Doberman Dies due to the irresponsibility of the owner

[otch1]

P.S. Last week when I asked about your Dobies breeding, you clearly stated she is a Kimbertal bitch, the only dobie you own and no you don't breed her. You've just proven the point I was trying to make. Please consider what I've said and my intentions when posting this. It is not because I dislike you.

 

[J's crew]

P.S. Last week when I asked about your Dobies breeding, you clearly stated she is a Kimbertal bitch, the only dobie you own and no you don't breed her. You've just proven the point I was trying to make. Please consider what I've said and my intentions when posting this. It is not because I dislike you.

I have to agree. I read the same post myself.

 

[dr2little]

I have to agree. I read the same post myself.

I noticed that too..along with the countless other discrepancies in your posts cindr.

 

[lakotasong]

I agree that some posts haven't seemed to add up and it looks a bit fishy.

But in any case, I wouldn't sell the people in the original post another dog. I'd contact local rescues/shelters and have them added to the DNA list. And try doing home checks before you place more dogs. I always do home checks before a single puppy or adult dog leave my property. And I never place to a home without a fence that is attached to a house.

 

[cindr]

I have to agree. I read the same post myself.

Well I will say this and I am done with the whole mess! For some reason you want the young kids to see that this is a nice forum to come to and learn! Hum then on the other hand its about bashing some one else. I really have better things to do than waste my time on this. So what I did at one time own a Kimbertal female who cares. The female I have here is out of the Hyott breeding. Again a puppy mill company. But I will say this it is so far back on her pedigree, that it should not matter.

What should matter is this;

1) Thryoid tested
2) Heart cleared and tested
3) Von Willabrands bleeding disorder tested
4) Hips elbows shoulders eyes ears tested
5) Temperment tested
6) Trained

And the list goes on and on. So no I am not the best candidate to sit back and waste my time on stuff like this. Tell me have you ever made a mistake?
I beleive we all have. No worries here as long as I make sure that everything is done properly, and the dogs themselves are truly cared for, what is the harm? Tell me!

 

[planet molosser]

"Tested" means a result has to be given i get a bit neavous when i see the term tested when no test result is given.

When people call me and say the other breeder TESTS the dogs I ask so what is the SCORE the RESULT of the said test?
You said clear when it came to heart so is she Clear of all the other tests you did?

I equate it to if you met someone knew and you both had a HIV test would you want to know the test result or that they were just tested?

Then they go ahhhh i see.

Also Temperament tested can mean much
A CGC is a Temperament test - yet the TT is (C) by the American Temperament test society http://www.atts.org

So sorry it is a bit vague for a newbie to Dobes...

 

[SizzleDog]

I also saw cindr state that her bitch was Kimbertal, not Hoytt. In fact, here is the direct link to that post:

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showpost.php?p=479655&postcount=8

 

[RD]

Sorry, Cindr . . . I have nothing against you personally, I just find it difficult to believe a single word you say. Not because I don't like you, but because somewhere on this forum or another, there is a post to contradict what you say. You stated that you have a Kimbertal bitch. I remember that post. Why try to backtrack and deny it when you know you said it? Surely as a breeder, you are not getting your own dogs' lineage mixed up.

Why have you been lying so much about little things like that? What's the point?

 

[SizzleDog]

I have a Kimbertal bred female. She is 3 yrs old.

Note the "have" and the "is". Those two word denote present-tense.

 

[RD]

Or are you going to say she is a rescue/friend's pup/etc too?

 

[cindr]

Sorry, Cindr . . . I have nothing against you personally, I just find it difficult to believe a single word you say because somewhere on this forum or another, there is a post to contradict that. You stated that you have a Kimbertal bitch. I remember that post. Why try to backtrack and deny it when you KNOW you said it?

Why have you been lying so much about little things like that? What's the point?

Give me a break, yes I did at one time own a KIMBERTAL FEMALE! But has the term SOLD ever crossed your minds. That does happen every once in a while. Just give it up! There has been no LIES HERE TODAY OR EVER> Have a great and glorious day. Bye

 

[RD]

Now she's been sold? In such a short period of time? I know breeders with 20-some dogs that sell dogs less often than you do. You said, a couple weeks ago, that you have 4 dogs. How many do you have now?


*smh*

 

[SizzleDog]

"at one time" = ten days ago?

I'm sorry, I'm just very confused.

