Great Forum, but must leave

[PuppyBreath]

I'm impressed by the interaction and subject matters of this forum, however, because of the limitations, I must leave as I'm not able to post cruelty subject matter and I feel without this knowledge, there isn't much this group can do to help take action.

Animal cruelty is my main focus and I had hoped a forum like this, with such an intelligent group of members, would be an asset for the Voiceless Victims.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[Whisper]

What in the world are you talking about?

I think this.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Oh.. I didn't bother with that thread....

*shrugs*

Win some and you lose some... life moves on.

 

[Whisper]

I'm sorry you feel you have to leave. . .but goodbye.

 

[soft pawz]

hm, i read the topic but honestly dont see one reason why puppybreath wants to leave??? is it just me

 

[Whisper]

hm, i read the topic but honestly dont see one reason why puppybreath wants to leave??? is it just me

Well. . .I don't know. . .PB said:

I must leave as I'm not able to post cruelty subject matter and I feel without this knowledge, there isn't much this group can do to help take action.

Animal cruelty is my main focus and I had hoped a forum like this, with such an intelligent group of members, would be an asset for the Voiceless Victims.

I think he/she feels like they can't do thier full purpose of posting cruelty matter if the situations which they post are "limited."
*shrugs*

 

[J's crew]

Oh.. I didn't bother with that thread....

*shrugs*

Win some and you lose some... life moves on.

Without educating people on what really goes on in the "real" world there are alot of people that just have no clue. Knowledge is power and often moves people to try to make a difference.

Maybe I misunderstood your uncaring attitiude.

I think it is VERY important that people "see" what is going on, and maybe do what they can to help put a stop to it.

PuppyBreath, your post was appreciated by me. Please stay. Awareness is the first step in stopping animal abuse.

 

[dr2little]

Personally, I never open these threads except to skip the OP and read the responses...and even that's a rarity for me.
I honestly find that often times they are so horrible that I can't get them out of my mind and I'm just left feeling helpless, angry and lousy.

I do however find that the links allowing us to sign petitions and actually be part of the solution are more appropriate...those I'll always open, read and possibly sign.

I deal with cruelty everday in my work. I come to Chaz to celebrate, along with other passionate dog lovers, the bond we have and the joy we feel with our dogs. This is also a great place to help other dog owners when I can and to get advise on things from others on here with wonderful information to share.

I'm sorry that you feel you need to leave...this is really a great place.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Without educating people on what really goes on in the "real" world there are alot of people that just have no clue. Knowledge is power and often moves people to try to make a difference.

Maybe I misunderstood your uncaring attitiude.

I think it is VERY important that people "see" what is going on, and maybe do what they can to help put a stop to it.

PuppyBreath, your post was appreciated by me. Please stay. Awareness is the first step in stopping animal abuse.

Waaaaiiiiit a minute, you misunderstood me completely.

The reason I did not bother with that thread is because threads like that go nowhere.. and as we saw, they get closed quickly.

I KNOW that there are sick people out there. I understand it and I chose not to read threads like that. It does not mean that I do not appreciate the OP's objective and I am VERY informed.

I have also found that if someone wants to leave.. they're gonna leave. There is no amount of pleading and begging that can get someone to stay. That's why I said you win some, you lose some.

I can go into this whole speel on how I think PB should NOT leave... but it's a waste of my efforts because he/she already feels strongly about their leaving.

Instead, I'll focus my efforts elsewhere, like the hour I just spent at my local shelter, spending time with the dogs, cats and rabbits that do not have homes.

I will not apologize if that makes me uncaring.

 

[Saje]

I don't get it. You (OP) did post about the subject. It's not deleted. People can still read it. Looks like you are 'able' to post cruelty subject matter. It's true, however, that you have to remember your audience and this is a family friendly forum. Parents have raised concerns because their kids read this forum. It's understandable. I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[bubbatd]

You haven't been here long and please don't judge us as uncaring about you or your cause . Do what you want to do , but I feel Chaz is the most caring of all I've seen . Whatever you do ,or wherever you go , I wish you well .

