Excited about Windows 7?

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Anyone remember the AppleIIGS? Or something like that? I remember using Bankstreet Writer as my writing program. Oh the girnormous floppy disks.......and the memories. :D
 

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RedHotDobe is right - the design programs run on Windows, but Windows does a **** poor job of running them. For someone who has to design on a deadline (which means ALL professionals), keyboard shortcuts are a must. Mac's shortcuts are clustered together, reduces finger strain. RHD is so right - designing on a Mac is... seamless, smooth and svelte.

At the print shop I used to work, the people who bought the design computers were idiots and got PCs - they weren't designers, they were management goofs. It was painful to work on them... the programs were clumsy and slow, my hand ached after a day's work from the finger strain.
Are you saying that a computer running Mac OS is not a PC, because the last time I checked PC stands for personal computer, not for MS Windows? Not only professionals use Mac OS, I see a lot of people using it for their personal use like checking their email and browsing the Web.
 

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Are you saying that a computer running Mac OS is not a PC, because the last time I checked PC stands for personal computer, not for MS Windows? Not only professionals use Mac OS, I see a lot of people using it for their personal use like checking their email and browsing the Web.
Wow, you're really hellbent on trashing my choice - my professional choice - to use Macs, eh? When I say PC, I'm using it to describe a machine that runs Windows, but I think you knew that.

And yes, I also use my Mac to surf the internet and check my email... it's a very versatile machine. There's nothing wrong with that, is there? Or do you think everyone should use PCs (and by that I mean machines that run Windows)? I'm getting the feeling that you do.
 

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Wow, you're really hellbent on trashing my choice - my professional choice - to use Macs, eh? When I say PC, I'm using it to describe a machine that runs Windows, but I think you knew that.

And yes, I also use my Mac to surf the internet and check my email... it's a very versatile machine. There's nothing wrong with that, is there? Or do you think everyone should use PCs (and by that I mean machines that run Windows)? I'm getting the feeling that you do.
No. I do not like Vista myself. I am just saying that a Mac is a PC also and that those Apple ads just brainwash people. However, I understand your professional choice.
 

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RedHotDobe is right - the design programs run on Windows, but Windows does a **** poor job of running them. For someone who has to design on a deadline (which means ALL professionals), keyboard shortcuts are a must. Mac's shortcuts are clustered together, reduces finger strain. RHD is so right - designing on a Mac is... seamless, smooth and svelte.
Granted the only 'design' programs I've played with are those based on 3D design (Cinema 4D, Studio Max, Maya, etc) and Photoshop here and there but I've never found the windows short cuts to be clunky in any way.

And if there's a short cut I don't like, it can usually be changed via a menu to one that isn't clunky and save me $600 on buying a new computer for a new set of hot keys.


The only real (legit, logical) reason I've heard to date for a Mac to be better than a PC is that it renders graphics better (3D plus sharper digital imagery) and has better color perception which is useful in pathology. Now, granted it's not a huge difference, certainly not enough for a layman, but when the pathologist needs to be able to see the difference between a light shade of purple and a lighter shade of purple, it can be a worthwhile extra $600.

Other than that it's just nit picking and marketing. Macs are pretty much the Harley-Davidson's of the computer world.
 
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If Windows 7 will be free, then I will gladly update Justin's computer with it. Vista is trash. He can't even use his computer for what he bought it for, which is gaming. His games don't work on Vista. I don't know why.

Otherwise, I too am a Mac girl. And not for professional reasons. My Mac doesn't mess up on me nearly as much as Windows machines do. It's easier, more convenient, faster, better... totally worth the little bit extra $$.
 

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If Windows 7 will be free, then I will gladly update Justin's computer with it. Vista is trash. He can't even use his computer for what he bought it for, which is gaming. His games don't work on Vista. I don't know why.

Otherwise, I too am a Mac girl. And not for professional reasons. My Mac doesn't mess up on me nearly as much as Windows machines do. It's easier, more convenient, faster, better... totally worth the little bit extra $$.
The paradox is that Vista was made for gaming with the introduction of DirectX 10. It is good for gaming if you have a really fast computer with a solid video card. Otherwise, kids don't try it at home ;)! I build my own computers, so I do not have the need for a Mac and to spend the extra $$$. I can build a pretty fast machine for a lower price than that at the stores and save some money. Windows 7 would be a welcomed addition to my custom-built machine.
 

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They are not hard to build really, the desktops anyway, The parts are easy to find and pretty cheap as well.

I put together a G5 desktop in a G3 case and loaded up the whole thing with OS X. And yes I did BUY the OS X. lol My friend was paying for it anyway. The whole thing only cost him $500 some dollars with the OS X.
 
