The OP may be very young and this is her parent's responsibility .... hopefully she can communicate with them . The original post being an outside dog bothered me. Too , if $$$ is an issue ,has the dog had the required shots for her well being and heart worm checks and preventatives. I hope she comes back ..... we're here to help , not to bash !!!
Dog in alot of pain.
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She may have passed some sort of kidney or bladder stone. These are a re-occuring thing and will happen again unless she is seen by a vet who can accurately diagnose, medicate and recommend changes in diet to lessen the chances of it happening again.
UTI's are not simple. They are simple to treat, but cause a lot of pain and suffering when left untreated.
UTI's are not simple. They are simple to treat, but cause a lot of pain and suffering when left untreated.
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Alright, look. I'm 3y3l3ss's little sister (he was a dude) and this entire thread sickens me. Though my brother is not I am Pagan so you can rest assured that more than anything, certainly more than you people who don't know her, I treasure my dog. We've had her all her life. She's very, very important and I am extremely offended by most of your remarks. If I was a fouler person I just may have cussed you out over them. And to say we should rehome her? Well let me put it this way. A parent's child is sick. She can't afford to take her to the doctor. So she should just adopt her out? What the hell?
I'm very grateful for those who gave comments that didn't involve her being shot and the rehome suggestion was certainly far better but I'm not going to get rid of her then find out she just had gas. We are currently in the process of finding jobs ourselves to take her for a full check up because we really love our dog. She is not in a bad home and she is well taken care of. This is the first sign of anything bad happening to her ever in all the years we've owned her. I walked outside with her for five hours in the dead of winter one night because my grandparents would not let me bring her in and I was afraid she would freeze to death. I love my dog! There is nothing I would not do for my dog if it were in my power! And if it weren't I'd try anyways! That's why I'm searching for a job now because I know no penny pinching vet (or grandmother) is going to give me the benefit of the doubt for an IOU in this backwards, poverty ridden state! We are all officially under the poverty line down here in SC and the only reason we have this internet access is because my grandmother is a real estate agent. No one can find a normal job here because all the people with college educations are fighting for the burger flipping jobs so we teenagers are flat out of luck! We're trying our very hardest and you people who live in better states who have no idea of our situation should be ashamed for suggesting such things simply because it's taking us a little longer to get the money for the vet!
I'm very grateful for those who gave comments that didn't involve her being shot and the rehome suggestion was certainly far better but I'm not going to get rid of her then find out she just had gas. We are currently in the process of finding jobs ourselves to take her for a full check up because we really love our dog. She is not in a bad home and she is well taken care of. This is the first sign of anything bad happening to her ever in all the years we've owned her. I walked outside with her for five hours in the dead of winter one night because my grandparents would not let me bring her in and I was afraid she would freeze to death. I love my dog! There is nothing I would not do for my dog if it were in my power! And if it weren't I'd try anyways! That's why I'm searching for a job now because I know no penny pinching vet (or grandmother) is going to give me the benefit of the doubt for an IOU in this backwards, poverty ridden state! We are all officially under the poverty line down here in SC and the only reason we have this internet access is because my grandmother is a real estate agent. No one can find a normal job here because all the people with college educations are fighting for the burger flipping jobs so we teenagers are flat out of luck! We're trying our very hardest and you people who live in better states who have no idea of our situation should be ashamed for suggesting such things simply because it's taking us a little longer to get the money for the vet!
I think you should look for a rescue. Perhaps i'm just judgmental kind of person, but someone who can't afford to take their dog to the vet should not own a dog. Love is simply not enough imo.
I'm assuming she's not spayed? Is she UTD on shots, HW prevention, and flea/tick prevention?
btw:
http://www.spayusa.org/
^ I think that's the site I was thinking of.
I'm assuming she's not spayed? Is she UTD on shots, HW prevention, and flea/tick prevention?
btw:
http://www.spayusa.org/
^ I think that's the site I was thinking of.
