Dog in alot of pain.

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Unfortunately it is the way of many animal lovers, especially people who have been on forums for a long time and so have learned a lot about animal welfare, to forget that not everyone has the same access to the same resources. It is very common on forums to jump in and bash a person for coming to a fourm - particularly when they say, `I can't afford to take her to the vet'. That's something that makes a lot of people's blood burn, because being able to afford vet care is part of responsible pet ownership. The point being made is, if you don't think you can afford vet care, then perhaps you should reconsider having a pet. It is not saying `you can't have a pet unless you're rich'. However, it is very easy to feel completely ganged up on, and I am sorry that you felt you had to defend yourself and justify your life so much to explain your situation here. It is enough that you love your dog and want to help it. And I am also sorry that the vets in your area don't feel that they can offer payment plans. There have been plenty of times I didn't think we could afford to take our dogs to the vet, however I know that that is all part of owning pets, and we were lucky that our vet accepts payment plans.

To clear it up, nobody ever suggested that you shoot your dog. The comment was made to try to hit home the point that it would be better off to end your dog's suffering than to let it continue to suffer - it was a figurative expression and not one intended literally.

However, the point remains that you sound as though you are unhappy in your life (especially with your grandmother) you love your dog very much and want it to be well looked after, and your grandmother obviously will not allow you to let your dog in the house. At your age unfortunately you have to continue to do as she says, it is not your fault and I'm sure your dog would be in if you could have it in.

That being said, dogs have an incredibly high pain threshold, and rarely show any pain. The fact that your dog was so visibly and audibly suffering means, unfortunately, that the problem is probably more serious than you realise. Spending the money now, to have it checked, is going to cheaper than trying to have a serious problem fixed at a later date, once its got worse. I am not trying to preach to you here, I know you are broke - literally broke - and I know how hard it is.

Could you offer to volunteer a couple of mornings a week at your local vet, if they will look into your dog's condition and see if there is anything serious? I would hope that they are reasonable enough to allow you to do this. In the meantime, do as much research on the internet as you can and learn about dogs in general. Please don't leave a site that can help you so much because of your intial bad experience. People do tend to get angry quickly when they read an initial post, but will all be here to help you if you stick around. I certainly will be, and I know I speak for more people than just myself here. I would hate to see you go and not find out how things are going with your dog.

In the meantime, watch for signs of discomfort and pain, check your dogs urine and faeces, and just approach any vet you can who may be willing to help - I think an offer of volunteering may get you some of the answers that you need.

And most of all, give your dog a big cuddle, and good luck. :)
 

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Well I understand that you love your dog and you're trying to get the money for the vet... but meanwhile your dog is in pain! Even if you take her to the vet, how will you afford the treatment? What is she has heartworm? She will die.

Bottom line, I just don't understand how you can claim to love a pet and let them suffer, or finding it normal not to give them appropriate care (like heartworm preventive).

Being rich or poor has nothing to do with it... It's about being responsible.
 

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Fran27 said:
Bottom line, I just don't understand how you can claim to love a pet and let them suffer, or finding it normal not to give them appropriate care (like heartworm preventive).

Being rich or poor has nothing to do with it... It's about being responsible.
ITA!! Good post.
 

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I'm sorry for the poor dog.... I'm sorry for the OP. May I make a suggestion though ? I don't think I would hire a Gothic, Pagan dressed in black either. Maybe if you dressed differently for the sake of your dog, you'd get a job.
 
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I wonder how rational it is to suggest that these people 'rehome' their dog. If they live in an impoverished rural area, surely that doesn't bode well for a dog surrendered to the local shelter? And how many rescue groups are truly eager to tackle a dog with a major medical problem?


Ryosei_Hime said:
Just because I'm poor does not mean I shouldn't feel the companionship of another animal.
I totally agree with you. And considering that unwanted dogs are being killed by the thousands every day, I think it's not too selfish to take that chance - that chance that the pet you can't afford to do much more than feed and love will be healthy, won't get sick enough to require vet care you simply can't afford. I think some of the extreme emotional reactions here were the products of how the human imagination preys on what 'could be' and, in this case, too many people got spooked by the spectre of their own dog in pain and themselves unable to get medical help for them, and they lashed out.
 

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And how many rescue groups are truly eager to tackle a dog with a major medical problem?
That's almost all *we* ever get :p We sometimes spend thousands of dollars on just one dog. The reason? Because of their owners who either didn't want to pay for vet care or who couldn't.

I can name a few rescues that take a lot of dogs in with medical problems, but I'll spare you. Pull a dog from one of my local shelters and there's more than a 50% it's going to have HW :rolleyes:
 

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Same here .... I fostered 3 retrievers that had heart worms..... very expensive and then we S/Ned.
 