 

[PuppyBreath]

To the poster above...I never claimed anyone here of being uncaring. Quite the contrary. And my decision was not based soley on ONE post. It was the rule about posting such subject matter. Even with links, kids a post know how to click on those liks, so what's the difference if it's posted in it's entirety? A lot of articles tend to disappear, or rotate on a news site, so that's why I copy it.

It has also come to my attention that my posts are "clutter" because I put up topics already posted, even though the content is different. It was suggested I read through to see if something I want to post is already on the forum. Now, honestly, I really don't have that kind of time to research all the threads to see if I'm going to duplicate something.

I have too many animal rescues, shelter issues, and cruelty cases to keep up with, and my time is well absorbed by that.

Sorry if anyone feels offended, but If I'm to continue on my journey to see laws changed regarding Puppy Mills, inhumane shelters, and stiffer penalties for animal abuse and cruelty, I need to be able to feel free to post without worrying whether or not someone will be offended by a particular post, or whether it's a subject that has already been discussed.

 

[Red_ACD_for_me]

To the poster above...I never claimed anyone here of being uncaring. Quite the contrary. And my decision was not based soley on ONE post. It was the rule about posting such subject matter. Even with links, kids a post know how to click on those liks, so what's the difference if it's posted in it's entirety? A lot of articles tend to disappear, or rotate on a news site, so that's why I copy it.

It has also come to my attention that my posts are "clutter" because I put up topics already posted, even though the content is different. It was suggested I read through to see if something I want to post is already on the forum. Now, honestly, I really don't have that kind of time to research all the threads to see if I'm going to duplicate something.

I have too many animal rescues, shelter issues, and cruelty cases to keep up with, and my time is well absorbed by that.

Sorry if anyone feels offended, but If I'm to continue on my journey to see laws changed regarding Puppy Mills, inhumane shelters, and stiffer penalties for animal abuse and cruelty, I need to be able to feel free to post without worrying whether or not someone will be offended by a particular post, or whether it's a subject that has already been discussed.

I think it is wonderful what you do and spread the word of what really happens out there. Not everyone who owns animals is loving and caring as we all know. Please stay puppybreath and spread your word! And I'm sorry but being a mother of a young child myself as she gets older I will monitor what she is reviewing on the internet and won't leave her unattended until she is much older than 13, 14, and even 15. Parents today need to know what there kids are up to on-line. I think that some of the subject matter on here whether it is in regards to animal abuse or everyday life for chazzers should be monitered by an adult if your children read the forum. Parental advisory suggested *wink*

 

[Buddy'sParents]

To the poster above...I never claimed anyone here of being uncaring. Quite the contrary. And my decision was not based soley on ONE post. It was the rule about posting such subject matter. Even with links, kids a post know how to click on those liks, so what's the difference if it's posted in it's entirety? A lot of articles tend to disappear, or rotate on a news site, so that's why I copy it.

It has also come to my attention that my posts are "clutter" because I put up topics already posted, even though the content is different. It was suggested I read through to see if something I want to post is already on the forum. Now, honestly, I really don't have that kind of time to research all the threads to see if I'm going to duplicate something.

I have too many animal rescues, shelter issues, and cruelty cases to keep up with, and my time is well absorbed by that.

Sorry if anyone feels offended, but If I'm to continue on my journey to see laws changed regarding Puppy Mills, inhumane shelters, and stiffer penalties for animal abuse and cruelty, I need to be able to feel free to post without worrying whether or not someone will be offended by a particular post, or whether it's a subject that has already been discussed.

The thing is people are offended and will be offended, but it does not mean that the information you post is not valid or beneficial.

The title of the thread talked about in this thread was upsetting to me so I did not bother to look at it... Was I offended? Yes, because that sort of thing sickens me and I just don't understand how anyone can be so cruel and utterly disgusting to a dog. But, it was not YOU that offended me. Does that make sense? *sigh*

You can free to post things, just as Saje said, but this is a family forum...

 

[Cassiepeia]

Why bother posting an 'I'm leaving' thread? Was it so people could beg you to stay or so you could try to force the admin to unlock your thread or apologise to you for something?
I see no reason for this. If you're going to leave...then leave. Why make a fuss?

