Dog Whisperer videos online?
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LOL! Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the title of the thread, almost right down to your exact words. ROFLOL.
Sorry Bialinger...no disrespect meant toward you. You didn't know. If you want to learn about dog behavior and training, look for books and things from people like Jean Donaldson, Ian Dunbar, Karen Pryor, Patricia McConnell, Pat Miller and there are many others who truly understand and are educated in canine behavior...know body language and the real culture of domestic dogs. Cesar Milan absolutely does not!
Sorry Bialinger...no disrespect meant toward you. You didn't know. If you want to learn about dog behavior and training, look for books and things from people like Jean Donaldson, Ian Dunbar, Karen Pryor, Patricia McConnell, Pat Miller and there are many others who truly understand and are educated in canine behavior...know body language and the real culture of domestic dogs. Cesar Milan absolutely does not!
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cesar+millan&search=Search
to answer the OP's original question, click on this link there's tons of vid's on him from his show and other stuff.
You know some people do find him to be highly likeable and entertaining regardless if he belongs to the apdt or not or if he had a degree in behaviorism
to answer the OP's original question, click on this link there's tons of vid's on him from his show and other stuff.
You know some people do find him to be highly likeable and entertaining regardless if he belongs to the apdt or not or if he had a degree in behaviorism
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yeah some people do believe him, and some people really love him, and some people will swear by what he does, and some people have adopted his method of training and love what it has done for them and their dogs,
Me thinks it's pretty real to them.
And other people have had very big problems with their dogs and read a click to calm book, but didn't know how to apply anything correctly and got people bit as well. Ir eally don't care to get into it
I believe someone asked a question about dog whisperer videos online, not your opinion of him.
Me thinks it's pretty real to them.
And other people have had very big problems with their dogs and read a click to calm book, but didn't know how to apply anything correctly and got people bit as well. Ir eally don't care to get into it
I believe someone asked a question about dog whisperer videos online, not your opinion of him.
LOL but this is a forum, a place to post opinions...but there is also a reason humane societies, behavouralists etc speak out against his methods (not him, his a very charismatic man who has done well for himself) but as more people get hurt using his methods, and the fact that his methods are statistically less successful than other methods (in the hands of pros...which is what he is, right? comparing apples to apples)
The nice thing is that things like click to calm never hurt the dog. And they try to get people to really look at their dogs behaviour, and body language, vs ignoring them.
The nice thing is that things like click to calm never hurt the dog. And they try to get people to really look at their dogs behaviour, and body language, vs ignoring them.
Here are a couple of links you should read Bialinger.
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://thebark.typepad.com/barking/2006/05/more_on_millan_.html
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://thebark.typepad.com/barking/2006/05/more_on_millan_.html
While I understand the issues that people raise in regards to Cesar, I cannot, for the life of me, understand where
all of these vitrolic attacks stem from. It is very easy to sit here and criticize a dog trainer-- particularly given
the inexactness of it all, but the fact of the matter is he does a lot of good for a lot of dogs. Could he be doing
it in a better way, using more up to date methods? Yes. But that still doesn't change the fact that he has probably
rescued more dogs in a year than any of us will do in a lifetime.
Furthermore, people need to understand the medium in which he communicates. Clicker training, positive reinforcement,
the whole bag.. it's a lot of work and it is a slow process. It doesn't translate well to television, and it never
will. Now I know what is going to be said in response "if you're not willing to do the work, don't get a dog", and again,
I agree-- but the fact of the matter is, people do buy dogs and offer jack all for training and don't educate themselves
worth crap. A television show that offers some advice (and a lot of his advice is sound), is a good thing.
He even addresses some of the criticism levied against him. I was listening to some of his material and when he
discusses the Alpha roll, he mentions that it is controversial and that you, the owner, need to decide if it is a
viable correction (which I did contemplate, and, having weighed the options, came to the conclusion that it was not).