I don't think that anyone here was doubting that you love your dog. I understand that money may be tight. I understand that you have family members who don't feel it necessary for dogs to have regular vet check ups. I understand that you are angry. With that being said, I don't understand why you think it is wrong to rehome your dog? Unfortunatley at this time in your life you are unable to provide the best home for your pup, you may have the best intentions for her, but intentions aren't good enough. I know how difficult it would be to let her go to another home, especially when you love her so much, but right now she needs to be in a home that can provide medical attention. Without it she may die. Maybe it is just gas, but I suspect that there is an underlying problem that requires professional help. Sometimes life is not fair, and the things that we want the most aren't in the books for us, but you can't allow others (in this case your dog) to suffer because you love her so much. Please don't take this as a personal attack, it isn't. I'm just pleading with you for the sake of your dog to love her enough to let her go. Maybe when the time comes and you are ready both finacially and emotionally adding a dog to your family would be good, but right now doesn't seem to be the best time.
I feel terrible for you all. I assumed he was young and not having enough money for the vet would explain that. That being said I know alot of people in SC aren't well off, I work with a girl who is from there and she always tells me storys. I hope she can hold on till you and your brother find a job and get her the vet care she needs. I also know that they aren't to big on spaying/neutering down south and we end up getting an over flow of pups for adoption right here at shelters in Boston, Mass. from the south. Is she fixed or not? How old is she? Has she ever seen a vet? Heartworm is a big thing down south and where your dog lives outside I hope you treat her for that at least or you may find she already has it. Take Care and I wish you all the luck in finding jobs soon. I'm sorry people here upset you......
Sorry.............But if you really LOVED your dog....you would not let the dog outside crying in pain with no relief. I am from WV another poverty ridden state...and still if a person cannot care for their animals they should not have them. I also believe the same about children, but I guess that is different because the gov. will always step in and pay for poverty strickend children, but dogs the only people they have to rely on is their immediate family...ie.their owners. No one else....so therefore the responsibility falls all on the owners shoulders, and if you cannot fulfill your responsibilities you should give the dog to someone who can/will get medical care or humanely euthanize the dog that is suffering. Being tied outside in howling pain is not a life that any dog should endure.
You and your brother have come to a site of dog lovers........ Why are you surprised by these replys? We are not interested in your circumstances, we are interested in the welfare of your dog! And from the sounds of it.....we are interested more than your family!
You and your brother have come to a site of dog lovers........ Why are you surprised by these replys? We are not interested in your circumstances, we are interested in the welfare of your dog! And from the sounds of it.....we are interested more than your family!
I guess all I have to say is, if you can afford to pay for internet service, you should be able to afford to take the dog to a vet.
And most people who can't afford to take their child to a doctor will look for alternatives as in help from their local town services, in a dog's instance rescue org's /shelters , your local AC who may have some type of fund set
up to help with vet care for those that can't afford it.
While it's a highly debatable topic, the question being, if you can't afford vet care should a person have a pet? I think in alot of instances yes, because most times those people will go that extra mile to try and find help for their animals. To allow a dog to suffer tho, is inhumane and even tho she's feeling fine today, it may be some underlying problem that hasn't reared it's full ugly head yet. For her sake I hope it's not.
Diane
And most people who can't afford to take their child to a doctor will look for alternatives as in help from their local town services, in a dog's instance rescue org's /shelters , your local AC who may have some type of fund set
up to help with vet care for those that can't afford it.
While it's a highly debatable topic, the question being, if you can't afford vet care should a person have a pet? I think in alot of instances yes, because most times those people will go that extra mile to try and find help for their animals. To allow a dog to suffer tho, is inhumane and even tho she's feeling fine today, it may be some underlying problem that hasn't reared it's full ugly head yet. For her sake I hope it's not.