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I could not keep my dog ill because I wanted it to be my companion. I know that is not what you are doing intentionally, but if you think about it, it really is.
If I release my dog she will most certainly die. She would have died had I not taken her in. The person giving them away was planning to take those (and did might I add) that he couldn't find homes for and have them put to sleep immediately because in his logic it was just ending it sooner since most of them were rather ugly (like their mother) and would not have found good homes. I don't think that was right but that's done and past. I just wanted you to know that like casablanca1 said I thought it was better if I could feed her and shelter her and try to keep her healthy as much as I could instead of letting her die with the other puppies. I would have taken the other three if it were possible but I already had three cats and my mother would only let me have one dog. We were barely even eating ourselves at the time. Literally. We had no water, no air conditioner and we were eating out of the convinent store down the street which we walked to because our car didn't work. But as poor as we were we tried our hardest to help all the animals we could when we ran across them. We've always been that way. Some of the animals we even only sheltered until we could find another home for them. So I do rehome animals when I have to but I don't think I'll have to in this case. She's being made an appointment tonight because I have been paid for my tedious manual labor and I think I've got enough for at the very least her check up. If I find out she has something that needs to be treated I will go out and find another job that will hire me and make the money as quickly as I can. In the meantime we are changing her water every couple of hours, with ice and cleaning her bowls incase. We are also bringing her in at night while my grandmother is sleeping and while she is at work. She's only made the sound one other time and that was yesterday so I am trying as hard as I can to get her to the vet because I'm very worried about her. Obviously more so than anyone else, including my brother.

That's almost all *we* ever get We sometimes spend thousands of dollars on just one dog. The reason? Because of their owners who either didn't want to pay for vet care or who couldn't.
They won't here. They won't treat them unless they have to. They only give them shots and treat them when someone decides to adopt them and then they make those people pay for the treatments. If it's going to cost too much they just go ahead and put the dog out of their misery. This isn't a big city. No one has the money for that where I am. Even the ASCPA will only do so much because they have too many abandoned pets and not enough time and money. We aren't like people in big cities. Things don't work that way here. Please try to understand that. It's a completely different situation down here, having a sick pet. We don't have volunteer shelters and groups to help because no one has the money for it.

I don't think I would hire a Gothic, Pagan dressed in black either. Maybe if you dressed differently for the sake of your dog, you'd get a job.
Actually I don't even dress that way all the time anymore. I'm now, through my own psychological treatment, considering I can't get to a psychologists but took it in high school, am making progress with myself especially through my spirituality. If not for my spirituality, especially meditation, I think I would have killed myself by now. I wear blue jeans and black t-shirts now instead of black jeans and skirts. It doesn't matter. Everyone remembers me from when I did and it still frightens them. They have the whole "Wolf in sheep's clothing" syndrome when they look at me. I'm not dangerous to anyone but myself and not even myself anymore but they don't understand that so they're afraid of me. No matter how I dress they'll remember me the way I was. It's useless here. I do dress in my brightest clothing when looking for jobs because I know that it puts people off.
 

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Again, IF someone is willing to foster her and get her vetted/spayed, would you surrender her?

How old is she? Breed?
 
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jdthepug said:
Again, IF someone is willing to foster her and get her vetted/spayed, would you surrender her?

How old is she? Breed?
I think that keeping on about her fostering her dog out isn't helping IMO!!

She has said that she has worked a really hard job to get her to see the vet for an examination, she is also determined to find the money one way or another for any treatment that will be needed.

She is TRYING her hardest to help her dog, and all you keep saying is that she should have it fostered :(
 

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I think that keeping on about her fostering her dog out isn't helping IMO!!

She has said that she has worked a really hard job to get her to see the vet for an examination, she is also determined to find the money one way or another for any treatment that will be needed.

She is TRYING her hardest to help her dog, and all you keep saying is that she should have it fostered :(
How is that not helping? Her dog was in pain, yet she couldn't afford to take her to the vet? She is trying, that is good for her, I applaud her, but what happens the next time the dog needs to see a vet and she doesn't have any money left? Save up again? and if the dog dies because she didn't have enough time?

She lives outside in SC. This dog hasn't seen a vet at all and isn't on prevention, and you think the dog is OK? I'm not huge on helping OS, but if someone is willing to take this dog in, get her spayed and vetted, and into an indoor home.. I think that would be a better situation.
 

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imo, I think she needs to focus on herself and how she can get out of her grandmas, she obviously doesn't like it there.
 
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How is that not helping? Her dog was in pain, yet she couldn't afford to take her to the vet? She is trying, that is good for her, I applaud her, but what happens the next time the dog needs to see a vet and she doesn't have any money left? Save up again? and if the dog dies because she didn't have enough time?

She lives outside in SC. This dog hasn't seen a vet at all and isn't on prevention, and you think the dog is OK? I'm not huge on helping OS, but if someone is willing to take this dog in, get her spayed and vetted, and into an indoor home.. I think that would be a better situation.
I didn't say that the dog is OK!!
I said that she is trying and as she stated if it weren't for her the dog would be dead already.
This is a young woman that wants to help her dog and is doing all she can on a low income to do this.
You making her feel like she should just pack it all in and give up on her dog (which she loves) is not helping her!!

Would you say the same to a Mother about her child if she was at a low time in her life????
 
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jdthepug said:
"Pack it all in"

Oh please :rolleyes:
Well excuse me for not agreeing that the dog should be packed off to a shelter and PTS.......b/c the girl stated that where they live they don't have the finance to actually help dogs!!
 

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Well excuse me for not agreeing that the dog should be packed off to a shelter and PTS.......b/c the girl stated that where they live they don't have the finance to actually help dogs!!
Huh?

I asked if she would consider surrendering her to someone who would get the dog vetted and spayed. Please quote me where I said to surrender her to a shelter and have her PTS...
 
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Huh?

I asked if she would consider surrendering her to someone who would get the dog vetted and spayed. Please quote me where I said to surrender her to a shelter and have her PTS...
The young lady has already said that she doesn't want to rehome the dog......so the shelter is the next best option.

Sorry i am tired and ratty and was misreading you.
 

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