His basic message is pretty sound-- excercise your dog, give it consistent rules and guidelines and then worry about
showering it with affection. That is a sound message, and infinitely better then the majority of pet owners on this
continent who could give a **** about a dogs needs, desires or thought processeses. Is it ideal? Nope-- but again,
we're getting caught up in what should be, rather than the way things are. In the end, and as aforementioned, he has
done a lot of good for a lot of dogs, more then I wager any of us has ever done. While one can find fault in his
methods, his heart is in the right place and in the end, his actual contribution to reasonable pet companions greatly
dwarfs my efforts, and, I assume, anyone else on this forum.
all of these vitrolic attacks stem from. It is very easy to sit here and criticize a dog trainer-- particularly given
the inexactness of it all, but the fact of the matter is he does a lot of good for a lot of dogs. Could he be doing
it in a better way, using more up to date methods? Yes. But that still doesn't change the fact that he has probably
rescued more dogs in a year than any of us will do in a lifetime.
Furthermore, people need to understand the medium in which he communicates. Clicker training, positive reinforcement,
the whole bag.. it's a lot of work and it is a slow process. It doesn't translate well to television, and it never
will. Now I know what is going to be said in response "if you're not willing to do the work, don't get a dog", and again,
I agree-- but the fact of the matter is, people do buy dogs and offer jack all for training and don't educate themselves
worth crap. A television show that offers some advice (and a lot of his advice is sound), is a good thing.
He even addresses some of the criticism levied against him. I was listening to some of his material and when he
discusses the Alpha roll, he mentions that it is controversial and that you, the owner, need to decide if it is a
viable correction (which I did contemplate, and, having weighed the options, came to the conclusion that it was not).
His basic message is pretty sound-- excercise your dog, give it consistent rules and guidelines and then worry about
showering it with affection. That is a sound message, and infinitely better then the majority of pet owners on this
continent who could give a **** about a dogs needs, desires or thought processeses. Is it ideal? Nope-- but again,
we're getting caught up in what should be, rather than the way things are. In the end, and as aforementioned, he has
done a lot of good for a lot of dogs, more then I wager any of us has ever done. While one can find fault in his
methods, his heart is in the right place and in the end, his actual contribution to reasonable pet companions greatly
dwarfs my efforts, and, I assume, anyone else on this forum.
Well, being a newbie I expect to get preached at a little bit 
At any rate, I don't know if I agree with him or not, seeing as I've never seen any of his videos. Most of the people in the dog world that I associate with don't like him, but I still want to see for myself what he has to say. I like to listen to the Leerburg podcasts, but because I agree with hm (I do sometimes, but not mostly), but just because I want a well-rounded view of the philosophies of dog training.
Thanks for the links, though! As I said, I just like to read about/watch/listen to things about dog training.
At any rate, I don't know if I agree with him or not, seeing as I've never seen any of his videos. Most of the people in the dog world that I associate with don't like him, but I still want to see for myself what he has to say. I like to listen to the Leerburg podcasts, but because I agree with hm (I do sometimes, but not mostly), but just because I want a well-rounded view of the philosophies of dog training.
Thanks for the links, though! As I said, I just like to read about/watch/listen to things about dog training.
I watched it a few time, but the stress in the dogs was much to high-and it upset me, all I saw was a man bullying dogs into submission (repression, not training). When he alpha rolled a small dog I turned off the TV in discust. The ideas that people need to excersise their dogs more is great. The whole alpha thing gets people in trouble. I guess the main reason I dislike his show, is that I have to spend a certain amount of time in my classes reducating people about how to interact with their dogs, and to get them to stop trying to intimidate their dogs into submission.
And it is interesting that people have been writing in that the dogs that he has 'fixed' on tv, have had 'relapses' and didnt' stay fixed. Which is one the main risks of suppression, the underlying issues aren't resolved.
But if you like stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you
for some reading..
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/15/CMGPHL9D1N1.DTL
intersting reading with some great links..
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://www.thebark.com/ezine/literature_bookReviews/DogWhisperer.html
And it is interesting that people have been writing in that the dogs that he has 'fixed' on tv, have had 'relapses' and didnt' stay fixed. Which is one the main risks of suppression, the underlying issues aren't resolved.
But if you like stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you
for some reading..
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/15/CMGPHL9D1N1.DTL
intersting reading with some great links..