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I'm not saying I wouldn't rehome her if I found out she had something I couldn't afford to treat. I'm saying I don't want to rehome her unless I know for absolute certain that it's necessary. I understand you have an interest in my dog's well being. You all seem to be very caring for animals in your way so I'm not trying to be offending to you myself. I'm very relieved there are people who care so much for a dog that isn't their own. I simply want a chance to try to care for my dog before resorting to desperate measures. She is not spayed nor has she ever seen a vet because as it is my mother had no proper education and no one to fend for her or us but herself. So we've always been poor when we aren't living with my grandmother. I'm awaiting the return of my GED scores so that I may get the job to help but until then my brother and I both do odd jobs one of which we had today and are returning to tomorrow. In the 90-100 degree heat no less. We try our hardest and we want her to have a check up even if it was gas.
No one made you the judge of who can and can't have dogs. Just because I'm poor does not mean I shouldn't feel the companionship of another animal. I resent that fully. Judgemental as you may be I still take resentment. That's being a little bit selfish if you ask me. So far we've done pretty good with our animals. We've never lived without a pet and the only thing I can remember them dieing from was being run over with the exception of one cat and one dog, one of which who died of cancer and the other of which we put to sleep because he had a skin desease that he was suffering from for years.
It may interest you to know we aren't that cruel. We brought her in until she seemed fine enough to go back outside. We also, assuming it was UTI, gave her ice water every couple of hours to try to help it clear up. I took her water all day and then she seemed fine. So, mayhaps, UTI was what she had. And mayhaps she's better now because we acted quickly enough. If it happens again I will literally steal the money from my grandmother then pay it back later if I have to. I simply found this thread offensiv for 1. the shooting the dog idea and 2. the "you shouldn't own a dog if you aren't rich" idea. That deeply offends me. Otherwise I'm glad to have gotten so many responses in concerns for the dog herself. If she ends up with something serious I will come back and let you all know what happened but for the moment being I can't tell you anything else. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go sleep so I'll have energy for work tomorrow. XP Lifting very large boxes (that feel like they're full of bricks) for hours in the burning heat again.
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My well off penny pinching cold ass grandmother pays the internet for your information. Currently we are so poor we have no residence hence the reason we live with the bitch.
No one made you the judge of who can and can't have dogs. Just because I'm poor does not mean I shouldn't feel the companionship of another animal. I resent that fully. Judgemental as you may be I still take resentment. That's being a little bit selfish if you ask me. So far we've done pretty good with our animals. We've never lived without a pet and the only thing I can remember them dieing from was being run over with the exception of one cat and one dog, one of which who died of cancer and the other of which we put to sleep because he had a skin desease that he was suffering from for years.
It may interest you to know we aren't that cruel. We brought her in until she seemed fine enough to go back outside. We also, assuming it was UTI, gave her ice water every couple of hours to try to help it clear up. I took her water all day and then she seemed fine. So, mayhaps, UTI was what she had. And mayhaps she's better now because we acted quickly enough. If it happens again I will literally steal the money from my grandmother then pay it back later if I have to. I simply found this thread offensiv for 1. the shooting the dog idea and 2. the "you shouldn't own a dog if you aren't rich" idea. That deeply offends me. Otherwise I'm glad to have gotten so many responses in concerns for the dog herself. If she ends up with something serious I will come back and let you all know what happened but for the moment being I can't tell you anything else. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go sleep so I'll have energy for work tomorrow. XP Lifting very large boxes (that feel like they're full of bricks) for hours in the burning heat again.
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My well off penny pinching cold ass grandmother pays the internet for your information. Currently we are so poor we have no residence hence the reason we live with the bitch.
But you CAN'T afford to treat her, you didn't even take her to the vet!! If you don't have the $$ for an exam, how will you have the money for treatment? 
Selfish? I think being selfish is making a dog live outside, without vet care, in pain because you want "it's companionship."
Skin disease? What did the vet say? I'm curious, did you change his food? Supplement? Did the vet give meds?
Is it HER dog?
Selfish? I think being selfish is making a dog live outside, without vet care, in pain because you want "it's companionship."
Skin disease? What did the vet say? I'm curious, did you change his food? Supplement? Did the vet give meds?
Is it HER dog?
QUOTE:My well off penny pinching cold ass grandmother pays the internet for your information. Currently we are so poor we have no residence hence the reason we live with the bitch.