Personally I think that if you want to spread the word about your causes then you should take the time to work within the forum rules and with the members. There is no reason why you can't post info about animal abuse cases and I really think it's a wonderful thing that you're doing (and should continue to do). But being huffy and childish about leaving a forum you've only just joined is a bit over the top.

Cass.

 

[Carolyn]

I didn't happen to catch your original posting, but as drLittle said, sometimes we just can't bring ourselves to look at this stuff. We know it's out there, we don't like it, we don't like the people doing it, but that doesn't mean we don't agree, or think it's wonderful what you are trying to do.

The china dogs for example? I made myself look at a video of those poor dogs getting beaten to death, even though I knew what it was all about. All I have is regrets for watching it. It didn't make me any the wiser. I still know what goes on there, and I still know it's horrific, yet I made myself watch it and for what? It caused me nothing but heartache.

I think it's commendable what you are trying to achieve but as Cassie said, if you do feel you can't stay, I see no point for this long drawn out post.

I think it's a shame you are leaving, because I have found that Chaz has to be the best that there is . I've been on a couple of disgraceful forums, with disgraceful behaviour, bias and all sorts of things. Chaz is warm friendly, full of wonderful advice, and beautiful people that just love being here and spending time with their animal lover friends

It would be a shame to not be part of that, however I wish you the very best of luck in your efforts.

Caz

 

[IliamnasQuest]

Sorry if anyone feels offended, but If I'm to continue on my journey to see laws changed regarding Puppy Mills, inhumane shelters, and stiffer penalties for animal abuse and cruelty, I need to be able to feel free to post without worrying whether or not someone will be offended by a particular post, or whether it's a subject that has already been discussed.

In all honesty, if you want to post on any online forum that doesn't belong to YOU, then you have to follow certain guidelines and rules. Some people are able to play within the rules, some people have this idea that they should be able to do whatever they want regardless. Evidently you don't feel you can follow the rules even though this forum is very open compared to many.

If you truly wanted to help animals as you state so frequently, it would seem to me that you would be far better off staying on a popular forum like this and finding a way to work within the rules instead of getting all upset because you can't do whatever you want. There is a lot you CAN post here .. and there's plenty to go around when it comes to puppy mills, animal abuse, etc. It makes much more sense to use the forum as you can to help your cause, whatever it may be, then to stalk off after an indignant declaration of "I'm not playing because I can't make the rules".

Keep in mind that it takes more than a love of animals to get people to see your point of view .. you need to have people skills and to be able to present things in a way that will encourage them to support you. This particular thread is working against you because you sound petulant. You're welcome to stay and post within the rules, or you're welcome to go. There's no need to try to make the forum look bad on the way out, though .. not that you really can .. *L*

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

 

[Meggie]

Hmmmm, well, my opinion..... While Freedom of Speech is a great concept, it doesn't really apply to the internet too well. In a public park, on a soapbox, it works. But internet sites and forums are owned by somebody, making them not a public place in the same sense. The owners can dictate the rules of what can or cannot be said on their "space" and sexual content is usually the first one on the list.

This site is NOT an adult-only site and while you may feel that 13 year olds are old enough to know and learn about certain forms of animal abuse, I would beg to differ. That's not saying I don't think you should post about it, but a little more care in your subject lines would be nice. Just my opinion though.

My daughter is 12 and not allowed on chats or forums. Sheltered? Maybe, but it's my choice as her mother. Our computer is in a high-traffic area in our house. My daughter will often hover at my shoulder when I'm here because she loves oohing and awwwing over pictures of people's dogs. Your subject line on that one thread........ I tell you, a conversation about bestiality with my 12 year old daughter is NOT something I'd want on the agenda.

Whether you leave or stay, your choice. Personally I think your threads are fine, if I didn't want to hear it, I'd skip them.

 

[ToscasMom]

You folks have pretty much handled this thread better than I could have, but I would like to add one more thing. There are people who post on this board who have educational wisdom beyond belief, and there are people on this board who have done awesome things for animals in trouble and they never wave their flag about it. In fact, some of the knowledge they impart and some of the work they do is absolutely humbling. One of the reasons it is absolutely humbling is that they do it humbly.