Dogs are not disposable.

[Dekka]

But what about the breeds that can be kept with the same sex and were kept in a house, not a kennel? (If someone keeps their dogs caged up in a kennel all day with no individual attention or love, then they're crappy dog owners anyway, IMO, whether they are champion breeders or Joe Schmoe down the street.) From the dog's point of view, they're being abandoned just as much as the dog who's dumped on a friend or neighbor because "he sheds too much / he eats too much / he barks too much." Just like the one dog doesn't understand that he's being given away because of how much he sheds, eats, or barks, the other dog is not going to understand that he's being given away because his tail is held at the wrong height or his legs grew too long. The emotional toll is the same.

LOL that would be one way to keep JRTs to a minimum. You would only be able to breed one girl, (cause you couldn't have more). Many people, even very experience JRT breeders, are too leary of letting 2 same sex dogs out together.

So 99% of JRT breeders have their dogs in kennels. I guess I don't think dogs care that much about where they live, as long as someone loves them, and looks after them properly. If people are saying we shouldnt rehome dogs because it is bad for the dogs, I disagree, I want a dog to be as happy as possible. If you are saying that people should keep them in order to be responsable, well then I say you are not looking at the dog.

As I posted on the dog (who did about 4000 dollars in damage to other dogs while in my house..though not all at once) who was extremely atatched to me. She comes over, but is thrilled to leave, with her new person, who adores her. She is happier in a quieter home. Soooo I should have kept this dog, who didnt' want to share her home with other dogs. Forced her to live with the others, and force her (who put everyone on edge, which was very noticable when she left-it was like the whole house gave a sigh of relief) on the others. I loved this dog. I bought her to breed (but never did) spayed her. Trialed her etc..I gave her to a friend, because it was where the dog could be happy. I could have been selfish and kept her.

 

[noludoru]

Summer... :hail: I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Dekka, there's a difference.. IMO.

Case A:

A breeder who doesn't breed often and loves her dogs.. has one dog who is NOT happy in a busy, multi-dog household and it truly would be better for the dog to be rehomed. Breeder has tried everything to make it work, and isn't breeding more litters (more dogs + less time for her) while she has the dog. Dog still is unhappy. Dog is rehomed for very little to no money with a responsible, good owner who will love it.

Case B:

Breeder who breeds many litters and also has a busy household, with many dogs to take care of. Breeds litter after litter, keeping show/hunting/whatever prospects and if they get older and don't pan out sells them at a normal puppy price or more to pet homes. This breeder may or may not sell to homes that will cherish the dog and be able to provide. Once the dogs are bred out (females old, males old and no more stud fees) or if the dogs aren't worth breeding, they are also sold. Once again, often for more than the usual price of a pup--because they have been trained and titled.

I don't approve of case B. Now, not all are the same. But if you aren't deliberately doing things you know will stress your dogs out and you are putting BREEDING above your current family members... I think you're okay. But there are, as I said, shades of grey here and in between cases as well as cases nothing like I've described.

I don't have a problem with rehoming a dog to a better place. I do have a problem when people repeatedly do things to make their current family members insecure/unhappy/etc (translate: adding more dogs), and drop the dog off with someone else without caring.

Sorry if I'm not making myself clear here. I'm trying to explain my view..

 

[Doberluv]

I don't have a problem with rehoming a dog to a better place. I do have a problem when people repeatedly do things to make their current family members insecure/unhappy/etc (translate: adding more dogs), and drop the dog off with someone else without caring.

I agree.....to a better place IF the owner absolutely can not make the present home a better place.

Good posts you guys.

 

[sparks19]

Im glad you shared your experience, but from what I read of the OP it did not include a generic situation to what you posted. In fact she would probably agree to it if you werent so tense in your post.



So if a dog continuosly barks and you do nothing to train it to stop, you should get rid of the dog? If the dog dosent house train itself you should rehome it or chain it outside? If a dog needs a serious opperation you should buy a new car and move to another city after rehoming the dog? Its perfectly ok to dump a dog on a country road because you are moving to another state? Is it ok to drop Fido off at the pound because you are moving into a new house?

I know you dont believe that but their are people who think thats an ok way to handle those situations. We can all agree that if things are truely out of controll in your life it isnt fair to make the dog suffer. Its also not ok to make a dog suffer due to the ignorance of an owner who after 6months of not sociallizing or training a dog removes its tags and dumps it on the other side of town.

You are a responsable dog owner, somebody who was not the subject of the OP.

For the rest of you... havent you heard the story about the bear and rabbit? Rabbits make much better TP than dogs.

LOL sorry I was so tense but I don't exactly take kindly to being told I am incapable of reading just because I don't feel the same way.

And while I don't think it is acceptable to have a dog that you are not willing to spend any time with I do realize that this IS a reality. Do I wish people would think things through before getting a dog? Of course I do. I never said I didn't. BUT.... if youa re NOT willing to care for your dog.... then why should that dog suffer through a miserable life with someone who doesn't even want it around?

NO I don't think it is a good thing or OK for people to just get a dog they don't REALLY want to put the work into caring for.... but I do realize this happens and no matter how angry you get peopel are STILL going to be totally irresponsible.... so the best you can do in that case is try to help the dog even if you don't like the person. Bullying the person does not benefit the dog what so ever. But the dog should not be forced to stay in an unloving home that won't provide for it. It's frustrating but telling that person what an idiot they are is only going to make them angry and make them not want to help the dog even more.