 

[dr2little]

Give me a break, yes I did at one time own a KIMBERTAL FEMALE! But has the term SOLD ever crossed your minds. That does happen every once in a while. Just give it up! There has been no LIES HERE TODAY OR EVER> Have a great and glorious day. Bye

Now hold on just a minute cindr, RD makes a very valid point. YOU are the one who keeps back peddling and retracting...correcting..trying to "clarify".

I've known who you are, and who you ARE NOT, for quite some time now. Members on this forum don't like to be deceived and I have kept quiet long enough. How many times do you have to be called on your "accidental half truths" before you realize that it's not going to fly here. Sorry, but I for one am done tip toeing around.

 

[Nick`o`shea]

They don`t deserve the love of another Dobie, nor did they recognise the Dobe they had obviously needed them. Why run off, ? for human or other dog company either way they did not supply the Dobes basic needs.........say NO..........:yikes:

 

[chickenlittle]

Now hold on just a minute cindr, RD makes a very valid point. YOU are the one who keeps back peddling and retracting...correcting..trying to "clarify".

I've known who you are, and who you ARE NOT, for quite some time now. Members on this forum don't like to be deceived and I have kept quiet long enough. How many times do you have to be called on your "accidental half truths" before you realize that it's not going to fly here. Sorry, but I for one am done tip toeing around.

So who is Cindr? I mean if she is not who she says she is?
Did she not say her name was Deb Meloche?

Ok I said I had met her and seen her dogs...I had not. Have talked with her on the phone but never actually met face to face. So what?

This is the interenet and how many people here are who you think they are?

Some you could be little kids and others old men for all we know?

As far as the topic, don't sell her another dobe pup. She couldn't care for the first, she certainly won't care for the second.

 

[ToscasMom]

This is the interenet and how many people here are who you think they are?

I'm not sure what this means but this is a dog forum not Eharmony. I bet quite a few people who post here would join me in saying that would be more than happy to confirm to the board owners that they are who they say they are, and their dogs are who they are. Why would anyone waste the time and energy to do anything else? That would be like me finding pictures of a Collie on the net and pretending it was my Collie, and then making up stories to perpetuate it. That would require someone who has a lot of time on her hands and a not too stable mind as far as I'm concerned. I kind of figure if you are going to pretend at least pretend to be a brain surgeon. Laughing here.

 

[RD]

Chickenlittle, what's the point of lying on a dog forum? This isn't a contest to see who is the sneakiest, it's a place to talk about dogs. Lol, like Toscasmom said, if you're going to pretend, why not pretend you're a brain surgeon rather than a dog owner?

I like to pretend too, it's why I do roleplay on occasion and write short stories. But I don't have TIME to create a whole new "identity" on a dog forum, and spend precious hours out of every day decieving people I've never met. And I'm just a high school student! I would think that a professional dog trainer, breeder and groomer would have FAR less time on her hands than a kid like me. Yet she's racked up hundreds of posts already?

I just don't get the point. I joined here to learn, to get advice and to share what little I know about dogs. I've happened to make some friends along the way, and I've gotten more involved with the "people" aspect of the forum. Why would anyone with a stable mind join a dog forum just so they can make up a bunch of BS? Does cindr get some kick out of successfully lying to people?

It goes around and around, and still doesn't add up.

 

[Gillian]

I'm not sure what this means but this is a dog forum not Eharmony. I bet quite a few people who post here would join me in saying that would be more than happy to confirm to the board owners that they are who they say they are, and their dogs are who they are. Why would anyone waste the time and energy to do anything else? That would be like me finding pictures of a Collie on the net and pretending it was my Collie, and then making up stories to perpetuate it. That would require someone who has a lot of time on her hands and a not too stable mind as far as I'm concerned. I kind of figure if you are going to pretend at least pretend to be a brain surgeon. Laughing here.

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What she said! PMSL here. Why would anybody pretend to be what they aren't? That would take REAL talent! It would be more profitable to be a con-artist in the real world.

Gillian

 

[otch1]

Cindr, this makes me sad. I am who I say I am and do exactly as I've stated, for a living. I love my work and have no need to make up stories about it. If I were going to pretend to be someone I'm not on an internet site, Toscas mom's right, I'd pretend to be someone much more glamorous than one in the dog business. (Especially considering I just spent 30 minutes scooping poop and hosing.) So, I do not understand why your motives here in being dishonest. But I just connected the dots, yours and chickenlittles, the posts that follow each other and who each of you is. I'm hoping you'll make this right. I'm sure you know what that means. If not, I can't post with you anymore, as I don't feel we'd "play well" together. Take care.