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I believe a dog's temperament depends on it's breed, it's breeding, it's training, it's owners, and how it is raised. Pit bulls have a tendency to be dog aggressive. I would not trust a pit alone with another dog because of that. But just because they are dog aggressive doesn't mean they aren't great dogs. The pits I have met, the pits I have seen, the pits that I see on TV are all usually wonderful, sweet, loving dogs.
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I was thinking that when I was posting, but oh well. I do think pits are great dogs - the ones I have met were absolute sweethearts and I love the breed - but they do have a tendency to be dog aggressive and I would never trust one alone with another dog unsupervised. They were carefully bred to be aggressive towards other dogs and gentle towards humans. You can't completely breed that out of them, IMO.
Pitbulls are usually Dog Dominant...not aggressive. If not socialized correctly, then yes it can often be expressed as aggression. But they are not aggressive by nature. The guy who lives next to me has a pitbull who is very dominant but besides a lot of humping by his dog (Elwood) he never expresses it aggressively, He just plays rough (not mouthy).
This reponse is not an attack as some have predicted
, it sounds like you have the right idea just the wrong vernacular.
This reponse is not an attack as some have predicted
, it sounds like you have the right idea just the wrong vernacular.
What? Pit bulls are dog-aggressive... it's how they were bred. They were bred to be nice to humans, and aggressive towards animals. Not just by dog fighting but they were also bred to take down large game such as boars.
Gaddy's absolutely right, you should never leave a pitbull unattended with another dog. I heard about someone who left his Boxer alone with his Pit bull and they came back home to his Boxer dead.
Gaddy's absolutely right, you should never leave a pitbull unattended with another dog. I heard about someone who left his Boxer alone with his Pit bull and they came back home to his Boxer dead.
I leave my to Amstaffs a lone with my moms Cockapoo every weekend (for several years) and have left them with my aunts Shitzu and with my sisters Aussies and My brothers Lab/Collie mix and my friends pitbull and Pomerian (sp?) and Never has there been a fight or any problem. Although we do suspect Athena of tearing the head off a stuffed bear....but we can't be sure it was her.
They are Dominant by nature, not aggressive. They learn to respond aggressively if rewarded to do so. Dominance is a trait, Aggression is a response.
Also....How do you know the boxer didn't start the fight?
They are Dominant by nature, not aggressive. They learn to respond aggressively if rewarded to do so. Dominance is a trait, Aggression is a response.
Also....How do you know the boxer didn't start the fight?
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oriondw said:
Get ready for pit crowed to get at your throat for saying that their breed is dog agressive
I for one, am part of the pit bull "crowed"...and pit bulls can be dog aggressive, yes.
Do you have a problem with the "pit crowed"...because it seems like you're always jumping down our throats for trying to educate the public about the breed.
Is there a problem you'd like to share with the rest of the world?
I havent read thru all the post here but I'd like to say something.
Last week we had a customer here. He seen Gracie and said "oh a Chow, man they are mean!They will bite" he went on to say his neighbor has a Chow, the dogs owner's mother is home alone most of the time so this dog was "trained to be a guard dog". The dog was trained to make sure no one went near his mother. Then a few days ago a guy was here, again we listened to how mean Chows are. He went on to say they use to have 2 Chows and they trained them to be guard dogs. This same guy has a great dane that I will never go near. A couple of nights ago a friend and his wife stopped to visit. They had never met Gracie before. He was scared to death of Gracie. He said Chows are mean. Again he told of people he knew who had trained their Chows to be a guard dog. Gracie tried to get close to him but he was scared. His wife though was great with Gracie. Anyway what I'm getting at is these people who are training their dogs to be a certain way are the reason so many people are scared of certain breeds or believe certain way about them. I really believe its all in the way the dogs are raised. Doesnt matter the breed. They need socialized with people and other animals.
Last week we had a customer here. He seen Gracie and said "oh a Chow, man they are mean!They will bite" he went on to say his neighbor has a Chow, the dogs owner's mother is home alone most of the time so this dog was "trained to be a guard dog". The dog was trained to make sure no one went near his mother. Then a few days ago a guy was here, again we listened to how mean Chows are. He went on to say they use to have 2 Chows and they trained them to be guard dogs. This same guy has a great dane that I will never go near. A couple of nights ago a friend and his wife stopped to visit. They had never met Gracie before. He was scared to death of Gracie. He said Chows are mean. Again he told of people he knew who had trained their Chows to be a guard dog. Gracie tried to get close to him but he was scared. His wife though was great with Gracie. Anyway what I'm getting at is these people who are training their dogs to be a certain way are the reason so many people are scared of certain breeds or believe certain way about them. I really believe its all in the way the dogs are raised. Doesnt matter the breed. They need socialized with people and other animals.
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I have no problem with pits - as I have said before, I love pit bulls and the ones I have met were absolute sweethearts that sat there and kissed me - but they are dog-aggressive and I would never leave them alone with another dog. But just because they are dog-aggressive doesn't mean they aren't a great breed.