But my major problem here is.... I get it that our dogs are our family and YES we should make sacrifices to keep them and do what we can for them.... but sometimes that is just not possible. and SO many times I see people on here that post about their dog being very sick and that they can't afford a major surgery (maybe because they have to choose between that surgery and feeding their kids.... we dont' know.... we just assume it's because they bought a brand new car) and Everyone always says "Well if you can't afford the surgery rehome the dog." But when someone SAYS they can't afford it and they are looking to rehome the dog then they are chastised when those same people would have demanding a rehoming if that person was just looking for advice.

 

[Sunnierhawk0]

This thread is still going? wow.....

I bring a different view to the table on the whole show/breeder rehoming to a pet home. I have done it, and will continue to do it...... I dont know how you expect a serious show exhibitor/breeder to keep EVERY dog that doesnt turn out... you would evetually NOT be able to show anymore/breed anymore because lets face it, more DONT turn out than do. And what in the name of Merlin's beard is wrong with s/n the dog, and finding it a loving family? Thats basically what a breeder does, so are you saying that all BREEDERS should keep everydog? Because under your point of view, oh the dog has lived here and oh you only keep it til 8-10 weeks, and then find it a "new" home.... thats just B.S. And as far as living in a kennel, I do *not* have a kennel, all my dogs live in the house, thus another reason I rehome the dogs that do not turn out, I dont want to start leaving dogs in kennels.... I want them in my house with me.

Im done with this thread, its pointless, and so very judgemental. I hope your put under your same microscope you put others under some day.

 

[jess2416]

Summer... :hail: I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Dekka, there's a difference.. IMO.

Case A:

A breeder who doesn't breed often and loves her dogs.. has one dog who is NOT happy in a busy, multi-dog household and it truly would be better for the dog to be rehomed. Breeder has tried everything to make it work, and isn't breeding more litters (more dogs + less time for her) while she has the dog. Dog still is unhappy. Dog is rehomed for very little to no money with a responsible, good owner who will love it.

Case B:

Breeder who breeds many litters and also has a busy household, with many dogs to take care of. Breeds litter after litter, keeping show/hunting/whatever prospects and if they get older and don't pan out sells them at a normal puppy price or more to pet homes. This breeder may or may not sell to homes that will cherish the dog and be able to provide. Once the dogs are bred out (females old, males old and no more stud fees) or if the dogs aren't worth breeding, they are also sold. Once again, often for more than the usual price of a pup--because they have been trained and titled.

I don't approve of case B. Now, not all are the same. But if you aren't deliberately doing things you know will stress your dogs out and you are putting BREEDING above your current family members... I think you're okay. But there are, as I said, shades of grey here and in between cases as well as cases nothing like I've described.

I don't have a problem with rehoming a dog to a better place. I do have a problem when people repeatedly do things to make their current family members insecure/unhappy/etc (translate: adding more dogs), and drop the dog off with someone else without caring.

Sorry if I'm not making myself clear here. I'm trying to explain my view..

So which one of those would Garnet fall under....

 

[blue]

Wasnt the rant that started this bash fest about those who do not think before they get a dog? Please correct me if I read the OP wrong Nikki.

As for someone who buys a show dog rehoming it because it didnt turn out, to try again with another dog, is a bit vain to me. Note I did not say breeder.

I didnt think when I got the Bluedawg, and now I would do whatever is in my power to make sure he is taken care of. That means rehoming him, Perro Verde, and Erp if I am ever in the position to do otherwise.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Wasnt the rant that started this bash fest about those who do not think before they get a dog? Please correct me if I read the OP wrong Nikki.

Nope, not wrong at all, blue. Thanks for getting it. Maybe you can share your knowledge with other people as well.

 

[Aussie Red]

So which one of those would Garnet fall under....

and the answer is ?????

 

[blue]

Nope, not wrong at all, blue. Thanks for getting it. Maybe you can share your knowledge with other people as well.

You are on the rehome list for BD and PV. I wouldnt put Bella through my evil Mr Kitty, Erp.

 

[Aussie Red]

Blue usually does get it Nicole and as I said I got it too I never saw where you said re-homing is wrong 100% I understood. Keep preaching sister more will hear.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

You are on the rehome list for BD and PV. I wouldnt put Bella through my evil Mr Kitty, Erp.

Aww, really? Or are you just trying to make me feel better? You know I'd take them and love them and spoil them and squish them and...



Thanks, Aus. I love you, too.

 

[Aussie Red]

I am on the re-home list anyone want me ????

 

[Fruit bat]

I am on the re-home list anyone want me ????

When I re-home you , you know where your going.

 

[Buddy'sParents]

When I re-home you , you know where your going.

To come live with her Buddy Boy?

 

[Fruit bat]

To come live with her Buddy Boy?

Nope ... Shady Pines ... We have her resevations.

 

[Aussie Red]

Oh my here we go again
TM owns it and I will run it you are only 18 years behind me I will be waiting for you. Mah ha ha ha

Thank you BP

 

[jess2416]

Aus I thought I was being rehomed to you

*goes to cry*

 

[Buddy'sParents]

Any takers on me?

 

[Aussie Red]

Heck yes you can all come here and let Fruit bat be the care giver. We all will demand the best too.