to look for in a breeder. Google the national breed club for the breeds you're interested in to get into contact with good breeders who are truly passionate about their breed and producing sound dogs. Doing so, and finding a reputable breeder rather than buying from a random internet/classified ad breeder or pet store, can end up saving you $1000's in Vet bills, and countless hours of training, pain and heartache.

    Based on your description, I recommend a cute "designer" Poodle mix from a shelter/rescue (btw, Poodle mixes are no guarantee that the dog will be hypoallergenic). Maybe a Shih Tzu? I set up this search San Diego, CA: Adoptable Pets: Petfinder for you to browse. :)
     
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    please don't buy a mixed breed dog from a breeder, breeding mixes is a fad because people realized they could make money off of dogs with ridiculous names by pretending they are some cool new breed. They are not, obviously, they are not breeds anymore than the mutt from the shelter is a breed.

    I can't be any help with the breeds but when you choose one I can help you find a GOOD breeder.
     
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    On the westie - yes, terriers, but I don't believe that they all grow up yappy and chasing cats.

    At all.... Not only from meeting many (considered family pets and 'old lady' dogs here), but my 'old lady' had one ;) My gran had a lovely westie (who is still alive living with my uncle - not rehomed, my gran died) called Suzie, who grew up with cats and thousands and thousands of small grandchildren. And she was a love bug sweetie.

    Like all westies I have met.
     

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