The majority of pit bulls are yes dog - aggressive... but not all. I have met more than a few pits who were dog-friendly, and mine is friendly with other dogs as long as the other dog doesn't rush him or me. There are always exceptions to every rule when it comes to living animals.... that's the only definate thing when it comes to nature.
mojozen said:
The majority of pit bulls are yes dog - aggressive... but not all. I have met more than a few pits who were dog-friendly, and mine is friendly with other dogs as long as the other dog doesn't rush him or me. There are always exceptions to every rule when it comes to living animals.... that's the only definate thing when it comes to nature.
I have a lot of respect for law enforcement, and many friends who are in law enforcement. This thread is a discussion about dog bites. and that is something that should be able to be civilly discussed on any dog board so that all may come away knowing more.
I do not think that taking a broad brush and smearing attorneys will help this conversation, especially for those people who both love dogs and also happen to be in the legal field.
In fact, I believe that action through attorneys who love dogs as far as fighting unfair or unconstitutional statutes as well as education for everyone will go a far way toward keeping our rights to own dogs intact.
If we divide ourselves we will be easy pickings for those who would outlaw many dogs altogether.
I do not think that taking a broad brush and smearing attorneys will help this conversation, especially for those people who both love dogs and also happen to be in the legal field.
In fact, I believe that action through attorneys who love dogs as far as fighting unfair or unconstitutional statutes as well as education for everyone will go a far way toward keeping our rights to own dogs intact.
If we divide ourselves we will be easy pickings for those who would outlaw many dogs altogether.
R
I've been associated with Rottweilers since 1988.
This is another breed that in many countries, including the country of origin, where they are bred, if they can not face a human adversary with complete courage, and bite to defend themselves or their handler, they are not used for breeding.
Both my adult bitches are well versed in the bad guy and what to do if the need arises.
They are both also quite sociable, friendly, touchable and approachable by any person in a normal situation.
Should anyone threaten me, or invade my property when I am not present, they most CERTAINLY would defend me and bite if necessary, and I would expect them to. It's MY JOB to protect the dog from doing what it is genetically designed to do. It's MY JOB to socialize and train and confine that dog so that he understands what is and is not a threat, and so that he is always under my control, for his/her own safety.
You would never feel uncomfortable around my dogs in my home, or on the street, or at any dog show. They are just like any other dog, except if a threat arises, they have been well trained in what to do, and more importantly, what NOT to do.
Any fool can teach a dog to bite. It's teaching them when NOT to bite where the training comes in.
This is another breed that in many countries, including the country of origin, where they are bred, if they can not face a human adversary with complete courage, and bite to defend themselves or their handler, they are not used for breeding.
Both my adult bitches are well versed in the bad guy and what to do if the need arises.
They are both also quite sociable, friendly, touchable and approachable by any person in a normal situation.
Should anyone threaten me, or invade my property when I am not present, they most CERTAINLY would defend me and bite if necessary, and I would expect them to. It's MY JOB to protect the dog from doing what it is genetically designed to do. It's MY JOB to socialize and train and confine that dog so that he understands what is and is not a threat, and so that he is always under my control, for his/her own safety.
You would never feel uncomfortable around my dogs in my home, or on the street, or at any dog show. They are just like any other dog, except if a threat arises, they have been well trained in what to do, and more importantly, what NOT to do.
Any fool can teach a dog to bite. It's teaching them when NOT to bite where the training comes in.
pitbulliest said:
What kind of breed do you have?
Can you further explain this point? It sounds kinda disturbing...
Can you further explain this point? It sounds kinda disturbing...
If the dog has soft mouth or does not bite an attacker it is considered poorly bred and should not be used for breeding.
Dog should do it naturally without any training. Dog should be reserved and calm but should bite in a proper way when it is threatened.
These dogs are guard dogs btw, thats their role and thats what they did for thousands of years.
RedyreRottweilers said:
They are just like any other dog, except if a threat arises, they have been well trained in what to do, and more importantly, what NOT to do.
Any fool can teach a dog to bite. It's teaching them when NOT to bite where the training comes in.
Any fool can teach a dog to bite. It's teaching them when NOT to bite where the training comes in.
Perfect quote!
Especially the last sentence.
Well, I am sorry if you thought I made a "broad brush" to smear attorneys, but there has been many "broad brush smears" against law enforcement officers. And really..........in my experience they are more honest and willing to do all the dirty work. There are many on this forum that always put down cops/law enforcement. I really get so sick of defending my family's well earned source of income, that it gets out of hand. I have personally had the contact with many lawyers that are nothing more than big fat slugs. Oh well, but I have seen first hand who does what, and then they only get condemend for being the active person in combating the shitheads in the streets. What do you want? All or Nothing?
I can't even comment anymore, or I'd probably just blow up, and I don't want that.
And this thread has been blown to more than just a dog bite!
Julie.