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://www.thebark.com/ezine/literature_bookReviews/DogWhisperer.html
Hey, I like Cesar. I may not be executing his methods training my own dogs, but that doesn't mean I don't find his show entertaining, and semi-informational. Its a fair sight better than what the folks who own those problem dogs are doing on their own. If they need a professional to come in and say "quit spoiling the dang dog!" then so be it.
LOL no upset... I love controversy..a good debate should be fun for everyone
I disagree Bahamutt. People have gone on with life thinking he has fixed their dogs..but then the dog reverts and bites someone (will see if I can dredge up that link) At least before they KNEW they had a problem.
And really alpha rolling?!? Even the people who did the wolf studies 50+ years ago citing this as something wolves do, have said they were wrong, and it was a voluntary act of submission. And the only time one wolf would flip another was if it wanted to kill it. So no wonder those dogs are terrified of that man... He makes death threats, then when they huddle there in fear, he says "see calm energy" and the people go "wow!" but really the dog is hoping if it stays still enough the crazy aggressive man will leave. How is that good for anyone (other than Milan's pocket books)?
I disagree Bahamutt. People have gone on with life thinking he has fixed their dogs..but then the dog reverts and bites someone (will see if I can dredge up that link) At least before they KNEW they had a problem.
And really alpha rolling?!? Even the people who did the wolf studies 50+ years ago citing this as something wolves do, have said they were wrong, and it was a voluntary act of submission. And the only time one wolf would flip another was if it wanted to kill it. So no wonder those dogs are terrified of that man... He makes death threats, then when they huddle there in fear, he says "see calm energy" and the people go "wow!" but really the dog is hoping if it stays still enough the crazy aggressive man will leave. How is that good for anyone (other than Milan's pocket books)?
I watched it a few time, but the stress in the dogs was much to high-and it upset me, all I saw was a man bullying dogs into submission (repression, not training). When he alpha rolled a small dog I turned off the TV in discust. The ideas that people need to excersise their dogs more is great. The whole alpha thing gets people in trouble. I guess the main reason I dislike his show, is that I have to spend a certain amount of time in my classes reducating people about how to interact with their dogs, and to get them to stop trying to intimidate their dogs into submission.
And it is interesting that people have been writing in that the dogs that he has 'fixed' on tv, have had 'relapses' and didnt' stay fixed. Which is one the main risks of suppression, the underlying issues aren't resolved.
But if you like stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you
for some reading..
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/15/CMGPHL9D1N1.DTL
intersting reading with some great links..
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://www.thebark.com/ezine/literature_bookReviews/DogWhisperer.html
And it is interesting that people have been writing in that the dogs that he has 'fixed' on tv, have had 'relapses' and didnt' stay fixed. Which is one the main risks of suppression, the underlying issues aren't resolved.
But if you like stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you
for some reading..
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/15/CMGPHL9D1N1.DTL
intersting reading with some great links..
http://www.urbandawgs.com/divided_profession.html
http://www.thebark.com/ezine/literature_bookReviews/DogWhisperer.html
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I think you bring up lots of jealous feelings, as I don't agree with really anything he does, its not for me. Other than that he preaches that dogs are dogs, they are not humans, you need to remain calm, and exercise, I don't really agree with him, but that's me. I don't feel the need to attack him. Some feel threatened or jealous, I don't know, but there rage boils up every time his name gets mentioned, and if you like someone or do something outside of what "the other end of the leash" tells you to do, you're an idiot, a bully, uneducated etc, etc, etc.
and yeah this is a forum for opinions, but I thought they were to be respectful, blurting out, that they're wanting links to a "crackpot" and if they "stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you ". Is an insult in my book, i'm pretty sure I"ll get another warning for a personal attack. BTW i'm still waiting for a response as to why I got one the other day.
and yeah this is a forum for opinions, but I thought they were to be respectful, blurting out, that they're wanting links to a "crackpot" and if they "stressed dogs being bullied by a charismatic man... then this show is for you ". Is an insult in my book, i'm pretty sure I"ll get another warning for a personal attack. BTW i'm still waiting for a response as to why I got one the other day.