LOL! I'm sorry but you made me laugh because I can relate to people like that. That being said, you seem by your typing that you are very well spoken and I give you credit for going for your GED. I hate to tell you this but your dog probably has heartworm I would be about 99% certain and that is going to kill her and is exspensive to treat. She has never been to the vet and has lived outside so that equals heartworms unfortunately. How old are you and your brother 17 - 18 yrs? Why doesn't your grandmother feel compassion for the animal to help her? I guess she is cold! Hun, your dog is suffering please bring her to the shelter and give her the care she needs. Heartworm is so bad down south and she will die very young without proper treatment. Please do something for her NOW!
LOL! I'm sorry but you made me laugh because I can relate to people like that. That being said, you seem by your typing that you are very well spoken and I give you credit for going for your GED. I hate to tell you this but your dog probably has heartworm I would be about 99% certain and that is going to kill her and is exspensive to treat. She has never been to the vet and has lived outside so that equals heartworms unfortunately. How old are you and your brother 17 - 18 yrs? Why doesn't your grandmother feel compassion for the animal to help her? I guess she is cold! Hun, your dog is suffering please bring her to the shelter and give her the care she needs. Heartworm is so bad down south and she will die very young without proper treatment. Please do something for her NOW!
Obviously you came to Chaz because you care for your dog. What are we to do ?? Advice and support is all we can do ! I am 72 years old and on very limited SS... I can manage house payments , gas and electricity . My next priority is my dog. Please , do your best for your dog. I do all annual shots and check ups ... plus heart worm preventives .... otherwise I know a positive heartworm would cost me about $800 or more. An ounce of prevention is worth a pond of cure . How is your dog acting now ??? I hope it was only passing stones , but you do need veting.
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The dog needs a vet. That's the bottom line. If you have kept her outside (for however many years) and you've never taken her to the vet (for even the most basic shots and heartworm preventative) what have you done for her? The dog is in pain, plain and simple. If a dog is in pain you help it, not ignore it or try to treat it yourself and hope it's gone. What kind of person lets a dog suffer for years with an undiagnosed skin condition? Did that one go to the vet? Did the one with cancer go to the vet? Have you ever really taken care of your dogs? It doesn't sound like it.
Where in S.C. do you live? I lived in the Mullins/Conway area for awhile and there was no shortage of jobs for the young or old. Columbia (and any other major city) has plenty of jobs around. Look in the newspapers, at the employment office, online, at restauratns/fast food joints/local stores. The state of S.C. has over 18,000 jobs available. We plan on moving back as soon as possible simply because of all of the jobs. Try living where I'm at in Missouri. I have a H.S. diploma, college education and a Class A CDL with all endorsements...but STILL can't find a job (go figure). Mow someone's lawn, pick vegetables or work for a local nursery (plants)...babysit. There are any number of things you could do to earn enough money for a vet exam (usually $25 min).
If you can not afford your dog, then you need to find her a better home. Not because you're "poor" but because the dog deserves better. I'm not saying you don't love your dog, but you can't properly care for her.
Where in S.C. do you live? I lived in the Mullins/Conway area for awhile and there was no shortage of jobs for the young or old. Columbia (and any other major city) has plenty of jobs around. Look in the newspapers, at the employment office, online, at restauratns/fast food joints/local stores. The state of S.C. has over 18,000 jobs available. We plan on moving back as soon as possible simply because of all of the jobs. Try living where I'm at in Missouri. I have a H.S. diploma, college education and a Class A CDL with all endorsements...but STILL can't find a job (go figure). Mow someone's lawn, pick vegetables or work for a local nursery (plants)...babysit. There are any number of things you could do to earn enough money for a vet exam (usually $25 min).
If you can not afford your dog, then you need to find her a better home. Not because you're "poor" but because the dog deserves better. I'm not saying you don't love your dog, but you can't properly care for her.
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The dog with the skin desease was not mine but my grandmother's and I was in elementary school when she had it. I somehow get the feeling half of you aren't reading all of my posts. And for the last g-d time I AM TAKING HER TO THE VET WHEN I GET THE G-D MONEY! >.< I'm trying my hardest here and who are you to judge?