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The paradox is that Vista was made for gaming with the introduction of DirectX 10. It is good for gaming if you have a really fast computer with a solid video card. Otherwise, kids don't try it at home ;)! I build my own computers, so I do not have the need for a Mac and to spend the extra $$$. I can build a pretty fast machine for a lower price than that at the stores and save some money. Windows 7 would be a welcomed addition to my custom-built machine.
It's funny... he bought the computer from a computer store (Microcenter) when Vista was just coming out, and he told the sales guy he wanted something to game on. But none of his games that he likes to play have ever worked well on it, including a new game that he bought with it. Of course they wouldn't take any of it back. :rolleyes: So he doesn't even use his computer anymore. Waste of money. The only thing it gets used for now is so I can play monopoly on pogo.com, because Java doesn't run very well on my Mac.
 

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It's funny... he bought the computer from a computer store (Microcenter) when Vista was just coming out, and he told the sales guy he wanted something to game on. But none of his games that he likes to play have ever worked well on it, including a new game that he bought with it. Of course they wouldn't take any of it back. :rolleyes: So he doesn't even use his computer anymore. Waste of money. The only thing it gets used for now is so I can play monopoly on pogo.com, because Java doesn't run very well on my Mac.
Oh yeah, you just reminded me. Macs are not good for gaming :). Not many games available, that is unless you only play online games. Microsoft kind of pushed Vista onto its customers, and every new computer comes pre-installed with it which does not sound like you have any choice really. The sales people will always tell you what you want to hear, remember that ;). They are there to sell you the product, and if you do not know any better, they can pretty much sell you anything.
 

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They are not hard to build really, the desktops anyway, The parts are easy to find and pretty cheap as well.

I put together a G5 desktop in a G3 case and loaded up the whole thing with OS X. And yes I did BUY the OS X. lol My friend was paying for it anyway. The whole thing only cost him $500 some dollars with the OS X.
It shouldn't be hard to do it now since they switched to Intel processors. They used PowerPC CPUs before and the motherboard was different. I haven't looked at the quality of the parts they use now, but I bet they are not a lot better then the ones found on a standard store-bought PC. If you ask me, why would you even try replicating their configuration when you can build whatever you like and suit it to your needs?
 

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It shouldn't be hard to do it now since they switched to Intel processors. They used PowerPC CPUs before and the motherboard was different. I haven't looked at the quality of the parts they use now, but I bet they are not a lot better then the ones found on a standard store-bought PC. If you ask me, why would you even try replicating their configuration when you can build whatever you like and suit it to your needs?

What do you mean by that??
 

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I mean why do you want to build a computer with the same hardware that Apple uses? So that you can install Mac OS?

Why would you want to build a windows machine with the same hardware that windows uses?

That makes no sesne at all.

Lets see, my friend wanted a cheap Mac G5, get the parts all together, plus extra RAM, faster CPU, and I already had a G3 case here at home that I was going to throw away, so I used it instead and kept the cost down.

And lets see, ah, you use windows hardware to use windows on? Thats the same thing that I did with a Mac, So you seem to like to push down on mac no matter what.
 

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Why would you want to build a windows machine with the same hardware that windows uses?

That makes no sesne at all.

Lets see, my friend wanted a cheap Mac G5, get the parts all together, plus extra RAM, faster CPU, and I already had a G3 case here at home that I was going to throw away, so I used it instead and kept the cost down.

And lets see, ah, you use windows hardware to use windows on? Thats the same thing that I did with a Mac, So you seem to like to push down on mac no matter what.
Well, I also have Linux set up as a dual boot, so I am not all Windows pro. For some reason, Apple to me is all about buzz. They wouldn't be where they are today if they didn't start selling the iPod. On the other hand, I like them because they keep Microsoft on the edge and provide some competition.
 

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Hehe, this is starting to be fun.

I like how you just threw the whole question out the window.
Myself I do not like Macs and won't use one, I just like Windows better.

You asked me why I would want to replicate their configuration when I can build whatever I like and suit it to my needs. Well, I did suit it to my friends needs. and had no trouble with it at all.

You can on both windows and mac machine store bought or home built.

And you can dual boot Linux on any mac out there right now as well.

Me think you are just trying to get everyone away from apple for some reason. lol

oh,BTW, I hate Ipods to, but I love Zune's.
 

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Hehe, this is starting to be fun.

I like how you just threw the whole question out the window.
Myself I do not like Macs and won't use one, I just like Windows better.

You asked me why I would want to replicate their configuration when I can build whatever I like and suit it to my needs. Well, I did suit it to my friends needs. and had no trouble with it at all.

You can on both windows and mac machine store bought or home built.

And you can dual boot Linux on any mac out there right now as well.

Me think you are just trying to get everyone away from apple for some reason. lol

oh,BTW, I hate Ipods to, but I love Zune's.
I've heard good things about the new Zune, although cannot say anything about it since I do not own one. Whatever I say, I will get accused of supporting Microsoft. lol
Apple computers are better for some people than others depending on their profession and their GUI preferences. Let's just leave it at that. :)
 

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