I live in Greenwood. It is extremely small. Almost the smallest. I'm only 19 and there are no jobs where I am. My mother can not get a job and she has been to medical school recently to become a medical assistant. Like I said, people with actual college degrees are having to fight over burger flipping jobs. It's hard when you only have limited days to go look for a job because your mother spends all day in her run down 900 dollar piece of crap taking her fiansce back and forth to work, classes required to get his liscence back and two AA meetings a day. Where you are it may be fine but where I am you can not get jobs that easily. We almost have the money to take her for the check up if we don't die ourselves from heat stroke tomorrow. I can not babysit because everyone virtually knows everyone here and I wear black, was on suicide watch once and everyone thinks I'll go nuts and kill their kids. No one will give me a job. I'm gothic, pansexual and pagan. That's like having a deadly desease here. The people I'm currently doing an odd job for just moved down here from NY otherwise I wouldn't have this one.
As you can see we DO TAKE CARE OF OUR DOG! We are the only ones aside from my mother who care enough to take care of her. She was an inside dog before we had to move her to my grandmother's. Like I said, she's cold-hearted and cares for no one, animal or human, but herself. And I am not ignoring my dog. I'm the only one who pays it attention aside from my brother.
And you offend every single inch of me jdthepug. You and several others in this thread seem to have an uppity air to yourselves. As though you own the world and it has to run according to your opinions. Well, you know what? Screw you. Nothing you say can change the fact that it is my dog, I love it, I AM caring for it as fast as I possible can, nearly killing myself in the process and you don't mean a **** thing to me. So...yeah. Just screw you and half the other people in this thread. Of course those who had KIND things to say or HELPFUL things to say I do thank you. But those rattling off their own opinions as to whether or not I deserve to have my dog, those who don't know me, my situation or the dog herself can just shut up now because I have no use for your posts. They do not serve me and this is not a debate. My brother only wanted to know what else it could posisbly be besides UTI or gas so that we could look those things up and try to help her. I do greatly thank those who mentioned the heartworm because I'll bring that up when I take her to the VET for crying out loud. I was already planning to take her, I'm making the money to take her and I'm trying to do it as quickly as possible, have been since it happened. I'm not some cruel bitch who mistreats my dog and f*** all of you who are trying to make me out to be.
First I would like to thank you for the manner in which you stated your advice and opinions. I can tell by your (and some of the other's) typing that you actually care in a genuine and benign fashion. And I would take her to a shelter if I knew she would be treated there. But she wouldn't. I know a girl down the road and a boy across the street who work at two of the animal shelters here and if you take a dog there and leave it there's a 99.9% chance they'll put it to sleep. If no one gets it within the first couple of weeks they put it to sleep. I am not kidding. These people told me themselves and one of them's pretty high up in the chain of command. The woman is. I'd rather try to save her first before resorting to having her put to sleep.
I live in Greenwood. It is extremely small. Almost the smallest. I'm only 19 and there are no jobs where I am. My mother can not get a job and she has been to medical school recently to become a medical assistant. Like I said, people with actual college degrees are having to fight over burger flipping jobs. It's hard when you only have limited days to go look for a job because your mother spends all day in her run down 900 dollar piece of crap taking her fiansce back and forth to work, classes required to get his liscence back and two AA meetings a day. Where you are it may be fine but where I am you can not get jobs that easily. We almost have the money to take her for the check up if we don't die ourselves from heat stroke tomorrow. I can not babysit because everyone virtually knows everyone here and I wear black, was on suicide watch once and everyone thinks I'll go nuts and kill their kids. No one will give me a job. I'm gothic, pansexual and pagan. That's like having a deadly desease here. The people I'm currently doing an odd job for just moved down here from NY otherwise I wouldn't have this one.
As you can see we DO TAKE CARE OF OUR DOG! We are the only ones aside from my mother who care enough to take care of her. She was an inside dog before we had to move her to my grandmother's. Like I said, she's cold-hearted and cares for no one, animal or human, but herself. And I am not ignoring my dog. I'm the only one who pays it attention aside from my brother.
And you offend every single inch of me jdthepug. You and several others in this thread seem to have an uppity air to yourselves. As though you own the world and it has to run according to your opinions. Well, you know what? Screw you. Nothing you say can change the fact that it is my dog, I love it, I AM caring for it as fast as I possible can, nearly killing myself in the process and you don't mean a **** thing to me. So...yeah. Just screw you and half the other people in this thread. Of course those who had KIND things to say or HELPFUL things to say I do thank you. But those rattling off their own opinions as to whether or not I deserve to have my dog, those who don't know me, my situation or the dog herself can just shut up now because I have no use for your posts. They do not serve me and this is not a debate. My brother only wanted to know what else it could posisbly be besides UTI or gas so that we could look those things up and try to help her. I do greatly thank those who mentioned the heartworm because I'll bring that up when I take her to the VET for crying out loud. I was already planning to take her, I'm making the money to take her and I'm trying to do it as quickly as possible, have been since it happened. I'm not some cruel bitch who mistreats my dog and f*** all of you who are trying to make me out to be.
First I would like to thank you for the manner in which you stated your advice and opinions. I can tell by your (and some of the other's) typing that you actually care in a genuine and benign fashion. And I would take her to a shelter if I knew she would be treated there. But she wouldn't. I know a girl down the road and a boy across the street who work at two of the animal shelters here and if you take a dog there and leave it there's a 99.9% chance they'll put it to sleep. If no one gets it within the first couple of weeks they put it to sleep. I am not kidding. These people told me themselves and one of them's pretty high up in the chain of command. The woman is. I'd rather try to save her first before resorting to having her put to sleep.
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I think a few people here need to calm down a little.
The OP's sister has explained their situation (not that it is really any of our business).
She is quite obviously upset and has come here for help.
We can't help you........if we could we would.
But if your dog does have a UTI then it will NOT clear up without treatment.......it just isn't possible.
I hope that you can find a way to get the treatment she needs.
If your saying that you would literally steal from your Grandmother........then do it NOW before the dog gets worse and the treatment will cost more!!
I hope everything turns out ok for you.
The OP's sister has explained their situation (not that it is really any of our business).
She is quite obviously upset and has come here for help.
We can't help you........if we could we would.
But if your dog does have a UTI then it will NOT clear up without treatment.......it just isn't possible.
I hope that you can find a way to get the treatment she needs.
If your saying that you would literally steal from your Grandmother........then do it NOW before the dog gets worse and the treatment will cost more!!
I hope everything turns out ok for you.
Caren, I agree with you on how people are acting in this thread! I can't believe how people come on Chaz for HELP and some of you are quick to judge and be mean. How are we supposed to help people being this way. Thats why half the people who come here for legit help end up leaving and never return. I feel for this girl and her brother, and most of all the dog. She and he obviously live with the grandmother because of problems and financial difficulty. Lets helps her and be nice about it. I get angry to because I LOVE animals but getting angry is not going to help the owner or the dog. If it were me I would take the dog to the ASPCA just to try and see what they can do. In New York city there is alot of low income people (inner city) who can get free vet care and free S/N. Is there anything like that where you live? Have you checked? Maybe you can volunteer at the local vet or ASPCA in return for free care. I hope something can be done soon.
I love my dogs more than anything in my life right now, they are my children. But let me tell you something, if my dog was sick I would move heaven and earth to get them treated, if I could not, I would surrender them. But that is just me, I could not keep my dog ill because I wanted it to be my companion. I know that is not what you are doing intentionally, but if you think about it, it really is.
I have been eating pasta and tomatoe sause for the last few weeks because I had to pay for a dental for my little one. You do your best, when it is not good enough, you do what is right.
I have been eating pasta and tomatoe sause for the last few weeks because I had to pay for a dental for my little one. You do your best, when it is not good enough, you do what is right.